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Old 11-28-2011, 03:09 AM   #1
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Question HOW TO ADDRESS....LOWBALLING?????

I HAVE TO START OFF BY SAYING HELLO AND I'M SO GLAD TO BE APART OF THIS COMMUNITY. I HAVE MET SOME OF THE MOST GIVING N FRIENDLY PEOPLE ( MALE/FEMALE). THANKS FOR ALL THE LUV .. MY LUV'S

NOW ON TO MY TOPIC I HOPE I DONT OFFEND ANYONE BUT HERE IT GOES... :::PHEWW::::
LADIES, HAVE YOU EVER HAD A REGULAR ( FRIEND) LOWBALL U .. AND IF SO HOW DO U ADDRESS IT WITHOUT BEING RUDE??? GENTLEMEN WHAT DO U THINK ABOUT THIS SITUATION..???

SO A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE SITUATION ... LATELY ITS HAPPENED WITH 3 DIFFERENT MEMBERS AND ITS KINDA FRUSTRATING ... ESPECIALLY WHEN AS IT IS I RUN AWESOME SPECIALS. THEN TO TOP IT OFF THEY WILL SEE SOMEONE ELSE AND IT BE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN DONATION THEN COME BACK TO ME AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THEIR SERVICES.. THEN TO TRY TO LOWBALL ME.. I THINK ITS RUDE AND MAKES ME FEEL LIKE AM I LESS VALUE OR LESS DESERVING?? WHATS THE DEAL?? EVERYONE THAT HAS SEEN ME KNOWS THAT I'M REALLY SWEET AND LOTS OF FUN.. I JUST HAD TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM AND WANTED TO KNOW WHAT OTHERS THOUGHT..

I AM VERY MUCH INTO BARTERING SO MAYBE IF U DNT HAVE THE FULL DONATION
MAYBE I COULD EXCEPT IN SOME OTHER FORM SUCH AS GIFT CARDS, AIR MILES, HOTEL
REWARDS..

WELL HOPE TO HEAR ALL YOUR OPINIONS.. I ALSO APOLOGIZE IF I SOUND LIKE IM IM BEING A LITTLE BIT OF A COMPLAINER AND TRULY HOPE I DONT OFFEND ANYONE...


MUCH LOVE,
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Old 11-28-2011, 04:51 AM   #2
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I can't imagine trying to lowballing anybody...If I schedule with a lovely lady I bring the amount that is expected maybe a little more. What is that old saying, "You get what you pay for."
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:22 AM   #3
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It shouldn't be a problem.

The lady always has the option to say 'no' to any request. No means No.

If somebody lowballs you up front, it's because you've said yes and therefore 'cheapened' (not really a word), yourself in your own eyes and in your client eyes.

You are now offering deep discounts to select members and if not careful, it becomes the norm for all members.

Past providers have literally worked themselves out of a job by continuously lowering their rates.

To continue their chosen profession at a rate that didn't count on ten customers per day (in a business model that previously accounted for two or three), they have had to change

1. Name (least likely to work)
2. Location (can work until you say yes when in need, therefore cyclic problem)
3. Profile (UTR - change of name and word of mouth exclusivity from clients to clients that respect your business rates).

This can be a difficult situation to overcome, but once you've started that snowball running downhill there's very little chance of getting it to roll back up.

But it only start with you saying 'no' and meaning 'NO'.

I normally charge $200 for the first hour of a business consultation, but with you I'll consider taking it out in trade.

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Old 11-28-2011, 06:04 AM   #4
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Initial .. glad to hear that!!
@Doglegg..You are absolutely right!!! But yes and I have told them no. I am at a point where I'm just not even taking there calls or txt anymore.I don't like akward situations. So I guess that's ny best way in avoiding them.. for the most part I have been extremely fortunate to come across such great Men!

Thank you to those who do more and above And beyond .. with showering me gifts.. like ;spa day out, shopping, flowers, perfumes, and wine!!!

