CLOCK FREE DATES?????

[London Rayne]

I think you are forgetting why the hobby exists to begin with...many men either can't or don't want to go through all the trouble of doing it for free. You can't just assure a civie date will end in the bedroom and you certainly can't have it at 12 for x amount of time with a bbbj and msog. This is sex and companionship ON DEMAND.

Some men want both companionship and sex without the hassle afterwards. Maybe their wives no longer do any of this stuff, and they seek it here. I get what you are saying though...boy do I. You can't really buy true intimacy, but you can fill some lonely hours with a person you enjoy being with.

Originally Posted by burkalini

I can tell alot of you ladies are funny,sarcastic,good looking and probably very good in bed. It sounds like your alot of fun to just hang with and I understand your time is your only asset as far as income is concerned. I just can't wrap my mind around paying for conversation when there is so much of it free in the world. Dinner is nice and I can understand guys liking that but isn't just as easy to do that with a civie world lady or even with your wifes if you are married. The sex is a part where there is a connection with women in the civie world so I understand and agree that it is sometimes easier to just see a provider and then say goodbye than to take a chance of getting into any drama with a civie gal. I don't care what kind of shape your in or what you look like if its' companionship you want there is a few ladies out there for you to do that with that won't charge you a fucking dime. Just make sure you dress well,speak well and have a little confidence and you can get a date. If you only want sex like me then the cell phone works great. lol

[burkalini]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

I think you are forgetting why the hobby exists to begin with...many men either can't or don't want to go through all the trouble of doing it for free. You can't just assure a civie date will end in the bedroom and you certainly can't have it at 12 for x amount of time with a bbbj and msog. This is sex and companionship ON DEMAND.

Some men want both companionship and sex without the hassle afterwards. Maybe their wives no longer do any of this stuff, and they seek it here. I get what you are saying though...boy do I. You can't really buy true intimacy, but you can fill some lonely hours with a person you enjoy being with.

I sure want everyone to know I don't look down on anyone for doing anything they deem helpful to themselves. I was only trying to make a point that it really is possible for 99.9% of guys out there regardless of age and looks to secure a date with a civie woman. They just need make sure they are putting out the best. It might not be with 20 yr old hottie but it can be with someone that will laugh and talk about things with if that's what they are looking for. I'm 58 have graying hair and I still can date a women in her late thirties no problem. Not because I am gods gift to women but because they realize I enjoy their company and treat them well. If I have sex with them great but I keep the attitude that if I don't that's ok also because the companionship was worth it. I'm like alot of guys sometimes that I just want to have sex with a young hottie so I pony up and call a provider. I know this is easier said than done because there are alot of factors but if your SO won't even give you companionship it might be time to set sail.

[am-a-pleaser]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

I think you are forgetting why the hobby exists to begin with...many men either can't or don't want to go through all the trouble of doing it for free. You can't just assure a civie date will end in the bedroom and you certainly can't have it at 12 for x amount of time with a bbbj and msog. This is sex and companionship ON DEMAND.

Some men want both companionship and sex without the hassle afterwards. Maybe their wives no longer do any of this stuff, and they seek it here. I get what you are saying though...boy do I. You can't really buy true intimacy, but you can fill some lonely hours with a person you enjoy being with.

That's exactly right! Providers know how to create the fantasy. The clock-free date gives time with a lady without the issues that a civie date involves. Both sides know what it is and what it is not.

[Eccie Addict]

Originally Posted by burkalini

I sure want everyone to know I don't look down on anyone for doing anything they deem helpful to themselves. I was only trying to make a point that it really is possible for 99.9% of guys out there regardless of age and looks to secure a date with a civie woman. They just need make sure they are putting out the best. It might not be with 20 yr old hottie but it can be with someone that will laugh and talk about things with if that's what they are looking for. I'm 58 have graying hair and I still can date a women in her late thirties no problem. Not because I am gods gift to women but because they realize I enjoy their company and treat them well. If I have sex with them great but I keep the attitude that if I don't that's ok also because the companionship was worth it. I'm like alot of guys sometimes that I just want to have sex with a young hottie so I pony up and call a provider. I know this is easier said than done because there are alot of factors but if your SO won't even give you companionship it might be time to set sail.

I agree with this 100%

Btw Burke you do know you're typing everything in bold letters right lol.

