Has anyone else noticed rates going up?

[Guest071613-2]

Originally Posted by bigdog0311

Their full potential? You mean see how much they can get guys to pay for?

Yes. We are on the same site, I hope? LOL! We all have our own interests, here. Unless you actually believe providers are here for the shits n' giggles.

What I am talking about sustained business is very simple but I guess I will explain to you Dannie............

Thancks for breaking it down for me. My wittle bwain can hawdwy take big words....or run on sentences. But I will let the following, slide:

Most guys that are hobbyists are not millionaires, so they want to get great service at a great price, and that is with anything, not just the hobby. For the sake of argument, lets say you would charge $200/hr for your outstanding service, keep in mind that you love what you do and you like the "satisfaction" as well. Hobbyist A comes to see you weekly at that rate, of course you will have many more see you as you are so "rockin" in the bedroom, but focusing on Hobbyist A, you decide that because you want to realize your "full potential" and deserve more money per session hour, you explain that you have raised your prices to $600/hr. Well Hobbyist A says he will not be able to see you weekly any longer and I am sure many other lists you have fallen off of as well, but there are a few guys that will see you at that rate you are seeking, it is not because they do not want to see you, it is because they cannot afford to see you, as we all have bills and are on budgets. So you look at your weekly totals of when you were charging 200 and when you were charging 600 and determined that the weeks you were 200/hr, you made 3000/week on average, when you were charging 600/hr, you made 2400/week as you could only get 4 guys to see you at that price on an average week. If you like what you like providing and are really rockin in the bedroom, I guess you are not too happy seeing fewer guys and you are not happy marketing wise cuz you are making less money as well. Did you realize your full potential?

That's not really how it works. What happens is, I lose all of my hobbyist "A's" and replace em with a totally new clientele. We can still be friends, though!
I don't want to see lots of guys, and it is worth it to most ladies who charge more, to see fewer men at what works out to be the same amount of money (if not more) each week. I used to charge less than $100 an hour when I first started on hooker boards. What I speak of is from experience...not sure where you are getting your experience other than from your own standpoint, which isnt representative of the hobby as a whole. We can charge whatever we want and make more than we did before, without having to take six showers a day. Bottom line. Sorry if it doesn't work in your favor with each lady you might want to see, but by your own admission, there are thousands to choose from. So maybe less bitterness is in order?

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[TexasCowboy]

$500 an hour is out of the question on 99.9% of the visits a man would have the pleasure of making....Lets say 20 minutes chit chat....that leave 25 minutes of getting very very busy, the other 15 minutes of cleaning up....So now it gets down to 25 minutes for $500....What happens if it is a lame session...The fellow is kicking himself for being so stupid...Hope to God there is no tip expected.....

Look at the other side of the coin....Another woman and most want between $200 $300 an hour....Treat them right and leave a tip and the bed will be shaking 30 minutes after both of you get out of it......

TexasCowboy

[bigdog0311]

Originally Posted by TexasCowboy

$500 an hour is out of the question on 99.9% of the visits a man would have the pleasure of making....Lets say 20 minutes chit chat....that leave 25 minutes of getting very very busy, the other 15 minutes of cleaning up....So now it gets down to 25 minutes for $500....What happens if it is a lame session...The fellow is kicking himself for being so stupid...Hope to God there is no tip expected.....

Look at the other side of the coin....Another woman and most want between $200 $300 an hour....Treat them right and leave a tip and the bed will be shaking 30 minutes after both of you get out of it......

TexasCowboy

Exactly my point.....maybe, Dannie, you need to go get those other clientele you seem to want and just be our friend. Sorry to be so lame!

[The Proper Stranger]

Any lady can set her price at whatever she wants, and any gent can shop in whatever price range he wants, and it's no use trying to convince either side they're wrong... because they generally aren't.

Dallas is a great venue for both sides. Yes, there are a lot of providers to choose from, which keeps the average rates for quality at the levels we guys know and love. There's also a large client base that can support not only the usual range we see here, but also higher or lower. Dallas probably isn't the ideal HDH market, but it's definitely not a bad one.

And Dannie is right, a girl of any size/shape/age/looks can charge a higher rate and sustain it. It's not just a matter of "oh, you're in Dallas, so no way you can pull off $500/hr when everyone else is charging half that." In order to sustain the rate, the provider does need to do, be, or have something more than the rest of the field. Now that can be a higher perceived quality (better looking, better service), offering something that's uncommon (catering to rarer menu offerings), a sense of exclusivity (rarely sees anyone new, providing the allure of making the list), or just good ole fashioned marketing (you can even make the high price a selling point).

