300 for a CBJ???

[atxdream]

Please keep this discussion on topic and hate-free.

Perhaps I'm playing with fire; however, there was a topic brought up in a review that I think should be in a forum where the providers can chime in. I don't know the lady in question and have never had any contact with her, but with 42 excellent reviews, I'm confused why anyone would think it's ok to "sully" her review with off topic complaints about price vs. service.

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=431513

One thing that really bothers me during these discussions is the argument that it's "not personal it's simply economics". If that were the case, then every single one of you would find a hot SW with a full menu and be happy or even better reintroduce yourself to Rosie and keep a full wallet. When you are talking about the hobby... it is ALWAYS personal to the lady. She is not selling you a car (let's get away from the meat comparisons), she is selling you herself. That package includes her looks, attitude, discretion, TCB, AND services.

I am not saying that every guy will want to see every girl. They are right to pick ladies that match the total package they desire. However, to make the assumption (read the comments in the review) that for every girl that charges 500; they can find 4 equal ladies that only charge 120.... that is soooo far off the mark that it literally makes me sick (and it takes a LOT to get me upset). I can name one major reason why that's off the mark. The girl that charges 120 has to work at least 4 times (well if you read my experiment you'll know it's more like 30 times as hard) to make the same amount. http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=373658

I think that most providers and hobbyists agree that a lady can put herself at whatever price point/services that brings her the amount of biz she desires... BUT don't EVER say that not seeing a lady isn't personal... because IMHO how you pick a lady is the definition of personal. Think of the reasons why you wouldn't see a lady.. She charges... She doesn't offer... Her attitude... Her body... That's not personal? Myself and a lot of other ladies on this board have pretty tough skin; but, most women wear their hearts on their sleeve. It's part of why you love them so much. There are a handful of guys in SA that are determined to beat these girls prices down and services up. I'm calling all the white knighters out there to start sticking up for them and push these guys back to picking up SWs. I promise you, these handful of outsiders are affecting the hobby as a whole in SA and NOT in a good way. Outsiders? Absolutely, bc many of them aren't seeing the ladies on the board, they are just wreaking havoc.

I love my SA friends and there are MANY great gents in this city's board; but for those that don't venture into other areas, I'm here to tell you that when ladies are treated as princesses as a whole, they will treat you like a king.

Please don't assume that I'm saying every provider should raise their prices (though many on here are well worth more than they charge); however, if anyone wants to really know the difference - talk to some the gents on here that chase after the HDH group and they will tell you how the "other side" lives. I understand that most people's budgets don't allow them to see the HDHs; however, from what I've heard we are lucky to have the provider in question still below that range.

[Guest100314]

What does Rosie have to do with this? Nice of you to throw her under the bus!!!

[Laz]

I read through the thread you are refering to and understand your concern. I do agree that I have seen many reviews with comments about what the provider charged. I do belive that a hobbyist should take price and service into consideration when making their decisions on who to see. However, comments about what another hobbyist agreed to pay or what a provider charges can be rude and to be blunt none of your business. If the hobbyist is happy with what they got it is none of my business as to whether they paid too much. If the provider is getting the business she wants then I have no right to say she is overpriced or the service is inadequate. As one of the income challenged hobbyists I do take those things into consideration. I am just happy there are plenty of wonderful providers that I can see with services that make me happy.

The flip side to this argument is that this is an information exchange and the hobbyists can give each other information even about where to get the best value of price to service. The question becomes how to do that without being offensive.

[Guest100116]

So if a guy goes and gets a $300 hj we should just congratulate him and tell him good job?

[atxdream]

Originally Posted by playIVkeeps

What does Rosie have to do with this? Nice of you to throw her under the bus!!!

Rosie Palm and her five friends. I wasnt referring to a provider.

[atxdream]

Originally Posted by Laz

The flip side to this argument is that this is an information exchange and the hobbyists can give each other information even about where to get the best value of price to service. The question becomes how to do that without being offensive.

Laz, your contribution to the conversation is well stated as always. My thoughts are that the review itself takes care of that. The hobbyist states how much he paid and I assume ROS gives you an idea of whether he thought it was worth the donation. It bothers me when someone who has never seen the lady declares "she's not worth that".

Originally Posted by cctex

So if a guy goes and gets a $300 hj we should just congratulate him and tell him good job?

If he felt the service was worth the donation, why not be happy that he had a good time and can afford that rate? If you've never had a 300 hj from her, who are you to say it wasnt worth it?

[GTDak]

To each is own. Nobody's business if I like girl #1 and I'm willing to pay X for what she offers.

