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Old 11-30-2011, 04:55 AM   #31
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From wiki:

Public Policy Polling (PPP) is an American Democratic Party-affiliated polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:53 AM   #32
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Absolutely I deny it. . .
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You said nothing...as usual.

And dodged,........as usual. . . .
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. . . You ask for reputable? Let's put that aside for a moment. . . . does it matter they aren't lynching or burning crosses? . . . .
To quote one of our esteemed residents of the house intelligentsia... "Ga-Fucking-Faw "!!

I don't give a dying rat's ass about polls! Everytime I see someone trying to use a poll to bolster their position in a political argument, I know I'm fixxing to see bullshit!

If Munch & TTH do not recognize the simplicity of a one word answer to an obvious attempt to "label" an opponent... all hope is lost in expecting much of an intelligent conversation!

carry on....
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:25 AM   #33
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Some of the posts in this thread (defending the NYTs) proves my point (see title of thread).

The Times, which thinks of itself as our nation’s newspaper of record and which at the very least helps shape elite opinion, should be combating dangerous stereotypes, not promoting them.
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:38 AM   #34
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The New York Times has been carrying the water for the left for decades.

In 1931, Stalin systematically murdered several million Ukraines by starvation.

The New York Times Soviet correspondant (Walter Durante) along with his editor, did not print the story because they thought it might make the communists look bad.

The next year Walter Durante won the Pulitzer prize.
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Old 11-30-2011, 11:12 AM   #35
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I have been lurking watching the political discourse on this site. Nothing ever changes. It is a team mentality. Us vs. Them. Meanwhile the same career politicians keep getting elected....and really the same stuff happens (to a different degree) with both parties in power.

No one will change the other's mind, none of us will change our mind based on what we read in a hooker board.

Yet we keep beating the dead horse, and the same march to the same end, by both parties, continues unabated.

There are some cold hard facts about our country's finances that we must face. However, the parties are still surviving by throwing up a smoke screen. Get a polling joint to produce a poll saying republicans are racist. Or a poll that says that democrats are wanting 100% abortion allowance.

The spread of information is growing and can no longer just be channeled by Mainstream sources as it used to be. As such the prestige of News organizations crumble and they are forced to chase the dollar and by doing so, carve out a market share. The best way to do this is to perpetuate the team mentality.


At the end of the day, you have to think for yourself and consider the source on any information. Like the poll by the Liberal hit job leftist pollsters, or the box review. I am sure you can find corresponding right wing biases out there, which reinforces the fact you have to think. Too many people have given up on thinking and only regurgitate without comprehension what they have been told by their side. Try to see every issue by both sides point of view and make an informed decision.

Government for the people, by the people, of the people.
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:32 PM   #36
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The NYTs is not the newpapaer it use to be. It's reputation for reliable reporting has been destroyed by mini Schulzberger...........here is just one example of how pathetic the NYTs has become...

NY Times Book Review Likens Tea Party to the Klan

by Keith Koffler on November 29, 2011, 7:51 am

A piece in Sunday’s New York Times book review section compared the Tea Party to the Ku Klux Klan.

The review, written for the Times by historian Kevin Boyle, evaluates two new books on the Klan. It opens with an indirect but unmistakable suggestion that the Tea Party is a modern version of the racist white supremacist organization.
Imagine a political movement created in a moment of terrible anxiety, its origins shrouded in a peculiar combination of manipulation and grass-roots mobilization, its ranks dominated by Christian conservatives and self-proclaimed patriots, its agenda driven by its members’ fervent embrace of nationalism, nativism and moral regeneration, with more than a whiff of racism wafting through it.

No, not that movement. The one from the 1920s, with the sheets and the flaming crosses and the ludicrous name meant to evoke a heroic past. The Invisible Empire of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, they called it. And for a few years it burned across the nation, a fearsome thing to *behold.
That a portrayal of the Tea Party as a racist and intolerant movement could get past the editors of the New York Times is perhaps not surprising, given what I think are widely held assumptions about the movement among the Northeast’s liberal ruling class.

What is somewhat shocking is the prevalence of these views given the fervent – even stubborn, in my view – embrace by the Tea Party of Herman Cain. I don’t think any of the GOP candidates has aroused more passion among conservatives this year, including Newt Gingrich.

Beyond probably being racist, the Tea Party is generally thought – in the non-conservative sectors of my city, Washington – to be amply comprised of boneheads and jerks.

For example, you cannot in polite company in Washington say, “You know, those Tea Party people, I think they have some really smart ideas,” without being laughed out of the room or, at best, have people quietly go back to their typing and try to pretend nothing just happened.

I am sure that Tea Party members are viewed in negative terms by the Obama people, most of whom fit quite nicely into mainstream Washington. The upcoming campaign, which will feature corrosive attack rhetoric against Republicans from the president, will no doubt exacerbate the misperceptions and suspicions about the Tea Party.

The Times, which thinks of itself as our nation’s newspaper of record and which at the very least helps shape elite opinion, should be combating dangerous stereotypes, not promoting them.
Whirlway when you go to sleep Obama will still be POTUS and when you wake up tomorrow Obama will still be POTUS!!!
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:35 PM   #37
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Yes, that is true. But someday Obama will no longer be POTUS, but you will still be ignorant.

The NYT is just one of many organs of the state-controlled media. Kinda our answer to Pravda.
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Old 11-30-2011, 02:31 PM   #38
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Countdown until Obama leaves Office
416 Days, 21 Hours, 27 Minutes, 42 Seconds.

tick, tick, tick
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Old 11-30-2011, 04:24 PM   #39
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Yes, that is true. But someday Obama will no longer be POTUS, but you will still be ignorant.

The NYT is just one of many organs of the state-controlled media. Kinda our answer to Pravda.
And until that day comes Whirlway can whine and bitch all he wants because he got what he wanted- hell why didn't you vote for McCain again WW?
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Old 11-30-2011, 04:30 PM   #40
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I didn't vote for McCain, either. And I did not vote for Obama. And I have no intention of voting for Obama, Romney, Gingrich, Cain, or any of the others at this point. But I will vote.

I think McCain would have been a bigger disaster than Obama is. We have to get to the point, and get there quick, where we are no longer choosing between who will do less damage.
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YOUR LACK OF JUDGMENT IS SHOWING AGAIN....NO WONDER YOU LOST ALL YOUR MONEY.....SHOULDN'T YOU BE GREETING PEOPLE AT WALMART RATHER THAN POSTING HERE?


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I'm much better at politics than business. Wouldn't you be better off back in your ward? You don't want Nurse Ratchet to find you playing on the computer again, now, do you
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Nooooooooooooooooo..........
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:28 PM   #44
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LOL! You don't know how bad I was at business!
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:43 PM   #45
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Yes, that is true. But someday Obama will no longer be POTUS, but you will still be ignorant.

The NYT is just one of many organs of the state-controlled media. Kinda our answer to Pravda.
Well the other is the WSJ then.

That should cover it. Both paper of record for each side are our answers to Pravda.
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