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alterego1 · 02-09-2012, 12:19 AM

I was wandering the casino tonight when a drop dead gorgeous young lady asked me if I wanted to party in my hotel room. Is this common in Vegas? How much would one expect to pay for something like this? I am rather new to the hobby. Thanks.

Casey-Lee · 02-09-2012, 12:31 AM

Be very very careful. She may tell you one price and then up-sell you from there. Lots of rip-off girls around!!!!

alterego1 · 02-09-2012, 12:49 AM

Thanks Casey. It seemed TGTBT! Maybe we should spend some time together so you can provide more advice.

MickeyxDoll · 02-09-2012, 01:09 AM

Like Casey said be very careful.
But it is common for girls to approach and ask to party.
You never know if its a sting waiting to happen.
Be safe here luvie and have fun.

simpleton · 02-09-2012, 10:38 PM

Be careful could be a legit girl. Or you might find yourself with a court date or being ripped off. Stay with the sure thing and visit a lady from eccie. Less stress and more enjoyment. Why risk it?

quzi · 02-10-2012, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by alterego1

I was wandering the casino tonight when a drop dead gorgeous young lady asked me if I wanted to party in my hotel room. Is this common in Vegas? How much would one expect to pay for something like this?

Depending on the time of day/night, it's happens. The way you have to look at it is that they are Vegas' version of a streetwalker. They take care of themselves better here but they are effectively streetwalkers in a casino/bar/nightclub or going between places along the strip. As they are a bit classier than streetwalkers, they tend to charge more. The lookers like the one you ran into would probably want $1k just to walk into your room. Or she could want $200 and then ask for $2000 when she has your dick in her hand. For a CBJ (she'll want another $5k for full service). Or she could be one of those that plain rips you off (grabs your watch and wallet, laptop if it's there, while you're in the bathroom). Maybe she has a taser or gun and just robs you. Or she could be vice and arrests you. A very tiny percentage of them will be GFE. For a reasonable price (maybe $500). Some guys get off on the thrill of the chase. If I'm dropping half a grand, I'd rather get a sure thing.

Guest072915 · 04-23-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alterego1

I was wandering the casino tonight when a drop dead gorgeous young lady asked me if I wanted to party in my hotel room. Is this common in Vegas? How much would one expect to pay for something like this? I am rather new to the hobby. Thanks.

While I prefer the safety of well-reviewed indys, I have gone for a casino girl ("CG") on occasion. I do not believe there's any risk of legal consequences. I've never heard of Vegas running a sting operation inside; and the casino isn't going to call security/the cops on the john, because then they're losing a customer (and potentially a hotel guest.)

They will, plenty of times, kick the girls out and/or bar them at the door. The various properties in Vegas seem to go through cycles, some more tolerant of CG activity than others at various times.

It's very common. If you're a man in Vegas, alone, between the hours of say 10PM and 4AM, you're likely to get approached. Especially if you're playing at a quiet bar VP machine or a quiet slot machine. If you're looking for CGs, you can start by making eye contact and smiling at a pretty girl sitting by herself. If she looks away or gives you a dirty look, she's a civilian. If she smiles back, she's a CG.

You'll often see CGs sitting at penny slots, where they have a good view of the elevator and/or a main corridor. They also play the machine very slowly (if at all).

The trick is to negotiate prices before you take her to your room, and make sure your other cash/valuables are not accessible. She'll likely quote some outrageous figure to start (especially at a higher-end property like Wynn) but most will negotiate, especially as the night wears on. You should be able, most nights, to find a decent girl for $$-$$$.

Is there more of a risk of getting ripped off than with a well-reviewed indy? Probably, though if you're smart about it you can mitigate that risk. One of the things that's better about the CG is that you can (obviously) see exactly what she looks like. There's no worries that the pictures in the CL or BP ad are four years old and won't match the girl who knocks on your door. So that's a plus.

If you're a good bargainer, especially at the end of the night and mid-week, you can probably get the same service for less money than if you went the indy route. Probably.

Different strokes for different folks; and I certainly understand why the girls who advertise here would prefer that we not partake of the CGs! The risk of a rip-off or upsell is legit; negotiate firmly before you take her to your room, make sure you're both clear on the costs and the services.

As I said above, the risks of legal consequences for the hobbyist are almost non-existent. If someone has documented proof of hobbyists being busted on a casino floor, I've never seen it.

asianalice · 04-24-2012, 10:51 AM

It is becoming more common now that LEO do stings on the casino floor. I had a friend (female) get approached by a couple of leo, she pretended not to speak english and ignored them, next thing, the flashed badges and made her go with them, checked i.d. and asked questions for long time. while she was with them, tall blonde leo brought in 2 guys. She was pretty and young according to her. Be very carefull boys and girls, they are getting very aggressive

simpleton · 04-24-2012, 09:19 PM

I would disregard that post by hobbyeric. They do in fact run stings in Casinos. People do in fact get arrested. Anyone that says otherwise is naive, foolish, or dishonest. The casinos don't want a bunch of hookers walking around the casino. They have an obligation to protect their guest for harm and theft. And since they can't tell which chicks are there to do harm they don't want any of them. Let's not forget those chicks are committing a crime and the casinos don't want it throw in their face so to speak.

simpleton · 04-24-2012, 09:25 PM

It's never a good idea to talk money and sex act together. And what are you going to do if the chick agrees to $300 on the casino floor but once she gets into your room and gets the money and gets you naked then wants $200 more. Are you willing to cause a shit storm in your room where security and the police come? Will you pay her more money? Or let her walk out with $300 she did nothing for. Why risk it...