I take the ROS part of the review as a guide. YMMV. I know its simply not possible for someone's ROS to be the same experience I'm going to receive.

[BoomShakaLaka]

Originally Posted by GTDak

To each is own. Nobody's business if I like girl #1 and I'm willing to pay X for what she offers.

I take the ROS part of the review as a guide. YMMV. I know its simply not possible for someone's ROS to be the same experience I'm going to receive.

X 11ty billion


I have putout more than some would have for the same girl -- but I really enjoyed my time with her and felt it worth while -- I personally wouldnt go 300 for a CBJ -- I dont like them -- period -- not that I would think she isnt a beautiful girl with amazing personality and everything else in place -- but thats a deal breaker for me

[lasvegas]

i would concur 100% and i say this with respect... but i dont subscribe to the point of view that this personal... because if it was personal then money ie....a transaction would not take place... i think that when it is taken personally, then thats when "feelings" get hurt... i think its pretty well known that i've been on the shitty end of the stick, you have to keep it business like!!! but there is nothing wrong with having fun while doing it... if your not having fun or getting mad... then probably shouldnt hobby... not being sarcastic , just saying this isnt a place to get so mad. this is fantasy and fun... plus there are a whole bunch of providers coming in from dallas this week... a BUYERS market!!!!

[Guest101618]

Each companion has to find her own niche in this world. None will ever be a perfect fit for every guy who comes along. I suspect one of the more difficult parts of being a companion is dealing with comments in person or on the boards that convey anything less than praise. Sometimes the comments are definitely rude, other times they aren't yet a woman without a strong sense of self worth may get hurt. I hear guys talk about economics and things like supply and demand, but in my opinion a lot of that is misdirection.

I have a hard time stepping up to the plate at three bills an hour, regardless of the provider. But I have paid three bills and more for multiple hours or in one case a fine companion that didn't own a clock and just wanted to have a hell of a good time until we were both used up.

On the subject of CBJ vs BBBJ, I have experienced good and bad with both. However, it is important to note that bad is a relative term. If a pretty lady is playing with my cock, how bad can it really be? Back on topic, The only CBJ I've had was arguably better than many of the BBBJ's I've received. I did not anticipate the CBJ when booking, but after the fact it didn't really change my opinion of the visit. I'm assuming the companion knew how to compensate for the condom because it was awesome. And no, I wasn't distracted by her beauty or anything else. She was attractive, but not stunning.

I have found companions that make me happy at the compensation level I am comfortable with. I do occasionally consider taking a leap of faith and scheduling with someone who is outside that comfort zone, but I haven't done it in a while. My early experiences did not show a correlation between dollars spent and my enjoyment, and this is really about my enjoyment when I am footing the bill. From reviews and other research I have developed a list of companions that I suspect may ramp up my enjoyment level for the extra compensation. They are at the top of my list in competition for my attention with companions I have already met and who "rock my world". The key word there was "attention". I'm a guy, I have a limited amount of it.

So in summary, it's not that I apply an economic analysis to my decision making, but rather I go with what works for me. I know for a fact others have different needs and that is perfectly cool. It would be a real pisser if we were all fighting over the same hottie, week in and week out. Guys have a lot of different reasons why she is the perfect fantasy, and the next isn't. Often they make no sense to me, but I'm not walking a mile in their condom, I mean shoes.

[Mokoa]

As I have stated before...

The ladies have the unalienable right to set their rates as they see fit.
The gentlemen have the unalienable right to choose who they wish to see.

There is really nothing else to it.

I have never understood why the hemoraging always occurs when rates are discussed. It changes nothing. It is wasted effort. It is an exercise in futility.

[The White Queen]

Originally Posted by Mokoa

The ladies have the unalienable right to set their rates as they see fit. The gentlemen have the unalienable right to choose who they wish to see. There is really nothing else to it.

Thank you...and...The End.

[pickupkid]

If a woman thinks can get 300 hour for cbj ...more power to her ,,but she not getting any of my money.

[Guest061613]

I would pay your rate any day. You are a classy woman darling and I love you for it.

[Laz]

Originally Posted by pickupkid

If a woman thinks can get 300 hour for cbj ...more power to her ,,but she not getting any of my money.

I think the whole point of this is that what you are willing to do is fine. What comes across as rude is a comment like that in a review where the person paying her fee was satisfied. You are impacting or trying to impact her business which is inappropriate and none of your business since you are not the one paying her fee.

If you want to start a thread about what a CBJ is worth go for it. Just do not tie it to a providers review.