It would take some combination of skill, knowledge, hard work, and invested time to pull it off. A lady can't triple her price overnight without changing how she does business or putting in some serious extra effort and expect it to work out perfectly. Not everyone's willing to put forth the effort, or talented enough to pull it off, but if she is, the rest really doesn't matter that much as to how much she can sustainably charge. Though it does matter for how much work she has to put into selling herself: a provider who just went ballistic on the boards might need a few years to rehab her image, or one who's not everyone's type might need to spend more time digging for the right clientele, or she might need to study up on marketing strategies and experiment for a while to find a good fit.

All that said, I stick close to the 250-300 range, which works best for me as a customer. I get the value for my dollar that I want. But just because I'm not the market (and most guys here aren't) doesn't mean there's not a market.

[harley3535]

I have increased my donation {a little} not really enough to make or break the deal... However with the cost of the hotels going up as well as gas, as a provider I have no choice but to increase as the economy increases,,,,, sorry gents....

[bigdog0311]

Originally Posted by harley3535

I have increased my donation {a little} not really enough to make or break the deal... However with the cost of the hotels going up as well as gas, as a provider I have no choice but to increase as the economy increases,,,,, sorry gents....

I understand that as the bad economy and the cost of food, gas, ect. going up, of course, those costs are also increasing for the guys, especially when we are in the mid cities and you are all the way in northeast Dallas and we go to your incall.

But to double or triple your rates as some girls have done is just ridiculous, but as I said before, if you can get a guy to pay that, more power to you. I personally would not pay $600/hr and MAYBE get a few more moans of my name or one or two more eye contacts and/or smiles as opposed to paying $250-300/hr and having the same goal reached seeing both providers, and having that extra money to pay for the monthly bills that have gone up on my end. No right or wrong or bitterness here, but just an observation.

[Guest082216-1]

:roflma o:
MAX!! Lisa.Lisa! Ze! Where are you ladies? I know how much you love these threads!!! OP, sorry man. I know this was not your intent when you opened the thread. I tried to warn you but too late!!

Its been awhile since we had one of these. Dannie, Your wasting your breath on some of these guys. Not everyone but you know who I mean). A new guy I can understand thinking he is being insightfull and trying to be helpfull. Or, just wondering. I did when I was a newbe here.

The sad thing is some of the comments by guys are actualy valid on the face of it. But, some say it in such a condensinding, I know more than you way. And, they totaly do not get that there are powerfull factors beyond market dynamics in play. Supply/demand is a factor in the hobby but not the only one.

Ladies, how dare you not fall over and offer free sex to some of these guys. They know more than you do. Your just stupid hookers. (And no, no one actualy said that, but they sure make it sound like that. Don't they?)

I am trained as a socialogist (Masters Degree) so I am very interested in this stuff. But I have been learned a thing or two by you fine ladies.

Good luck to all you ladies. Those who may be beyond my budget, may I at least still lust over you and compliment you? Just in case I happen to decide to change my price criteria? The rest of you that fit my budget, I will see as many of you as I can when I can.

Now I will just sit back and enjoy the carnage.

[Juan Pablo de Marco]

Originally Posted by bigdog0311

Sorry to be so lame!

being lame never stopped you from posting before...all day long. and i'm sure it won't stop you now. who wants to bet bigdog isn't done 'schooling' the girls how to run their business yet?

[Guest082216-1]

[Guest091914]

My opinion is you get what you pay for

[johnnylongcaulking]

Originally Posted by Bubba3452

I am trained as a socialogist (Masters Degree) so I am very interested in this stuff.

Apparently learning how to spell Sociology/Sociologist wasn't a pre-requisite for obtaining your Master's Degree in the field. Or maybe you were imbibing some social lubricants shortly before crafting this fine display of artfully placed Smilies.

[Guest100513-2]

I tried giving a shit what others do with their money but it didn't work out.

[Guest082216-1]

No, its this damn cursed keyboard. It seldom outputs what I input.

Originally Posted by johnnylongcaulking

Apparently learning how to spell Sociology/Sociologist wasn't a pre-requisite for obtaining your Master's Degree in the field. Or maybe you were imbibing some social lubricants shortly before crafting this fine display of artfully placed Smilies.

[Torito]

This thread seems to have run it's course. It is not following the original question of "Have anyone noticed". It has become defending or opposing. If anyone wants to continue that line, please open a new thread with that subject.

Torito

[administrator]

Reopening this thread. Keep it civil please, and keep it on topic.

Thanks all,

St. C