Dick Cheney gets a heart transplant

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by CJ7

the government runs the VA hospitals, the vets have a high praise for them best I can tell .. very little mentioned about deaths from foreign infections at VA's ...

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[CJ7]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

That's always the problem with government agencies; they have inflated costs for administration. Thats partly why private schools can do a better job for about half the cost; they have drastically lower administrative costs. Plus the teacher's Unions haven't ruined the private schools (yet).

Although Steven Jobs was a leftie, he was passionate about privatizing our education system by providing vouchers. He hated the teachers unions.

its a god damn good thing the public sector hasnt inflated the cost of private healthcare with $10M CEO salaries isnt it joe .. which is the subject, not education


even though youre getting one right now.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by CJ7

its a god damn good thing the public sector hasnt inflated the cost of private healthcare with $10M CEO salaries isnt it joe .. which is the subject, not education


even though youre getting one right now.

You're incapable of teaching me anything because you don't know anything. All you do is spout knee jerk socialist talking points. You liberals seem to be determined to destroy the country. Europe is melting down because of the same socialist progams you guys are peddling.

[CJ7]

Im not a liberal, apparently youre a slow learner since Ive told you that several times

I digress

If you want your premiums to pay for $10M CEO salaries so they can live at Ponte Vedra Beach in multi milion dollar mansions, park their wives in elite country clubs, buy their kids Mercedes, pay for expensive Television commercials, and pay outside sources to check hospital bills to make sure Dr's didnt gouge the shit out of the ins company, who am I to argue.

Stupidity cant be taught, and apparently the truth carries no weight.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by CJ7

Im not a liberal, apparently youre a slow learner since Ive told you that several times

I digress

If you want your premiums to pay for $10M CEO salaries so they can live at Ponte Vedra Beach in multi milion dollar mansions, park their wives in elite country clubs, buy their kids Mercedes, pay for expensive Television commercials, and pay outside sources to check hospital bills to make sure Dr's didnt gouge the shit out of the ins company, who am I to argue.

Stupidity cant be taught, and apparently the truth carries no weight.

Critics charge that one of the big problems facing the VA is that too much money goes toward administration, at the cost of nursing and patient care.

Dean Billik, the former director of the VA in Charleston, S.C., is brought up as an example.

In 1996, he was denounced for allegedly spending about $200,000 in taxpayer money to redecorate his office; $1.5 million to renovate a nursing home unit that stayed empty for two years; and tens of thousands of dollars for a fish tank in the lobby — while there were budget shortfalls and staff cutbacks were contemplated.

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/stor...2#.T298I9lnC-A

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by CJ7

Im not a liberal, apparently youre a slow learner since Ive told you that several times

I digress

If you want your premiums to pay for $10M CEO salaries so they can live at Ponte Vedra Beach in multi milion dollar mansions, park their wives in elite country clubs, buy their kids Mercedes, pay for expensive Television commercials, and pay outside sources to check hospital bills to make sure Dr's didnt gouge the shit out of the ins company, who am I to argue.

Stupidity cant be taught, and apparently the truth carries no weight.

You're a liberal. I'm a conservative and as far as I can tell you disagree with everything I believe. I'm pretty sure that makes you a liberal.

Sam Walton amassed the largest personal fortune the history of the world by providing merchandise at extremely affordable prices. Having high paid people at the top doesn't necessarily mean that the product or service you're selling has to be overpriced. Your "reasoning" is simplistic.

[CJ7]

pardon me IB, having paid little or no attention to your quotes that range from 1996 to almost a decade ago, this is 2012.

youre only impressing yourself


the link I provided mentioned 20 VA centers as top of the sector, and was from 2011.

Hospitals, like everything else are good, and bad

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

You're a liberal.

thats like calling Bush a Texan

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by CJ7

thats like calling Bush a Texan

Has your brain finally short circuited? Is there smoke coming out of your ears? You're making my argument for me.

Yes calling you a liberal is EXACTLY like calling Bush a Texan because Bush IS a Texan and you ARE a liberal. So now you're agreeing with me.

Have you completely lost your mind?

[CJ7]

Bush was born in Texas?


and youre asking me if Ive lost my mind?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

You're incapable of teaching me anything because you don't know anything. All you do is spout knee jerk socialist talking points. You liberals seem to be determined to destroy the country. Europe is melting down because of the same socialist progams you guys are peddling.

Is Germany melting down?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

because Bush IS a Texan

He is a Half ass Texan, anybody that goes to private school and does not attend a Texas College is a half ass Texan at best.



George Walker Bush was born in New Haven, Connecticut at Grace-New Haven Hospital (now Yale – New Haven Hospital), on July 6, 1946,[15] the first child of George H. W. Bush and Barbara Bush (née Pierce). He was raised in Midland and Houston, Texas, with four siblings, Jeb, Neil, Marvin and Dorothy. Another younger sister, Robin, died from leukemia at the age of three in 1953.[16] Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was a U.S. Senator from Connecticut.[17] Bush's father, George H. W. Bush, was Vice President from 1981 to 1989 and President from 1989 to 1993. Bush is of primarily English descent and also more distant German, Dutch, Welsh, Irish, French, and Scottish ancestry.[18]
Education

Bush attended public schools in Midland, Texas until the family moved to Houston after he completed seventh grade. He then went to The Kinkaid School, a prep school in Houston, for two years.[19]
Bush finished high school at Phillips Academy, a boarding school (then all-male) in Andover, Massachusetts, where he played baseball and during his senior year was the head cheerleader.[20][21] Bush attended Yale University from 1964 to 1968, graduating with an A.B. in history.[22] During this time, he was a member of Delta Kappa Epsilon, being elected the fraternity's president during his senior year.[23][24] Bush also became a member of the Skull and Bones society as a senior.[25] Bush was a keen rugby union player and was on Yale's 1st XV.[26] He characterized himself as an average student.[27] His average during his first three years at Yale was 77 and he had a similar average under a nonnumeric rating system in his final year.[28]

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by CJ7

pardon me IB, having paid little or no attention to your quotes that range from 1996 to almost a decade ago, this is 2012.

youre only impressing yourself


the link I provided mentioned 20 VA centers as top of the sector, and was from 2011.

2007
Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army's Top Medical Facility http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/17/AR2007021701172.html

2009
VA: 5th HIV case linked to unsterile equipment
Nearly 11,000 former sailors, soldiers, airmen and Marines could have been exposed at the hospitals in Miami, Murfreesboro, Tenn., and Augusta, Ga.
http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/sh...rile-equipment

2010
VA hospital may have infected 1,800 veterans with HIV
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-06-30/u...ental?_s=PM:US

2011
VA hospital cancels surgeries after discovery of dirty tools
http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/stor...#ixzz1qAAKFrUy

2011 (four months ago)
Veterans face long waits for medical care
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...s-medical-care

[CJ7]

only 14% out of 3000 public hospitals made good grades ...

86% sucked

paying premium prices for suck ass hospitals must be a republican thang


funny thing, the right bitches about paying too much for everything but insurance and a few other corporate based services / government expenses that fleece them of their $$

[chicagoboy]

Originally Posted by CJ7

only 14% out of 3000 public hospitals made good grades ...

86% sucked

So, let's make sure that 100% of hospitals are public hospitals.

I hope the transplant works out for Cheney.