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Old 02-03-2012, 01:23 AM   #121
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Criminal HIV Trials Worry Pharma Execs

It began in 2009 with Eneydi Torres. Accused of exposing several men to HIV, Florida prosecutors threatened Torres with decades in prison unless she accepted their plea deal. But when asked to prove the reliability of HIV testing, prosecutors abruptly reduced their offer of 15 years in state prison to five days of unsupervised probation.

Several months later, Magdalena Mays was arrested on similar charges. But like the Torres case, prosecutors dropped their HIV-related complaint against her.

Timing is Everything

The cases of Torres and Mays worked out much differently than those of Willie Campbell and Philippe Padieu. Accused of exposing others to “the virus that causes AIDS,” both received prison sentences that will keep them behind bars for life. Two juries convicted the men not because prosecutors presented strong cases, but because their defense attorneys were too intimidated by the mountains of gibberish and activist pseudo-experts who parroted pharmaceutical junk science. No one wants to admit that they don’t understand something – especially lawyers – so the attorneys of Campbell and Padieu let the activists talk and jurors decide.

Having released $7 billion to settle dozens of criminal and civil cases since 2004, the pharmaceutical industry is no stranger to corruption. But when lies, murder and mayhem generates $25 billion in profits, spending $7 billion to pay off prosecutors and victims becomes just another business expense. Nothing personal.

This is no different with HIV. After allegedly discovering the HIV virus in 1984, one co-discoverer was later found guilty scientific misconduct, while the other now admits that the industry pushes tests and drugs because there is no profit in good nutrition or clean water. And because infectious disease became statistically irrelevant in the US by 1955 (later Europe [2], Australia and South Africa [2]), scientists who were considering truck driving school decided that they needed something else to kill and injure millions of Americans annually.



Infectious disease became irrelevant in the United States by 1955. (JAMA, Armstrong et al)


Although rules of evidence are considered obsolete among HIV scientists, the pharmaceutical industry has not yet learned how to buy criminal lawyers. After more than a decade of criminal prosecutions driven by scarlet letter hysteria, defense attorneys are starting to notice that something is amiss with AIDS.

Despite CDC “estimates” that millions of black and homosexual Americans are infected with HIV, few Americans can name anyone they personally know who is affected by the disease that former HHS Secretary Donna Shalala said would kill most of the US population by 2000. Even in San Francisco’s notorious Castro District, HIV is only killing junkies and those who ingest HIV drugs that, among other things, compromise liver function, cause cancer and drive people to kill themselves or others. Despite being identified as HIV+ 20 years ago, anomalies like Magic Johnson are alive and well, thanks to his refusal to take HIV drugs – and to companies that pay him to push testing and drugs within racially-targeted black communities.


(JAMA - Armstrong) Despite inflated CDC and WHO "estimates," HIV was little more than a pharmaceutical marketing scheme.


Although experts still haven’t explained how they find HIV in test or blood samples, pharmaceutically-drafted legislation criminalized the exposure of HIV to others. For more than a decade, scarlet-lettered defendants were accused by the media before well-meaning juries condemned them to long prison sentences.


GSK and Abbott Labs paid Magic Johnson nearly
$100 million to push HIV tests and drugs in black
communities.


The HIV Innocence Project

Incorporated in 2009, the Office of Medical & Scientific Justice (OMSJ) has begun to examine the gibberish of junk HIV science. Comprised of scientists, physicians, legal experts and investigators who cannot be bought by the pharmaceutical industry, OMSJ is now involved in more than 30 criminal and civil cases throughout the US and Canada.

Attorneys who expected to plea bargain their mostly black and homosexual clients (profiling is big in the AIDS industry) are beginning to see the gibberish for what it is. Cases that involve Olympic athletes, sexual convicts and ordinary men are looking less certain as their attorneys take a closer look at HIV.

With the assistance and support of the HIV Innocence Project, defense attorneys have begun to force prosecutors to find experts willing to testify under penalty of perjury. Forced to choose between perjury, impeachment, or an admission that their clinics have never detected a single HIV infection, thousands of US clinics and healthcare providers face a deluge of class-action lawsuits from patients who have suffered or died from pharmaceutical “scarlet letters” and the deadly HIV treatments that come with it. Fingerpointing among clinicians and officials at the CDC, NIH and research universities and will eventually point to NIAID Director Anthony Fauci, whose agency currently directs questions to a pharmaceutically-funded South African blog.

Last week, one of its bloggers raised concerns regarding the scheduled trial of Darren Chiacchia:
“(T)hese kinds of cases perpetuate misconceptions about the virus and unfairly single out people who are infected.. Down the line, it stigmatizes everybody with H.I.V. because it makes them potential criminals,” said Jeanne Bergman.

Bergman should have considered that before selling her diplomas to the pharmaceutical industry.

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Old 02-03-2012, 02:20 AM   #122
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that was alot of info you posted. some of it rather long and boring which caused me to fall asleep. LOL!

its also depressing too at least where africa is concerned. I checked out some of the multi-links in your articles. I just had to see what this "Dry Sex" was. Ew, I can't believe that African women would actually go thru this method to please their males.

I was struck by the anecdotes of what happened to one African household where all the related males (brothers) died after inheriting the wife who had HIV.


with regards to Dr. Bauer, how is he involved with UFO's?
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Old 02-03-2012, 03:07 AM   #123
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that was alot of info you posted. some of it rather long and boring which caused me to fall asleep. LOL!
Information about lives destroyed and people dying is not intended to be entertaining.

