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02-20-2012, 04:59 PM
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And your answer to his question was........................... .
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I don't see where Mr. Doove asked a question. Go ahead, ask away. Still, it's funny to hear him demand intellectual honesty. C'mon. Doove? Intellectual honesty? THAT'S funny!
BTW, why should the Catholics, or anyone else for that matter, pay for someone else's contraception? If you want to dance, you need to pay the piper. It's not my responsibility to subsidize someone else's bareback activities.
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02-20-2012, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
I don't see where Mr. Doove asked a question. Go ahead, ask away. Still, it's funny to hear him demand intellectual honesty. C'mon. Doove? Intellectual honesty? THAT'S funny!
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Yeah, because you can quote all the times i've argued opposing stances that were dependent on the issue.
Your line was kind of blah the first time you used it - but then again, repeating yourself does seem to be standard operating procedure.
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BTW, why should the Catholics, or anyone else for that matter, pay for someone else's contraception? If you want to dance, you need to pay the piper. It's not my responsibility to subsidize someone else's bareback activities.
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Spoken like either a true male chauvinist pig, or someone who has no clue how the concept of group insurance works. Or both.
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02-20-2012, 05:15 PM
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Ok, explain it to me then. Why should I or anyone else pay for someone else's contraception? I'm looking to you for wisdom and knowledge, oh Sage Doove. Enlighten me.
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02-20-2012, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Doove
Spoken like either a true male chauvinist pig, or someone who has no clue how the concept of group insurance works. Or both.
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Spoken like a true, liberal twit - someone who has no concept of personal responsibility.
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02-20-2012, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Doove
someone who has no clue how the concept of group insurance works. Or both.
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I have a very good understanding of how group insurance works. I have a similar question. Why should a routine modest expense like contraceptives be covered by insurance?
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02-21-2012, 01:42 AM
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Doove, you can go here and hear O'Donnell do it himself.
http://www.breitbart.tv/odonnell-sma...ception-claim/
As for group insurance; why be forced to pay for contraception when you are celibate, married, sterile, or too old to care? Why is Obama forcing us into one size fits all?
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02-21-2012, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
What Obama tried to do is to order a religion (in this case Catholism) to ignore the directives of their faith.
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No, you are wrong, JD.
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Originally Posted by CJ7
The healthcare bill mandates people have insurance .. birth control is part of the bill. The bill DOES NOT MANDATE PEOPLE USE BIRTH CONTROL. PERIOD.
If it does maybe one of you really SMART guys can quote the section and article in the bill that says it does. I''ll wait
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Yes, you are right, CJ7.
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What you appear not to understand is that Catholics are not only required by their faith not to use contraceptives. They are also required by their faith NOT TO PAY FOR THEM FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S USE.
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No, you are wrong, Sidewinder. (1) Quote me chapter and verse in the scriptures. (2) Your argument is no more applicable than childless couples paying school taxes or Christian Scientists who are members of mandatory auto insurance pools that pay for "PIP" (personal injury protection) or medical treatment or medications for others the Christian Scientist may injure.
God, I thought I.B. was dumb so I put him on ignore and there looks to be half a dozen or more on the backup squad.
It just proves Fox "News" has dumbed down more people than we originally thought.
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02-21-2012, 12:51 PM
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No, you are wrong, JD.
Yes, you are right, CJ7.
No, you are wrong, Sidewinder. (1) Quote me chapter and verse in the scriptures. (2) Your argument is no more applicable than childless couples paying school taxes or Christian Scientists who are members of mandatory auto insurance pools that pay for "PIP" (personal injury protection) or medical treatment or medications for others the Christian Scientist may injure.
God, I thought I.B. was dumb so I put him on ignore and there looks to be half a dozen or more on the backup squad.
It just proves Fox "News" has dumbed down more people than we originally thought.
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Fascinating you should mention Christian Scientists. They too are fighting against Obamacare for NOT “respecting the rights of all faiths.” http://members.christianscience.com/...h-care-reform/
Your choice to press the ‘ignore’ button – if in fact you are not now lying – had much more to do with the fact that you were tired of having your ass handed to you in arguments you time and again lost due to your inferior intellect and the woeful absence of pertinent facts to substantiate your position. BTW, Colbert is not a journalist; you really need to get your news elsewhere.
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02-21-2012, 01:09 PM
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yet nobody can provide the section/article in the law that mandates cathoilcs use rubbers
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02-21-2012, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ7
yet nobody can provide the section/article in the law that mandates cathoilcs use rubbers
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EXACTLY, CJ7!
Life is good. I see where I.B. posts but since he is on ignore, I don't have to follow the rabbit hole his mind travels!
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02-21-2012, 01:55 PM
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yet nobody can provide the section/article in the law that mandates cathoilcs use rubbers
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Obama did! He admitted to and acknowledged the encroachment when he offered his bogus 'compromise'.
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I see where I.B. posts but since he is on ignore, I don't have to follow the rabbit hole his mind travels!
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You are wrong Little Blind Boy. You will always 'follow' because you lack the mental acuity to keep up.
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02-21-2012, 02:15 PM
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yet nobody can provide the section/article in the law that mandates cathoilcs use rubbers
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What a stupid argument. You know the objection is to paying for something that violates their faith. Quit being an idiot and address the issue.
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02-21-2012, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
What a stupid argument. You know the objection is to paying for something that violates their faith. Quit being an idiot and address the issue.
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Ok, Fine ... lets just say the healthcare law FORCES BC on catholics et al
Catholics, et al DO NOT HAVE TO BUY INSURANCE! Nobody is forcing them buy jackshit. catholics that are bound to their religion should simply pay a fine and refuse insurance THEY HAVE A CHOICE.
UNLIKE THE ALTERBOYS WHO DEAL WITH CATHOLICS WHO ARENT EXACTLY BOUND TO THEIR RELIGION
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02-21-2012, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ7
Ok, Fine ... lets just say the healthcare law FORCES BC on catholics et al
Catholics, et al DO NOT HAVE TO BUY INSURANCE! Nobody is forcing them buy jackshit. catholics that are bound to their religion should simply pay a fine and refuse insurance THEY HAVE A CHOICE.
UNLIKE THE ALTERBOYS WHO DEAL WITH CATHOLICS WHO ARENT EXACTLY BOUND TO THEIR RELIGION
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Obama has already admitted that Obamacare violates 1st Amendment rights, but you won't?
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02-21-2012, 02:45 PM
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The Kool Aid drunks, CJ7 et al., remain willfully blind
“Putting the obligation on the insurer and not the employer doesn’t help much if they are the same person.”
[T]he administration announced the compromise plan before it had figured out how to address one conspicuous point: Like most large employers, many religiously affiliated organizations choose to insure themselves rather than hire an outside company to assume the risk.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/16/business/self-insured-complicate-health-deal.html?_r=1
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