Welcome to ECCIE, become a part of the fastest growing adult community. Take a minute & sign up!

Welcome to ECCIE - Sign up today!

Become a part of one of the fastest growing adult communities online. We have something for you, whether you’re a male member seeking out new friends or a new lady on the scene looking to take advantage of our many opportunities to network, make new friends, or connect with people. Join today & take part in lively discussions, take advantage of all the great features that attract hundreds of new daily members!

Go Premium

Go Back   ECCIE Worldwide > Kansas and Missouri > Kansas City Metro > The Sandbox
test
The Sandbox The Sandbox is a collection of off-topic discussions. Humorous threads, Sports talk, and a wide variety of other topics can be found here. If it's NOT hobby-related, then you're in the right place!

Most Favorited Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Most Liked Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Top Reviewers
cockalatte 650
MoneyManMatt 490
Jon Bon 401
Still Looking 399
samcruz 399
Harley Diablo 377
honest_abe 362
DFW_Ladies_Man 313
Chung Tran 288
lupegarland 287
nicemusic 285
Starscream66 282
You&Me 281
George Spelvin 270
sharkman29 256
Top Posters
DallasRain70825
biomed163710
Yssup Rider61274
gman4453363
LexusLover51038
offshoredrilling48821
WTF48267
pyramider46370
bambino43221
The_Waco_Kid37417
CryptKicker37231
Mokoa36497
Chung Tran36100
Still Looking35944
Mojojo33117

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-17-2011, 09:57 AM   #1
JD Barleycorn
Valued Poster
 
JD Barleycorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 12, 2011
Location: Olathe
Posts: 16,815
Encounters: 54
Default When it rains, it pours

Earthquake, hurricane, Solyndra, General Shelton, Fast and Furious, and now a dead satellite. What comes next for Obama (I know, it is Bush's fault) and us. Like Jonah, Obama has become a jinx for the US and it is time to throw him overboard. In fact we need to throw over his entire administration and his wife Emelda, I mean Michelle.
I can see why the media (or our local Obama support society) doesnt want to get into Solyndra, F/F, or now General Shelton. It looks really bad, real bad. It reeks of administration malfeasance and corruption at the worst or total incompetence at the best.
Solyndra-Obama authorizes $550 million for a company that the experts unanamiously said was a bad investment. The panel under Bush rejected the request unanimously but Obama revived it as a show piece for his Green Jobs initative. The money man, Kaiser, was a big time bundler for Obama. The new panel under Obama wanted more time to make a complete recoommendation but were pressured to make an early call. Their call; Solyndar was "not ready for prime time" and it would be bankrupt by Sept, 2011. It didn't end there. According to the law, the US taxpayer was first in line for any monies recovered through profit or bankruptcy. Obama violated that with an executive order putting private creditors first in line just in time for a $75 million cash infusion from private concerns. The US taxpayer is on the hook a $600 million loss.
There are 15 more similar contracts waiting in the wings before the 30 September deadline.
General Shelton-the head of the US Space Command was to testify in front of Congress about a company who's owner was another Obama contributor. The details are murky but the four star general made it clear that the technology would compromise national security and our global GPS system. He was taken to a secure room and told by the White House that they wanted him to testify that he was in favor of this deal and that the concerns were over estimated.
Do I need to go into fast and furious? Guns for Mexican drug dealers, dead Americans, dead Mexican cops and civilians with those guns.
Amatuer hour.










the peanut gallery
JD Barleycorn is offline   Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 04:37 PM   #2
BigMikeinKC
Valued Poster
 
BigMikeinKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 6, 2010
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 1,528
Encounters: 19
Default

I stubbed my toe this morning, it was Obama's fault.

You might be a member of the Tea Party if you think Jesus was white, blonde haired, blue eyed and wrote the Constitution.
BigMikeinKC is offline   Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 04:53 PM   #3
Starry69
Valued Poster
 
Starry69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 10, 2010
Location: KC
Posts: 742
Encounters: 38
Default

Quote:
You might be a member of the Tea Party if you think Jesus was white, blonde haired, blue eyed and wrote the Constitution.
The results of my scholarly christian research has convinced me that Jesus was Muslim.

http://politicalirony.com/wp-content...10/25fsfuo.jpg
Starry69 is offline   Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 05:42 PM   #4
Bartman1963
Valued Poster
 
Bartman1963's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 27, 2010
Location: Kansas City MO
Posts: 519
Encounters: 7
Default

Wow for a few days there was an absence of politics. It was so pleasant. Now its over (sigh).

Now read thisfrom "Crooks and Liars')

The Solyndra loan guarantee process began in 2006, under the Bush administration, as part of a loan guarantee program under the newly-passed Energy Policy Act of 2006. It took three years for those loan guarantees to be approved, despite the efforts of the Bush administration to push the process in order to have something to show for their energy policy efforts. In that three-year period, the market changed for alternatives to silicon-based solar panels after China flooded the market with cheap silicon-based panels.

