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Old 12-15-2011, 11:24 AM   #46
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Rharley, don't you think if a provider gave a bad reference that the guy would be told she was given not so nice info about him? That's not a good way to "keep a guy all to yourself".
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:42 AM   #47
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stacy, actually no i don't. i think women by nature are in cahoots with each other and we men don't stand a chance!
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:13 PM   #48
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$100 question, would you ever give a negative, or "iffy" reference for a guy/gal that you wanted to keep for yourself?
I'm sure some girls have done that (or at least thought about it), but imagine the consequences. When the new provider tells the guy why his references didn't check out, that his "ATF" gave him a bad review, he is not going to be happy with her.
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:35 PM   #49
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I have heard of an 'ATF' offering her regular a special when another lady contacts her for a reference, knowing that her regular has money to spend and is in the mood.
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I have heard of an 'ATF' offering her regular a special when another lady contacts her for a reference, knowing that her regular has money to spend and is in the mood.
It happens from time to time, which is why some ladies won't always contact other ladies for a reference (they are leery of being undercut by the lady they ask for the reference). This can create a VERY dangerous situation for the ladies that don't actually bother to contact other Escorts and providers, but yet still insist on references (word gets around between the gentlemen fast that references can be made up out of thin air . . . "she won't check"). Undercutting is a short term play though . . . and it can actually eventually drive the client away from the lady doing the underbidding / undercutting altogether . . . as has been said, variety is the spice of life.

Additionally, the lady doing the undercutting finds the client will usually play her, and play her hard . . . and eventually she'll have to go lower and lower to keep him - and not just when he's wanting a reference, he will want the deal all the time, he knows she's desperate to keep his money and she has given him control over her rate - she can no longer justify her normal rate and she will eventually lower it permanently with the client - she loses money and eventually (usually shortly), he moves on. Also, she'll grow to resent him, even though SHE is the one that created the problem.

Short term play, like I said . . . it never works in the long run, smart ladies know it will hurt their business . . . But, some ladies feel like they can't afford to lose a client under any circumstance, so they underbid when they get that reference request. They learn the hard way they should have just answered the reference in the final analysis and stepped up their game the next time they see the client. Hard lesson that MANY ladies have to be taught more than once, twice or even thrice and yes, they learn it the hard way - every damn time.

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Old 12-16-2011, 06:57 AM   #51
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I am so naive'.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:53 AM   #52
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stacy, actually no i don't. i think women by nature are in cahoots with each other and we men don't stand a chance!
Man you sure like making blanket statements. I wonder how you have gleened all of this knowledge. You must have been in this lifestyle for a looong time to know all of these things. Believe it or not, not all women are in cahoots with each other.
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:36 AM   #53
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I agree Malwoody...hell half of them dont even like each other!!

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Man you sure like making blanket statements. I wonder how you have gleened all of this knowledge. You must have been in this lifestyle for a looong time to know all of these things. Believe it or not, not all women are in cahoots with each other.
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mal, some day, when you're old enough to have pubic hairs, you'll understand
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not a good idea....
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:25 PM   #56
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mal, some day, when you're old enough to have pubic hairs, you'll understand
No Mr Nimrod, one day when you figure out the basic nuances of the lifestyle you'll..oh forget it, why do I even bother. It's ok, as long as you stay out of Grandview you'll be ok. Keep posting your facts....nott..
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why are you so damn negative...girl you dont fucking know me.i know when you called me and you were rude on the phone...Every thread you post or comment on comes across as negative and mean and there is absolutely no reason to be that way towards people.

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Stop lying, you are just making it worse.
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I don't screen on the phone. I have never called you.
Which she admitted in post number 17. In 23, she admits to talking to you.

Hmm. Me thinks something is amiss.
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:44 PM   #59
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It happens from time to time, which is why some ladies won't always contact other ladies for a reference (they are leery of being undercut by the lady they ask for the reference). This can create a VERY dangerous situation for the ladies that don't actually bother to contact other Escorts and providers, but yet still insist on references (word gets around between the gentlemen fast that references can be made up out of thin air . . . "she won't check"). Undercutting is a short term play though . . . and it can actually eventually drive the client away from the lady doing the underbidding / undercutting altogether . . . as has been said, variety is the spice of life.

Additionally, the lady doing the undercutting finds the client will usually play her, and play her hard . . . and eventually she'll have to go lower and lower to keep him - and not just when he's wanting a reference, he will want the deal all the time, he knows she's desperate to keep his money and she has given him control over her rate - she can no longer justify her normal rate and she will eventually lower it permanently with the client - she loses money and eventually (usually shortly), he moves on. Also, she'll grow to resent him, even though SHE is the one that created the problem.

Short term play, like I said . . . it never works in the long run, smart ladies know it will hurt their business . . . But, some ladies feel like they can't afford to lose a client under any circumstance, so they underbid when they get that reference request. They learn the hard way they should have just answered the reference in the final analysis and stepped up their game the next time they see the client. Hard lesson that MANY ladies have to be taught more than once, twice or even thrice and yes, they learn it the hard way - every damn time.

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Lots of wisdom and insight in that post.
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Which she admitted in post number 17. In 23, she admits to talking to you.

Hmm. Me thinks something is amiss.
She did call..but whatever...someone needs to put a dick in her mouth.She might quit being so damn negative.
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