Guest072915 · 04-25-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by simpleton

I would disregard that post by hobbyeric. They do in fact run stings in Casinos. People do in fact get arrested. Anyone that says otherwise is naive, foolish, or dishonest. The casinos don't want a bunch of hookers walking around the casino. They have an obligation to protect their guest for harm and theft. And since they can't tell which chicks are there to do harm they don't want any of them. Let's not forget those chicks are committing a crime and the casinos don't want it throw in their face so to speak.

Again, it's the girls who have the legal risk here, not the johns. The casinos, most times, simply don't care unless the people are making a scene. If they bust the john, how likely is it that he'll ever stay at or gamble at that property again in his life? Not at all likely.

If there is a Las Vegas R-J (or other source) article about men being prosecuted for solicitation on a casino floor, please include a link. I simply don't believe it until I see the proof. Note that I didn't say NO ONE ever gets arrested -- I just don't believe the guys do.

And to your other point, if the girl gets up to your room and demands more money, you call security. Plain and simple. She says "he offered to pay me for sex," you say "she offered to fuck me for free, we just met downstairs." Your word against hers; and since you're the hotel guest, when you say "I'd like her to leave now," they'll take her away.

Again, I see why indys would prefer we guys don't see CGs. And in general, I don't very often. But it's somewhere between a streetwalker and a reviewed escort, IMHO. And unlike picking up SWs, there is very little risk to the guy.

Keep in mind, the casinos care about one thing, and one thing only: making money. They will always act in the manner which brings them the most profit. So if they believe the hookers are being disruptive, they'll kick them out. If they believe they are being free entertainment at the bar, possibly keeping the customers happy, most times, they'll let it go. They are not the morality (or any other kind of) police.

But kicking out a male customer or guest, and/or calling the cops on him, virtually guarantees that they will never see another penny out of his pocket. And that's the worst possible outcome, in their minds.

Wm2slc · 04-25-2012, 06:44 PM

OK, my 2 cents.
I've been hobbying for about 13 years now. I started with indy's and have had my best luck with indies. I do have a couple of things to add to this conversation though.
I've tried the CWs a couple of times, once we talked, got up to the room and then it was... "well, for this it will be this much more and for that would be that much more. I said full service and you will get serviced, but how I want to for what you offered." Well as you can see, not a good outcome. Second time, had an appointment, things happen and it had to be cancelled. I wanted to see someone, tried, no one I knew was available so downstairs I went for a drink. a TGTBT blonde asked if I wanted to party, I did and we had a convo about things, she agreed to everything and up we went. Well, I got naked and she went in to "change in to my naughty outfit" and when she came out, beelined for the door with the $$ and being naked, overweight and old, figured there was no use to try and get dressed and catch her. So I figure I'm down about a grand to CWs and although I've been disappointed by Indys, never lost money.
OK, I now I'm long winded but one more thing.
I used to stay at the same hotel all the time and got to know the staff, waitresses, bar tenders and door and security. They do not have a choice if Metro comes in to operate a sting, but if they know you, they will let you know if there is trouble about. That is one way to build loyalty..
OK, done, sorry so long.

simpleton · 04-27-2012, 02:55 AM

Look I want to avoid any situation that will bring security to my room. I don't want to deal with that shit storm at all. I don't care that it's her would against my word. I don't want some crazy chick yelling and screaming saying I assaulted her.

Lastly if you don't believe dudes get arrested then good for you. But it doesn't change the fact that they do. Do you really think the casinos care at all about the small number of dudes that get caught up in a sting about not coming back. There is a good chance that they will tell you to not come back.

CryptKicker · 04-27-2012, 06:50 AM

Anything can happen at any time. Casinos try to avoid the drama because it is bad for business and draws too much attention to them. Of course ladies work the casinos... mostly the bars... and as long as they do not draw unwanted attention they are normally left alone. There are the occasional stings but they mostly do not involve the casinos for obvious reasons unless there have been complaints. The casinos do a good job of policing themselves.

trynagetlaid · 04-27-2012, 07:28 AM

If I owned a casino, I would do nothing to discourage this activity. Maybe monitor it a little with cameras, as everything that happens in a casino is anyway. A freshly fucked high roller is definitely more likely to gamble away more money than a guy with a stiffy.

They probably have statistics to prove guys who take fuck breaks spend more money at the tables.