Free markets being what they are, Solyndra failed.

There it is, in a nutshell. The beginning, middle and end of the Solyndra story. There is no "there", there, despite all the concern trolling going on in the right-wing nutosphere. It is a tale of free markets.

Now that you know the real story, please go read Dave Johnson's post on the 5 biggest right-wing lies about Solyndra. And remember the biggest lie:

Something bad happened.
The right has been trying to push the idea that something bad has happened involving Solyndra. They are calling it a "scandal." But it is entirely a manufactured scandal, like those from the Clinton era. This is what they do. Nothing bad happened.

The supposed campaign donor/investor is not an investor. The timing of the loan is not suspect, it followed the proper, transparent, accountable procedures. The loan assisted the development of a promising technology. The green-energy industry stands to create millions of jobs and trillions of dollars for the countries that are smart enough now to make the investments that help them grab a chunk of it. The loan was good for the country, even though one company went bankrupt.

But by the time this smear is refuted, five more will have taken its place.

If I may be so bold, allow me to point to another "scandal" brewing right now. There's LightSquared, which is building a wireless broadband network that might compete with established corporate interests, like AT&T and Verizon.

Reality, courtesy of Daily Kos:

So the White House allegedly asked Shelton to to say (1) that he supports commercial wireless broadband and (2) that he would seek to expedite the Pentagon's review of the technology used by LightSquared.

So Republicans are pissed off that the Obama administration might be trying to fast track the regulatory approval process. Uh, isn't that exactly what they have been demanding ever since President Obama took office? A day doesn't go by that you don't hear some Republican or another demand that President Obama lift the regulatory burden on America's "job creators."

But as soon as there's a rumor that President Obama may have helped a "job creator" clear one of those regulatory hurdles, it's proof that he's corrupt—even though he was just doing what Republicans said they wanted him to do in the first place. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't "

So let's remember something. Vague accusations = bullshit 99.99999 percent of the time. Let's move on.
Bartman1963 is offline   Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 07:52 PM   #5
swarmyone
Valued Poster
 
swarmyone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 17, 2010
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 729
Encounters: 3
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartman1963 View Post
Wow for a few days there was an absence of politics. It was so pleasant. Now its over (sigh).

Now read thisfrom "Crooks and Liars')

The Solyndra loan guarantee process began in 2006, under the Bush administration, as part of a loan guarantee program under the newly-passed Energy Policy Act of 2006. It took three years for those loan guarantees to be approved, despite the efforts of the Bush administration to push the process in order to have something to show for their energy policy efforts. In that three-year period, the market changed for alternatives to silicon-based solar panels after China flooded the market with cheap silicon-based panels.

Free markets being what they are, Solyndra failed.

There it is, in a nutshell. The beginning, middle and end of the Solyndra story. There is no "there", there, despite all the concern trolling going on in the right-wing nutosphere. It is a tale of free markets.

Now that you know the real story, please go read Dave Johnson's post on the 5 biggest right-wing lies about Solyndra. And remember the biggest lie:

Something bad happened.
The right has been trying to push the idea that something bad has happened involving Solyndra. They are calling it a "scandal." But it is entirely a manufactured scandal, like those from the Clinton era. This is what they do. Nothing bad happened.

The supposed campaign donor/investor is not an investor. The timing of the loan is not suspect, it followed the proper, transparent, accountable procedures. The loan assisted the development of a promising technology. The green-energy industry stands to create millions of jobs and trillions of dollars for the countries that are smart enough now to make the investments that help them grab a chunk of it. The loan was good for the country, even though one company went bankrupt.

But by the time this smear is refuted, five more will have taken its place.

If I may be so bold, allow me to point to another "scandal" brewing right now. There's LightSquared, which is building a wireless broadband network that might compete with established corporate interests, like AT&T and Verizon.

Reality, courtesy of Daily Kos:

So the White House allegedly asked Shelton to to say (1) that he supports commercial wireless broadband and (2) that he would seek to expedite the Pentagon's review of the technology used by LightSquared.

So Republicans are pissed off that the Obama administration might be trying to fast track the regulatory approval process. Uh, isn't that exactly what they have been demanding ever since President Obama took office? A day doesn't go by that you don't hear some Republican or another demand that President Obama lift the regulatory burden on America's "job creators."

But as soon as there's a rumor that President Obama may have helped a "job creator" clear one of those regulatory hurdles, it's proof that he's corrupt—even though he was just doing what Republicans said they wanted him to do in the first place. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't "

So let's remember something. Vague accusations = bullshit 99.99999 percent of the time. Let's move on.

