Tom Coburn of Oklahoma revealed a budget plan that would cut $9 trillion over ten years

[WTF]

I think whirly would have trouble having thbis conversation in person is wtf I think

[Whirlaway]

US default is enevitable....it is just musical chairs whose watch it will occur on ! We owe vast sums of money in the form of unfunded mandates that we just can't pay !

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...stainable.html

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Doove

So what? Because there are reasons where tax increases are necessary. To get out of debt, for one.

Anyone who thinks they know the answer before being asked the question, which is what that pledge proves, has no right to hold public office. That's "so what".

spending cuts are necessary, tax increases just feed the monster. the issue is getting a pro-business, pro-job, pro-capitalism government and the revenues will grow without tax increases while reducing the size of the monster

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

hey posting that page made my screen skew ever wider...not fair

My apologies, sir. I could have posted more, but the whole McConnell-Reid plan is just more "smoke and mirrors" BS.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

My apologies, sir. I could have posted more, but the whole McConnell-Reid plan is just more "smoke and mirrors" BS.

its ok we have moved on to a whole new posting page....problem cured.
its the moving on that's dibilitating

[Doove]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

sure you can hold the views and not sign it, and you can hold the views and sign it. so you sign it and hold the views, so what?

Ignore what 72% of all Americans think, and what 54% in your own party thinks.

Nah, Grovel Norquist doesn't own them....no evidence of that.

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

spending cuts are necessary, tax increases just feed the monster. the issue is getting a pro-business, pro-job, pro-capitalism government and the revenues will grow without tax increases while reducing the size of the monster

Many, many of our wealth creating jobs, and many support jobs as well, except mining and construction have been shipped overseas. Now what?

[Doove]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

spending cuts are necessary, tax increases just feed the monster. the issue is getting a pro-business, pro-job, pro-capitalism government and the revenues will grow without tax increases while reducing the size of the monster

This entire comment contradicts itself. Tax increases just feed the monster? Through increased revenues is clearly what you mean. But then you go on to say that if we increase revenues through tax cuts, we'll reduce the size of the monster. That's absurd.

The only thing that's consistent is your desire for tax cuts. It's about all you republicans have.

[dilbert firestorm]

it appears that the majority of here favors tax increases. how high should they go?

aren't current taxes high enough already?

[dilbert firestorm]

whirlaway - why are you making your comments private in some of your posts?

WTF - you're weird in responding to your own post.

[dilbert firestorm]

as for grover norquist, he is not a real conservative. what he is doing is a bait and switch gimmick. he's not serious about the tea party.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

aren't current taxes high enough already?

Not according to Bruce Bartlett - no liberal whack-a-doodle he.

"By this measure (as a percentage of GDP), federal taxes are at their lowest level in more than 60 years. The Congressional Budget Office estimated that federal taxes would consume just 14.8 percent of G.D.P. this year. The last year in which revenues were lower was 1950, according to the Office of Management and Budget.

The postwar annual average is about 18.5 percent of G.D.P. Revenues averaged 18.2 percent of G.D.P. during Ronald Reagan’s administration; the lowest percentage during that administration was 17.3 percent of G.D.P. in 1984.

In short, by the broadest measure of the tax rate, the current level is unusually low and has been for some time. Revenues were 14.9 percent of G.D.P. in both 2009 and 2010."

[DFW5Traveler]

Common sense says that cutting spending actually creates a revenue stream. Why raise taxes when you haven't spent the money you cut from the budget? Or why not apply the excess revenue created from budget cuts directly to the publicly held debt of 14.5+ TRILLION dollars?

Raise revenue by cutting out loopholes in the tax code. Make companies like GE, who is in bed with the left, pay their fair share. Bring back the manufacturing jobs that left the country, like the Green Jobs, that GE is offshoring in China.

Rules for Radical's on the left...
Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage.”

Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, “Okay, what would you do?”

Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

[JONBALLS]

even if the libs could tax at 100% it wouldnt be enough.Theres no jobs here because the corporate tax rate is the highest, ask GE.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

whirlaway - why are you making your comments private in some of your posts?

WTF - you're weird in responding to your own post.

LOL

It is how whirlaway is responding, he is answering questions inside my quotes and I am doing the same once he does. Confusing I know. Sorry. But I sure as hell ain't talking to myself. I'm talking to a couple of brick walls!