[London Rayne]

I am sure men know they "can" secure a date but how long will that take? How much wooing and cooing and money will they have to spend before it goes anywhere, and who is to say it ever will? Guys are not here because they can't get laid...they are here because this is quicker and a guaranteed thing. If he wants 3 hours of sex and 2 hours at a movie on Friday night, he KNOWS he can have exactly that with a provider. With a civie, there is no telling how long that could take to secure.

[Eccie Addict]

We are all here for different reasons...

[am-a-pleaser]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

I am sure men know they "can" secure a date but how long will that take? How much wooing and cooing and money will they have to spend before it goes anywhere, and who is to say it ever will? Guys are not here because they can't get laid...they are here because this is quicker and a guaranteed thing. If he wants 3 hours of sex and 2 hours at a movie on Friday night, he KNOWS he can have exactly that with a provider. With a civie, there is no telling how long that could take to secure.

How about two hours of sex at the movies?

[burkalini]

Originally Posted by Eccie Addict

We are all here for different reasons...

I guess that's why we are here. To learn a little . I respect Londons opinon and don't always agree with her but I do like her.

[burkalini]

Originally Posted by Eccie Addict

I agree with this 100%

Btw Burke you do know you're typing everything in bold letters right lol.

I like bold. It goes with my avatar. The real reason is you can see it better. lol ok I won't bold this one time

[London Rayne]

I like the bold too. Cum makes me blind!

[Still Looking]

In my non-hobby world I pay for companionship. Dinner, Movies, air fare, car rental, hotels etc. In the hobby world I pay for sex. BBBJ,FSMPC etc. Only one provider has been involved in both. I'm on vacation right now and she is with me. I pay for all expenses. And if and when we have BCD activities I pay for that at the end of our trip. Price: $200 per session. Oh and she has a special needs child she home schools. Skiing in Sun Valley right now! I no longer consider her a provider, as she does not provider for anyone but me. She has a REAL job. But I still pay for BCD activities to keep things on a business relationship. I have another provider that will be crossing into this world shortly. Dec. 16th-30th. We'll see how that works out! Aloha!

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by The Nameless One

My interpretation of the clock free date is the focus is shifted to activities outside the bedroom and spending time in public. Some guys value the companionship/social aspect more, but they also want a little action as well. For them, these types of dates make sense. Nothing wrong with that at all, that's just what they like.

When I was hobbying regularly the clock free date never appealed to me, but I did do my fair share of overnights and 12-14hr daytime dates. Eccie is a value-oriented site. The reason you're not seeing more guys respond is because 99% of the guys that book these clock free dates are not even reading these boards. If they are members, they are not active as far as posting.

In all aspects of life, we tend to criticize things we don't understand. Some guys just want that nut. Some guys want a smokin hot supermodel type. Some want eye candy on their arm in public. Some want a fuck marathon. Some may want a combination of all of the above. If the clock free date is not for you, do the reasons guys book these really matter? I can look at a guy that just spent 250 on a BBW and say WTF were you thinking? If that's what he likes and it made him happy, that is all that matters. What I think is meaningless.

I think your right! Guys here for the most part book sessions for sex not companionship! I think like myself, we’re NOT interested in purchasing companionship from a provider. I wonder why that is? Hummmmm..........

[Guest052115]

For a 1 hour session, unless she's fucking your brains out from the second you step through the door to the second you leave, you could say most of us are paying for non-BCD activities to some extent. How many of you chit-chat for 5, 10, 15 minutes or maybe more before any sexual activities even start? How many of you come to a session straight from work and have to use her shower? Part of that 1 hour fee is going towards conversation, paying to use her shower, and paying her to watch you get dressed before you leave. In the end, you got the sex and that nut(s), so you leave happy.

If sex and companionship are that easy to obtain in the civilian world, why are we even here? Why does the escort/hooker profession even exist? Sure, it might be easy for some, but the reality is for many it is not. Guys that can afford to book these clock free dates didn't make their money because they were stupid. Maybe they're busy and don't have the time to find that sugar baby or haven't been fortunate enough to find that girl that will spend public time with them at no charge. Or maybe they did find that girl, but she disappeared/retired. The clock free date is for people that want the sex but also want to go out and have fun.

Let's say there are two paths leading to the final goal, one a straight line and the other a zig zag. The straight line is more expensive, but it's the easiest and fastest. The zig zag is cheaper, but it takes longer and requires more resources. Which path would you choose? The final goal will be different for everyone, but this is the reason why a guy would book a clock free date rather than try to get the sex and companionship through other means.