Oh yeah? Well Obama is still a communist muslim that was born in Kenya and hates this country!
swarmyone is offline   Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 08:51 PM   #6
pyramider
El Hombre de la Mancha
 
pyramider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 30, 2009
Location: State of Confusion
Posts: 46,370
Encounters: 10
Default

What the fuck is rain?
pyramider is offline   Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 09:04 PM   #7
Bartman1963
Valued Poster
 
Bartman1963's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 27, 2010
Location: Kansas City MO
Posts: 519
Encounters: 7
Default

LOL
Bartman1963 is offline   Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 12:23 AM   #8
JD Barleycorn
Valued Poster
 
JD Barleycorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 12, 2011
Location: Olathe
Posts: 16,815
Encounters: 54
Default

I guess you missed that part about the panel under the Bush administration vetoed the loan idea unanimously. This is an Obama fiasco. Curious that you missed that.
JD Barleycorn is offline   Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 11:21 AM   #9
Bartman1963
Valued Poster
 
Bartman1963's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 27, 2010
Location: Kansas City MO
Posts: 519
Encounters: 7
Default

Not "curious" as you say JD, for I tend to ignore unsubstantiated bull shit. What "panel"? Some anonymous made up by a Rush Limbaugh intern panel LOL? You'll have to do better than that. Name the members of the panel. Name the date of the vote. What building were they in? Was it a voice vote? Was it parliamentary? Was it a secret meeting held by the Vice President with his unrecorded, secret(read as Halliburton) advisors? It's all public record right? I'm sure it is...hahahhahahahahaha. You get that info, then we'll talk about how relevant it is. Until then its just more of the same manufactured crap that you guys have been spewing since 1992 and earlier.
Bartman1963 is offline   Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 01:19 PM   #10
Guest052813-01
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Dec 17, 2009
Location: Gone Fishin'
Posts: 2,742
Encounters: 16
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartman1963 View Post
Not "curious" as you say JD, for I tend to ignore unsubstantiated bull shit. What "panel"? Some anonymous made up by a Rush Limbaugh intern panel LOL? You'll have to do better than that. Name the members of the panel. Name the date of the vote. What building were they in? Was it a voice vote? Was it parliamentary? Was it a secret meeting held by the Vice President with his unrecorded, secret(read as Halliburton) advisors? It's all public record right? I'm sure it is...hahahhahahahahaha. You get that info, then we'll talk about how relevant it is. Until then its just more of the same manufactured crap that you guys have been spewing since 1992 and earlier.
You asked for it....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...qQK_story.html

from the Washington Post - Solyndra applied for the loan in 2006, but it was not approved until 2009 - three years passed before Barry and his cronies gave their approval to the loan.
Guest052813-01 is offline   Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 03:18 PM   #11
Bartman1963
Valued Poster
 
Bartman1963's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 27, 2010
Location: Kansas City MO
Posts: 519
Encounters: 7
Default

That link does not answer any question I had in the paragraph you quote. What meeting? What panel? Who voted to deny under BUSH... and if it was denied under Bush, show me the reapplication under Obama. You can't. There isn't one. Wasn't denied under Bush. Only delayed.
The only thing your timeline proves is that Bush's Cronies were asleep at the switch for 3 years. If they had acted quickly then maybe an American company wouldn't have gone belly up. I say most likely it went belly up because they had to wait three years for a competent administration to approve the frakking loan. That or wait until old man Cheney was out so that someone who wasn't Halliburton could get ahead in the energy business.

The scandal is that during the Bush years our energy policy was a state secret. Apparently if our govt runs an energy policy out in the open, you get slammed by Fox, Rush, et.al. And then the sheep, I mean the guys who buy into every loony theory that they spout start chiming in with equally blank details.
Bartman1963 is offline   Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 03:36 PM   #12
Bartman1963
Valued Poster
 
Bartman1963's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 27, 2010
Location: Kansas City MO
Posts: 519
Encounters: 7
Default

This is a tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury signifying nothing. I am out.
Bartman1963 is offline   Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 04:14 PM   #13
thorough9
Valued Poster
 
Join Date: May 20, 2010
Location: everywhere
Posts: 442
Encounters: 57
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartman1963 View Post
This is a tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury signifying nothing. I am out.
+100
thorough9 is offline   Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 04:17 PM   #14
Guest052813-01
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Dec 17, 2009
Location: Gone Fishin'
Posts: 2,742
Encounters: 16
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartman1963 View Post
This is a tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury signifying nothing. I am out.
And good riddance to you....
Guest052813-01 is offline   Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 04:56 PM   #15
Guest090920
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jan 6, 2010
Location: Amongst the people
Posts: 12,144
Default not quite....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Starry69 View Post
The results of my scholarly christian research has convinced me that Jesus was Muslim.
Have you spent any time in your entire life reading the Bible? Jesus was a Jew.
Guest090920 is offline   Quote
Reply



AMPReviews.net
Find Ladies
Hot Women

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2009 - 2016, ECCIE Worldwide, All Rights Reserved