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viviantonight · 08-31-2011, 04:45 PM

why???

BECAUSE.....

You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger

AND YOU DON'T LEAVE AN OUTCALL DONATION FOR AND INCALL APPOINTMENT

c'mon people look alive !!!

GP · 08-31-2011, 06:14 PM

Vivian, sorry to hear about your troubles. I am confused, so please pardon my ignorance, but aren't incall appointments usually cheaper than outcall? That has always been my observation of most ladies. Not sure what your rate structure was. Could you explain a little so we understand please?

PS: Then give us the name of the bastard so we can lynch him

lol j/k

LillyLilly · 08-31-2011, 07:25 PM

hmmmmm.....my guess.....outcall rate for incall when reservations are made equals less donation. 1 hour appt may not net much.....and probably it's even more frustrating when the person is a lot of work and not much fun and not even a monthly or weekly visitor. This type of person (shorting escort) would no doubt end up on a black list.

GP · 08-31-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LillyLilly

hmmmmm.....my guess.....outcall rate for incall when reservations are made equals less donation. 1 hour appt may not net much.....

HUH?

LillyLilly · 08-31-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GP

HUH?

Example using middle of the road reservation rate

One appointment booked for someone:

250-120=130 net profit incall

200-120=80 net profit incall with outcall rate

120=reservation

viviantonight · 08-31-2011, 08:34 PM

GP,
yes I think this is right...but NOT in my world! I do not book a room and see multiple clients. I see 1 client a day. Recently, I received a lot of requests for incall based on the fact that the gents couldn't book the room due to the fact that their credit cards are being monitored by their wives (or whateverrr). So I decide to start offering to book the room at a higher hourly rate...ALL of the rates were CLEARLY stated on my website and because of this I don't feel the need to sit there and count the donation before the appointment begins.
I don't think he shorted me on purpose. It was a great appointment, he was a nice guy and offered to compensate me appropriately (for this reason I did not feel an "alert" would be appropriate) I declined and chalked it up to a learning experience....and then decided to share what I learned with all of you

Shayla · 08-31-2011, 08:38 PM

So you had a misunderstanding somewhere which lead you to be short changed AND you were offered compensation but denied it. What are you bitching about?

GP · 08-31-2011, 08:45 PM

Thanks for the explanation Vivian. I think it will be safe for me to speak for many of the gents in your area and request that you don't let one sour grape ruin the bunch so to speak.

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Originally Posted by viviantonight

It was a great appointment, he was a nice guy and offered to compensate me appropriately (for this reason I did not feel an "alert" would be appropriate) I declined and chalked it up to a learning experience....and then decided to share what I learned with all of you

It doesn't even sound like you are really that angry

PS: Lily, the way you explain it is very confusing. I understand it, but it took a sec to figure it out, and I do pretty good when it comes to ciphering. Now that I have seen Vivian's explanation, you would of had to add the 120 reservation into the incall rate.

LillyLilly · 08-31-2011, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GP

Thanks for the explanation Vivian. I think it will be safe for me to speak for many of the gents in your area and request that you don't let one sour grape ruin the bunch so to speak.

It doesn't even sound like you are really that angry

PS: Lily, the way you explain it is very confusing. I understand it, but it took a sec to figure it out, and I do pretty good when it comes to ciphering. Now that I have seen Vivian's explanation, the would of had to add the 120 reservation into the incall rate.

I think most charge a flat fee for service. The cost of accomodations comes out of that fee. This is why the incall rate is higher. Someone working out of their home can offer a lower rate and they can still make a bigger profit than someone who has to book a reservation.

Also, if one can only do a couple of appointments a week, it is not much to live on after reservation expenses. Some will only book 1 and others may book 5 or more in one day. That's a lot of traffic coming in and out and is not something everyone wants to do or even enjoys doing.

viviantonight · 08-31-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shayla

So you had a misunderstanding somewhere which lead you to be short changed AND you were offered compensation but denied it. What are you bitching about?

wow shayla....very nice!!! how bout you tuck ur little attitude away for a second re-read the thread and this time notice how NO ONE is bitching and the "misunderstanding" is what I am passing along so that it doesn't happen to another gent ....simply sharing an experience and participating on this lovely site!
you're coming to NY soon right??? never know who you're gonna need a reference from. . . . . may not want to come across like that....it's not classy hun

JONBALLS · 08-31-2011, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by viviantonight

why???

BECAUSE.....

You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger

AND YOU DON'T LEAVE AN OUTCALL DONATION FOR AND INCALL APPOINTMENT

c'mon people look alive !!!

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Originally Posted by viviantonight

I don't think he shorted me on purpose. It was a great appointment, he was a nice guy and offered to compensate me appropriately

SERIOUSLY??? your two posting attitudes are a total contradiction.

Shayla · 08-31-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by viviantonight

wow shayla....very nice!!! how bout you tuck ur little attitude away for a second re-read the thread and this time notice how NO ONE is bitching and the "misunderstanding" is what I am passing along so that it doesn't happen to another gent ....simply sharing an experience and participating on this lovely site!
you're coming to NY soon right??? never know who you're gonna need a reference from. . . . . may not want to come across like that....it's not classy hun

I can see making a post if this guy intentionally ripped you off but you've made it clear that he was a gentleman and offered you compensation. You denied his offer. You don't have anyone to blame but yourself for why you don't offer incall anymore. Maybe I'm missing something? I'm confused - that's all.
I'm not trying to come off arrogant. I too am participating by making a mere inquiry as to why you're so pissed off. My "class" has nothing to do with it.

viviantonight · 08-31-2011, 09:33 PM

lol
O JESUS HERE WE GO......
k this is where you're all gonna start with your stupid comments....instead of just seeing the original thread for what it was ..a very simple, hey someone made a mistake learn from it so you don't make the same one...wtf is wrong you with you??
and Jonballs...really?? REALLY??????

LillyLilly · 08-31-2011, 09:34 PM

I can understand the frustration. One of the biggest complaints I have seen from escorts is that clients do not READ the terms on escort websites.

There should not have to be any talk of donation......ever....from either party.

I think Vivian has a right to be frustrated and she showed a lot of class by letting the guy slide..........but I don't think it is ever going to happen again.

Shayla · 08-31-2011, 09:36 PM

So why is it that when a provider is late or screws up for any reason that there's an excuse like "life happens" etc. or whatever bull shit you guys come up with yet when a guy makes an honest mistake he get's his nuts chopped off?