Well I look forward to many more honest comments!!!

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Old 11-28-2011, 07:00 AM   #5
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It's bound to happen, especially since the economy still hasn't fully recovered. All you can say is no, I'm sure they won't be offended or anything.

BTW, hadn't seen your newer pics, very, very nice
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:17 AM   #6
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Well, since you know which guys they are, if do decide to answer their call you could tell them that you aren't running any specials right now and it's your normal rate per hour or half hour if they want to still come over. Continue to do that til they finally get the picture that you are no longer offering them any kind of discount at all. You may have to stand firm on that to the point of having to count the donation before the session starts just to make sure that they don't short the donation.

But then again there are guys that you literally have to hit over the head with a sledge hammer for them to get the picture...
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:51 AM   #7
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Rather than be offended or upset, you should take it as a compliment. Those men are saying they would rather see you with what money they have than see one of the myriad ladies who are only to happy to take their donation. Work with them or not, it's your choice. It's not really fair to say anyone is "lowballing" unless you actually know their finances.
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Old 11-28-2011, 11:21 AM   #8
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Initial .. glad to hear that!!
@Doglegg..You are absolutely right!!! But yes and I have told them no. I am at a point where I'm just not even taking there calls or txt anymore.I don't like akward situations. So I guess that's ny best way in avoiding them.. for the most part I have been extremely fortunate to come across such great Men!

Thank you to those who do more and above And beyond .. with showering me gifts.. like ;spa day out, shopping, flowers, perfumes, and wine!!!

Well I look forward to many more honest comments!!!

Muah,
Sweet Lexxxi 38DDD'S


As stated in another post, don't option them out, that becomes your total loss of business within your client base.

Figure out how to keep them as customers, but at a rate that you CAN afford. Talk them into your rate with a special service that only you can provide.

Same product + 'new package' or service = good rate and good customers.

I talked over a business plan with a friend of mine that is self-employed.

His business model is based on Silver, Gold, and Platinum service packages.

His product package is - Service with a smile, service with an ear to ear grin, and service with a shit-eating grin.

Darlin - not to belittle you or any other of our fine provider friends, but you all have the same product to a lesser or greater degree with different wrappings.

It's how you package your product and sell your service that will determine the success of your business.

Ask the most successful within your community how they handle a three tier service model and see what you find out.

This model works whether AC/Heating, Computer repair, Brake service, hotel service, or time-share industries.

Because, honestly, yours is a time-share service isn't it?

Dogg

Waiting for that trade!
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Old 11-28-2011, 11:55 AM   #9
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Rather than be offended or upset, you should take it as a compliment. Those men are saying they would rather see you with what money they have than see one of the myriad ladies who are only to happy to take their donation. Work with them or not, it's your choice. It's not really fair to say anyone is "lowballing" unless you actually know their finances.
sorry moss...i completely disagree
theres nothing flattering when a guy is requesting to not pay you what youre asking ,"especially" if theyve spent more elsewhere, and werent sure of the situation
(she mentioned they spent more elsewhere, and were not satisfied, complained to her...and want Her to lower Her rate. although shes always kept them happy)

to me, if i know im going to get great service, etc..i dont mind paying whats due, bc i know im getting what i want. why ruin a good thing? (of course it could only be better if it were.cheaper...but i wouldnt ask) if im "offered" a discount bc of my loyalty, that is awesome!!! but lets face it, it rarely happens in the real world.

lowballing, haggling...it doesnt matter of youre rich or poor, "need" the discount or just "want" it....its all the same.
on the other hand, i do understand that some feel they can negotiate everything, or will at least try. i get it. but "i" find it insulting, in this business, personally

just "my" 2¢ ...
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:07 PM   #10
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Rather than be offended or upset, you should take it as a compliment. Those men are saying they would rather see you with what money they have than see one of the myriad ladies who are only to happy to take their donation. Work with them or not, it's your choice. It's not really fair to say anyone is "lowballing" unless you actually know their finances.
It is definately not a compliment! Read her post again. When she can see that the person recently wrote a review on another lady and how much was paid, it would definately be insulting to have that same person hagle over price with her.
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:43 PM   #11
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Sounds to me like the guy was/is a jerk!