Originally Posted by London Rayne

I normally pay for the dinner and my own items on these dates...some women don't. If a guy is paying me freaking 2k and most of that time is not spent having sex, the very least I can do is buy him a nice gift and cover dinner and drinks.

I never had anybody do this for me. That gesture alone would keep me coming back.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

And you know damn well you would not have a problem buying dinner for our special friends...won't name names lol. There are some guys worthy of that, as they have proven time and again we are more than hookers to them.

Well those are our SPECIAL friends. Of course when it comes to guys that I enjoy spending time with I'm very generous. However, I would hate for everyone to expect the same treatment. Ya know? Heck I haven't even met Rabbit but I would love to take him out to dinner same with MonkMonk. One must have really made an impression for me to feel that way . And I'm sure that's the same with you, love.

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by The Nameless One

For a 1 hour session, unless she's fucking your brains out from the second you step through the door to the second you leave, you could say most of us are paying for non-BCD activities to some extent. How many of you chit-chat for 5, 10, 15 minutes or maybe more before any sexual activities even start? How many of you come to a session straight from work and have to use her shower? Part of that 1 hour fee is going towards conversation, paying to use her shower, and paying her to watch you get dressed before you leave. In the end, you got the sex and that nut(s), so you leave happy.

Ok, now you’re trying to separate the fly shit out of the pepper! You might be watching but if you blink then you’re not totally watching? Give me a break. Does anyone pull cloths off and start fucking as they walk in the door and run for the car holding their shoes and most of their cloths? Come on now! This certainly isn't an argument for companionship in hobbying.

If sex and companionship are that easy to obtain in the civilian world, why are we even here? Why does the escort/hooker profession even exist? Sure, it might be easy for some, but the reality is for many it is not. Guys that can afford to book these clock free dates didn't make their money because they were stupid. Maybe they're busy and don't have the time to find that sugar baby or haven't been fortunate enough to find that girl that will spend public time with them at no charge. Or maybe they did find that girl, but she disappeared/retired. The clock free date is for people that want the sex but also want to go out and have fun.

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I'm here (The Hobby) to get laid. I don't and will never book a clock free date. I don't need to be seen in public with some provider for reasons unbeknownst to me. I can afford whatever I want, that’s really not the issue. I can also drive up and down busy streets in the evening looking for $20-$50 dollar hookers and I don't do that either! I also as a rule don't pay $500-$1000 per hour to get laid. The ladies I frequent, I certainly don't consider low end or substandard providers. I'm not interested in trophy hookers either! (Most of which have GPS!) I certainly understand there are guys who want some hottie fucking them and even understand wanting to be seen with them in public. That’s just not my thing. What I don't understand is the hobbyst that can't get a hard on, hires high end hookers and then publishes ridiculously fabricated reviews. I think to myself, they must really think it is important what people think of them. You'll find a common theme in my reviews! I like the ladies and I get laid!

Let's say there are two paths leading to the final goal, one a straight line and the other a zig zag. The straight line is more expensive, but it's the easiest and fastest. The zig zag is cheaper, but it takes longer and requires more resources. Which path would you choose? The final goal will be different for everyone, but this is the reason why a guy would book a clock free date rather than try to get the sex and companionship through other means.

I really tired of the term "Clock Free Date" you might as well refer to it as a “dick with hooker” in public session for all I care. It’s a label that someone has put on a session that is for the most part a combination of BCD time and public time / companionship. These sessions obviously range in duration. I understand there are guys who can't figure out how to interact with ladies and it forces them to pay for companionship. I say rock on! You don't have time, or Zig & Zag OK whatever the reason, who cares! It doesn’t justify anything! Were right back to who cares! You want to pay a gall $2,000 for a two hour date or $2,000 for a CFD nobody gives a shit, certainly not me! In your previous post you pointed out I'm criticizing what I don’t understand! Not at all! I criticize it because it doesn't work for me! I'll never understand paying some gal an hourly rate to sleep. When I'm seen in public, I'm there for a reason. Who I'm with and the companionship I enjoy has nothing to do how hot a person might be.

I asked for hobbyist to come forward and share THEIR thoughts. From that aspect I say thank you! I was really hoping they might speak in the first person, as I have done!

I'm not sure who gave this session the label "Clock Free Date" but it sounds GREAT, till you find out the limitations and reality of the session. Guys who are not interested in the companionship, been seen in public or are more interested in BCD activities might not think it is as appealing. I'm will to bet it was a provider not a hobbyist who gave it this label! LOL Marketing genius if you ask me!