Is Herman Cain the 2008 version of Sarah Palin?

[TheDaliLama]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Could Hypothetically Joe Biden step down and Obama appoint Hilary as VP- or are there rules that would prevent that from happening? I think either Hillary or Obama would be much better than any one on the other side- would not be upset if Hilary was POTUS.

What? No "Four more years"?

You're stuck with Obama/Biden.

Sorry.

[Jackie S]

The 25th Amendment says that upon a VP vacancy, the President shall appoint a person to fill the office, the person must pass a majority vote of both the House and Senate.

Ford was the first to be subjected to this.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

The 25th Amendment says that upon a VP vacancy, the President shall appoint a person to fill the office, the person must pass a majority vote of both the House and Senate.

Ford was the first to be subjected to this.

Ok thanks for pointing that out to me and if I am not mistaken- if God Forbid the President suffers some ill fate while in office- the next in line is obviously the VP- but if something were happened to both at the same time- it's the Speaker of the House that would assume the role of Presidency correct?

[blue3122]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

let's be fair- you obviously know that Obama knows there 50 states and not 57- clearly it was a gaffe- just last week Bachmann said :"the nation of Nebraska" and not the "State of Nebraska" she clearly knows that Nebraska is a State.
However, a gaffe and not knowing what the fuck you are talking about is two different things. Cain CLEARLY had no idea what the "Right to Return" was- which to me if you are running for President you have to know some Middle East history. When Cain was asked questions about name one regulation he would change- he couldn't name one- that's irresponsible and not being prepared,
For example, if I said :"some of the amendments in the constitution needs to be changed and then I was asked which ones- and I reply: "I can't tell you which ones but some of them need to be changed" would I not lose credibility?
Cain was simply stating "talking facts" without knowing the details of what he believes. Look at how he answered criticism to his 9-9-9 plan- his response in the debate was: "go to my webpage and look at the analysis" or "you are comparing apples to oranges" he simply doesn't have the skills to back up what he preaches.


If you think Cain did well in his interview with Spitzer you are being way too generous and are you telling me he wasn't flip flopping on his abortion stance? At this stage you can't keep going back and doing do- overs- he claimed he was misquoted on the Electric fence- he said he misunderstood the question about releasing terrorist to Al-Queada in exchange for a soldier- he clearly said it should not be the government telling people what to do concerning Abortion(the pro-choice) stance than says Abortion should NEVER happen. Cain is clueless!

I see your point but I think Cain can recover. I still am waiting on the explanation for Obama's books. Its one thing to fire from the cuff or in Obama's case, misread the teleprompter, but its another to publish, not in a contemporary blog mind you, but in a book, complete fabrications. Obama explicitly says in writing that his parents were inspired by an event that happened almost 8 years after his birth to conceive him. How is that not a gaffe that the media never called him on. At the badgering of a friend, who is also an economist, I actually read his first two books. The first was probably written by Bill Ayers. The second, which is poorly written IMO, was probably written by bo. Both are the works of unabashed socialists/marxists. If you haven't read them and want to read some scary sh*# if you are a capitalist, give them a whirl. I think you can get used ones on amazon for less than $2. Or check the stalls at the local homeless shelters where they put them to better use.

The biggest question to ask for 2012, Will the media give Obama a pass and attack anyone else? He certainly got a pass in 2008. Now that he has a record, and a dismal one, will he get the same pass?

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by blue3122

I see your point but I think Cain can recover. I still am waiting on the explanation for Obama's books. Its one thing to fire from the cuff or in Obama's case, misread the teleprompter, but its another to publish, not in a contemporary blog mind you, but in a book, complete fabrications. Obama explicitly says in writing that his parents were inspired by an event that happened almost 8 years after his birth to conceive him. How is that not a gaffe that the media never called him on. At the badgering of a friend, who is also an economist, I actually read his first two books. The first was probably written by Bill Ayers. The second, which is poorly written IMO, was probably written by bo. Both are the works of unabashed socialists/marxists. If you haven't read them and want to read some scary sh*# if you are a capitalist, give them a whirl. I think you can get used ones on amazon for less than $2. Or check the stalls at the local homeless shelters where they put them to better use.

The biggest question to ask for 2012, Will the media give Obama a pass and attack anyone else? He certainly got a pass in 2008. Now that he has a record, and a dismal one, will he get the same pass?

Unless you work for a Book publisher or you are some type of critic that makes a living of reading and giving expert views on novels, best sellers etc than I take what you said with a rain of salt- in fact did you copy and paste your statement from Donald Trumps' rant here: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/donald-tr...-party-speech/

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by bigtex

I don't believe the "Liberals" are scared of Cain. If they are scared of any of the Republican Party's current lineup of 7 or 8 Drawfs, it would be Romney. He is the only one with a snowball's chance in hell of beating Obama in a head to head matchup!