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Mr Bill you have produced one epic troll thread and as far as I'm concerned (and I'm sure anyone else with half a brain) you're full of shit. I'm calling you out. Prove it. If you're so emphatic about the cover up prove to us ignorant masses you've walked the coals and put some tainted blood in your veins and come up AIDS free. And that goes for your little mutual masturbation whipping boy cog. Cog if your so willing to back Mr Troll with this dangerous disinformation and continue sucking his dick on this thread then prove it as well. I know quite a few HIV cases we can borrow some vials for you. I'm sure you're ok with it Mr Bill and cog. Nothing to be afraid of. What better way to prove your point then your arm chair copy paste.

...or you can continue copy pasting someone's else's ideas, better than actually having to prove it yourself.
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^^^ why are you getting mad
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:18 AM   #126
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Thanks Some People Trust In The Govt To Much & really need to step back and see the big picture... Instead of being a lazy ass who talks out his ass when he has prob never looked into this... Like the fucktard I asked why is he getting mad.... Oooo Im Calling You Out Come On Grow Up He Posted Good Info & I think he might have a point...
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The amazing thing about this entire thread is there is actually more than one person who believes all of this tripe.

Saying Aids is not caused by the HIV Virus is like saying paralysis is not a result of the Polio Virus.

Granted, there are a lot of people who have lost the use of certain bodilly parts because of other easons, but the fact remains if you contracted the Polio Virus, it would affect the nerves that controle certain bodilly movements.

Idiots.
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Mr Bill you have produced one epic troll thread and as far as I'm concerned (and I'm sure anyone else with half a brain) you're full of shit. I'm calling you out. Prove it. If you're so emphatic about the cover up prove to us ignorant masses you've walked the coals and put some tainted blood in your veins and come up AIDS free. And that goes for your little mutual masturbation whipping boy cog. Cog if your so willing to back Mr Troll with this dangerous disinformation and continue sucking his dick on this thread then prove it as well. I know quite a few HIV cases we can borrow some vials for you. I'm sure you're ok with it Mr Bill and cog. Nothing to be afraid of. What better way to prove your point then your arm chair copy paste.

...or you can continue copy pasting someone's else's ideas, better than actually having to prove it yourself.
I never said I believed Mr. Bill. I said it was interesting and I was going to look into it further. It is interesting, but I would be truly shocked, SHOCKED, if it ever turned out our government was lying to us to protect a huge industry, like Big Pharma, or BIg Oil, or Wall Street. That would NEVER happen.

But, you must be right, because you called me a homosexual. LOL!

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You sound like a hysterical conspiracy theorist, who just happens to be right. My brother from another mother.

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I never said I believed Mr. Bill. ...

So just what was it then that you were saying?
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Oh, that does sound like I agreed. I meant I like the research and the work he has done. I also like it when people don't take what the government says at face value. So I respect what he has done, and will look into it myself when I get some time. I don't disbelieve him, and think he has presented a lot of quality research supporting his opinion.

But you're right, it does look like I said I believed him. Sorry for the inconvenience this may have caused.
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Thanks Some People Trust In The Govt To Much & really need to step back and see the big picture... Instead of being a lazy ass who talks out his ass when he has prob never looked into this... Like the fucktard I asked why is he getting mad.... Oooo Im Calling You Out Come On Grow Up He Posted Good Info & I think he might have a point...
I have looked into extensively. And he is not right nor did he post any good info. There is no statistical correlation between the government's overall integrity and the reality of AIDS/HIV. Folks, the virus that causes AIDS is deadly; so deadly that the only way to make it more dangerous is to deceive folks about how deadly it is. Enter Bill.

Olivia, I can't imagine anything being more damaging to your business than associating with and defending a poster who introduces doubt about the greatest threat to the hobby that we all face. I'll ask you to reconsider the responsibility--and the advisability--of your position.
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Yes. Olivia, blindly believe what the government has told you. Your government would not ever lie to you about anything. Don't bother thinking for yourself, or researching for yourself. Your government has done that for you. Don't you love the government?

Seriously, I recommend playing like all we have heard about HIV is true, until we are convinced otherwise. It is better to err on the side of caution, than to take an unnecessary risk.
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Yes. Olivia, blindly believe what the government has told you. Your government would not ever lie to you about anything. ...
As I just said, the government is not in control of AIDS related science. Better advice, Olivia, is to talk with your physician. He is not a puppet for the government and will advise you properly. To suggest that "the government lies and therefore AIDS is not real" is analogous to suggesting that gasoline is flammable therefore we should never paint our bedrooms orange. NO CORRELATION.

You can believe that the government lies AND AIDS/HIV is real.
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Thanks Some People Trust In The Govt To Much & really need to step back and see the big picture... Instead of being a lazy ass who talks out his ass when he has prob never looked into this... Like the fucktard I asked why is he getting mad.... Oooo Im Calling You Out Come On Grow Up He Posted Good Info & I think he might have a point...
That's not mad. You haven't seen my mad diatribe. But if you want to jump on the bandwagon...the challenge is extended to you. And if you'd rather trust Mr Bill, a copy paste idiot on an escort board for your medical information, than the government or local psychician, I think you need to look in the mirror for the -edit- not going to resort to name calling only because you're hot, 21 and probably naive--end edit.
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Seriously, I recommend playing like all we have heard about HIV is true, until we are convinced otherwise. It is better to err on the side of caution, than to take an unnecessary risk.[/QUOTE]

Common sense. I knew you could muster it.
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