This happened to me recently, but I caught it before my companion brought it up. I always put together the gift in a card and present it when requested. I usually also travel with some extra cash but on this particular day was empty. I had a wonderful session and wrote a positive review of the companion. Then while going through my hobby funds I found $20 more than expected. I immediately contacted the companion asking if I had shorted her, and promising to make it up when I was again in the area. She handled it much better than I deserved and I am grateful for her attitude. She is on my list of returns and will be appropriately compensated for her understanding. And if I meet her in a social setting, the drinks will be on me.

Mistakes happen, it is just a matter of how we handle them. But it doesn't sound like the situation in the original post was a mistake at all.
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:51 PM   #12
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Just tell them to go Fuck themselves, because they sure as hell won't get any from you! LOL
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Old 11-28-2011, 01:04 PM   #13
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The resident lurker and strip club aficianado has this to say. Yeah, we all get comfortable with one another and establish friendships but at the end of the day this is also a business transaction.

As a provider of erotic services you establish your rate. As a client, I offer / agree to pay a certain price for said services.

The lady always has the right to say no as does the fella. If a guy gets offended, he's a chump.

Case in point, I frequently get dances from a young lady I've known for 5+ years. For at least a year, we perform a ritual that covers how many dances I will get for the amount I plan to spend. Most recently she's decided that she won't do private shows for less than $300 (as is her right). So I take that $180 - $250 I plan to spend and go blow it on someone else. As smokin as she is and despite the great dances, the rate is just outside of my price range.

Some providers have their lower $ threshold and establish a rigid / set value for their time whereas others are willing to negotiate or have a tiered price plan.

Gem for the day - People behave a certain way in a relationship because they are allowed to (Tao of Steve) ...

Best of luck :-)
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Old 11-28-2011, 02:00 PM   #14
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Ok, here's my take as this stuff kind of interests me.

On the male side, you have guys always trying to get it as cheap as possible. Look at everyone flocking to mocospace. $30 for a BnG or whatever it is. Yeah, it's a hassle trying to find someone, but they're new, different, and cheap. Maybe you don't get the GFE, but you also don't have to wipe your hands when you're done. And yes, guys will say they're happy to pay the rate and some may even pay extra. That's fine, but I'm certain if that girl said she'll knock off $50 they won't complain, all things being equal.

Now onto the female side. I have seen you, along with a bunch of others, saying they're offering specials. Specials are always great, helps people to save money. But the problem now is you can't post your rates on here. So let's say for instance I've seen someone in the past and it was $200. She posts that she's running a special and I call to find out the price, and she says $200. Well, I'm going to counter and say, hey, you said special, how about $180??

It's kind of like going into JCPenny and finding the bedding on special, buying some up because it's a great deal at the time, and then getting an email from them every 4 days saying their bedding's on special.

Are you doing this? I don't know. I don't think I ever saw your posted rates, so this may not relate to you, but this is just what COULD be going through some of these guy's minds. I will say that the couple of times we did meet were great, and if I lived anywhere close to you I'd probably have lifetime premium access from all the reviews I'd write.

But maybe the whole "specials" thing should be rethought. I'm not sure if you can post "25% off regular rates" in ads, but keep your normal rates in your Showcase, then maybe run a Black Friday Special where everything's 25% off or 30 minutes extra free.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
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Old 11-28-2011, 02:16 PM   #15
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THE ONLY REASON I GET ANNOYED IS BC OF WHAT I SAID BEFORE AND AS MS PRITTI KITTI REITERATED ... @ LEVI .. HI HUN YEA I HAVE BEEN DOING THAT.. THANKS FOR THE ADVICE.
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