Just sayin'

Actually, I think Huntsman would win in a runaway against Obama. But he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting the Republican nomination. He's smart, articulate, knowledgeable about international affairs, and is not a nut. Plus, unlike Romney, he hasn't taken two or three different positions on every issue under the sun.

[blue3122]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Unless you work for a Book publisher or you are some type of critic that makes a living of reading and giving expert views on novels, best sellers etc than I take what you said with a rain of salt- in fact did you copy and paste your statement from Donald Trumps' rant here: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/donald-tr...-party-speech/

I assure you I did not copy anything Trump said. Had I done that I would have attributed it to him. If we somehow managed to say the same thing, it was purely coincidental. That Obama's first book was written by Ayers was widely attributed and never contradicted in 2008 by either Ayers or Obama. I am not a book critic but I can read and comprehend that when Obama "wrote" something that was blatantly false (he did quite a bit of this), that it should have been called out by someone in the media. It wasn't. Go read for yourself and tell me if you don't find a lot of either inconsistencies or outright falsehoods depending on your slant.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by blue3122

I assure you I did not copy anything Trump said. Had I done that I would have attributed it to him. If we somehow managed to say the same thing, it was purely coincidental. That Obama's first book was written by Ayers was widely attributed and never contradicted in 2008 by either Ayers or Obama. I am not a book critic but I can read and comprehend that when Obama "wrote" something that was blatantly false (he did quite a bit of this), that it should have been called out by someone in the media. It wasn't. Go read for yourself and tell me if you don't find a lot of either inconsistencies or outright falsehoods depending on your slant.

Blue3122 that should scare you that you and Trump have said the same thing- recall this i a man(Trump) who made a fool out of himself saying he's got this team that discovered some "important" information on the Birthplace of Obama and then ended up with egg on his face. I will take you up on your offer and read those books and report back to you.

[blue3122]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Blue3122 that should scare you that you and Trump have said the same thing- recall this i a man(Trump) who made a fool out of himself saying he's got this team that discovered some "important" information on the Birthplace of Obama and then ended up with egg on his face. I will take you up on your offer and read those books and report back to you.

It wasn't Trump that said that first or even second. Actually if you do a modicum (that means "a token amount") of research, you will find out that Obama had a ghostwriter that was attributed as Ayers by several people. He did this because he was unable to finish the book and would have to return the $150,000 advance by Simon and Schuster. Its okay, Kennedy did not write his book either. But for those of us who have published it smacks of laziness, disorganization, and fraudulent.

[CuteOldGuy]

Cain is being pushed by too many handlers. I can explain his 999 plan better than he can. I don't know if he has any original ideas, or who is feeding him his ideas. But he clearly can't keep it all straight. Probably because he is not an accomplished enough liar to run for President. I think he's a flash in the pan, and the Republicans will nominate boring old Romney. I never thought Huntsman would look good, but he is. Still, we need Gary Johnson to start making some inroads.

[wellendowed1911]

Here's yet another Cain gaffe here it appears that Cain doesn't know that China has had nuclear capabilities since the 60's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gdDTsulrYU
Cain had better brush up on his foreign policy very soon!!!!

[Sensia]

Apparently the ladies who accused him of sexual harassment were let out of their confidentiality agreements by him the news said and they are pretty upset about his attacks on them. Both are going to come out publicly to talk about what actually happened. Oh this ought to be good..lol

[CuteOldGuy]

Let's not forget the President who honored the Marine "corpse," or who honored those fallen soldiers "many of whom are present today." Those are not gaffes, those indicate ignorance.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Let's not forget the President who honored the Marine "corpse," or who honored those fallen soldiers "many of whom are present today." Those are not gaffes, those indicate ignorance.

Oh please.

Show me something that's comparable to his not being aware China has nuclear capabilities. Or his not being able to name one regulation that he claims he's against. Or not being able to name one supreme court decision that he says he's against. Or having no idea what the right of return is. Or not being able to name one newspaper that he reads.

Better yet, show us one comparable example of his being proud of his ignorance, as Cain is with his Uzbeki-beki-beki-bekistan answer.

Your issues about Obama make for good late-night comedy with him as President. Issues concerning Cain would make for a good horror movie if he were President.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Let's not forget the President who honored the Marine "corpse," or who honored those fallen soldiers "many of whom are present today." Those are not gaffes, those indicate ignorance.

Trust me Obama has more intelligence in his right pinky than you and Cain combined- first off "corpse" very similar to corp correct? Also, Obama that said apologized to the parent for his error : http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...allen-soldier/

Anyone could have made those mistakes- especially mixing up corpse and corp- don't let me go into a frenzy of how many words George Bush screwed up. However, screwing up words is a helluva a lot difference when you think in 2011 that China is starting to develop nuclear weapons shows me you don't know shit about foreign policy- I wouldn't be amazed if Cain believes only the U.S and Russia has nukes. China has had nukes for 40 years and if I am not mistaken they have always had the 3rd largest arsenal of nukes in the world.