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Originally Posted by Angel_Grace
Wow... Mush heads?
Seriously?
It's a proven fact that republicans are trying to make it harder and harder for LEGAL citizens to vote! This is simply another form of intimidation used by the right to make it difficult and even scary for people to vote, even if they have the LEGAL right to!
You should't have to show a driver's license or state issued I.d. THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR to vote. You shouldn't be unable to vote because you can't afford to pay your parking tickets or fines! (don't go thinking I'm a dem, or a hypocrite. I also don't believe one should have to have a bank account to get a home or car. THAT, my friends, is unconstitutional.)
To think that during this day in age, with cameras, and registration cards, and computers, and social security numbers, and a HIGH level of scrutiny, that there is WIDE SPREAD voter fraud is a joke. Yes, some people slip through the cracks... BUT 4 PEOPLE DO NOT MAKE AN EPIDEMIC!
And to think that 'inexperienced mush heads' shouldn't be allowed to vote is just a sign of your own intelligence. I'm quite certain that what my opinion is just as valid as yours.
Not every 20 something is a cast member of the jersey shore for fuck's sake!
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Ms. Grace, by starting out your note here with my phrase "mushheads", I'm guessing you're poking mostly at me, so I'll address what I may. Nowhere have I written that citizens shouldn't be allowed to vote. In fact, I can't find anywhere on this thread above your reply to any reference of not allowing people to vote--you suggested that, not I. I simply agreed that people who take comedy for journalism and vote based on that ignorance are scary, and that they likely do so because they have little of life's experience. Also, I specifically mentioned that I meant nothing with regard to age--heck, I've known 15-year-olds with more life experience than some 35-year-olds. Age is just a number.
Regarding your "proven fact" about one party or another making it harder to vote through legal meanderings--that's anecdotal surmising at best, no "proof" of that in the U.S. I've heard by a major party ever since the Democrat Jim Crow laws were declared unconstitutional. Also, dennisrn's link on another thread:
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reports that the Texas voter ID card is provided free of charge. Further, I've never heard of anyone being denied a vote because of unpaid traffic/parking fines; a federal civil rights case for disenfranchisement might ensue from that I'd think.
There isn't widespread voter fraud for national elections anymore. But there is enough documented voter fraud/intimidation to make a difference in local and state elections, which can have an avalanche effect (e.g., Franken & Soetoro). Any registered voter knowing this should be outraged that his/her vote ends up counting for naught, countered by the fraud of some insider who dredged up the names of the dead and assigned votes to them. As for the four people that Colbert "reported"--his satire has a public and highly-biased agenda, and he obviously cherry-picked his statistics. He didn't mention the Chicago political machine, or the New Mexico problems (linked by satexasguy earlier), or any other problem areas. Colbert and Stewart rely on mushheads to laugh at their jokes making fun of constitutional rights in order to entertain and sell their sponsor's products.
So, Ms. Grace, while I greatly appreciate your passion, please read and comprehend what I've actually typed before getting upset that I'm saddened/scared by ignorant, chuckling mushheads who vote the way Colbert & Stewart tell them to instead of thinking for themselves. Thank God almost all 20-somethings I know have little in common with Jersey Shore cast members. It's still an unfortunate reality that Colbert & Stewart's comedy is taken for journalism by a large number of people.
(For anyone who may not often watch Colbert or who doesn't realize it, Colbert is NOT a conservative. At best he satirizes, but for the past year or so in my opinion, he mostly just mocks with little real humor anymore. Kinda sad. I used to find him fresh and hilarious, poking fun at conservative peccadillos and sacred cows. Nowadays he's mostly a talking-point mercenary, echoing Ed Schultz with less rage.
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