Haggling is INSULTING

[Reya Sunshine]

Howdy!

Perhaps you are out of the loop on this or you aren't a "pic collector" and don't keep running track of such things but let me attempt to straighten this out for you:

1) I have posted pics as well as a showcase on Eccie in the past year off and on sometimes for months at a time depending on my mood,including full face photos. I have met SEVERAL members of Eccie(a couple that post daily here actually) and they will all vouch that I am indeed the person in the photos previously posted. Having 1 review on Eccie means very little to this argument- I see a few select people and don't work off reviews generally and thus don't push for them. I also don't post many ads- this doesn't discredit me from being an established and well verified provider on Eccie. However, I have met many people at socials etc. and they would also speak up if I were falsely representing myself.

2) I have photos up on P411 and am one of the few providers on that site to be PHOTO VERIFIED by GINA herself. Surely there are members of this site that are also members of p411 and would LOVE to tell us all that I am not who I claim to be if that were the case.

3) I agree with you that the NCNS post was oddly placed and that was another factor in my determining the guy sounds like *edit*- the gentleman appears to be distracted and it made for an incoherent post*. However, it WAS placed and it was a direct "throwing down of a gauntlet" per the poster's words so I replied as did at least one other member here other than the person who posted it. You will notice BTW, that NO ONE has said I have ever NCNS'ed them which was the main theme of the guy's rant as far as I could tell.

4) I think you are confusing having a high visibility to the general public that happens to come across a SHMB with having an established reputation with members on Eccie. Furthermore, and I may just be sensitive to this...I feel like your entire post was a hollow attempt at discrediting me for whatever reason...you even mentioned the fact that I didn't hot link my reviews on TER...well, I gave my ID and nothing is stopping people from looking them up if they are so inclined. I realize I opened myself up to speculation by answering the man's question but the vibe I'm getting is that you went through all of the stuff he posted: NCNS, misleading stats/measurements/eye color/hair color/age etc. actively looking for something to nail my ass to the wall with and the best you could do is that I don't post many ads and don't CURRENTLY have any pics up.

Ha, is this just an attempt to wrangle a face to face meeting for "verification purposes" at no cost to yourself? I know you emailed me and were interested in an appointment with me in the past.

Originally Posted by Baloney Pony

Howdy, Folks!



As I posted earlier - I don't haggle.


I look at posted prices. If the posted prices aren't to my liking, I move on to the next one, find one who's posted prices are more to my liking.


This quoted post by Hannah is an interesting post.

Let's parse it a bit...




Let's look here:

http://www.eccie.net/member.php?u=56673


Okay - One review on Eccie only(March 2011), no pics in the review; no showcase set up, so no photos on Eccie.

Let's look at the website set up:

http://www.hannahheresy.com/gallery.html

No photos here, either.


Back to http://www.eccie.net/member.php?u=56673 :

"My TER ID& TER Reviews: 165402/My p411 ID: P53733" [neither of these are hot links]




p411 shows the following when searching by that ID:

"Information available to members only!
Click Here to Become a Member" - No pics available to Eccie members.


Over at TER:

TER shows no pics for Eccie members, last TER review March 2011.


So, as for photos - Hannah is quite correct; it appears she doesn't engage in posting them where Eccie members may see them.

Therefore, no one can state she's not who she claims to be, as there's nothing for comparison.


Interestingly written post, to get that information across.


Ultimately - what does "...false advertising/photos/ misleading ages..." have to do with haggling?

[sixxbach]

Originally Posted by Hannah Heresy

3) I agree with you that the NCNS post was oddly placed and that was another factor in my determining the guy sounds like he needs to up his meds.

Hannah, can we not speculate on a member's medical condition please....

sixx

[sixxbach]

btw.... Hannah is who she claims to be... she is aight......

sixx

[Reya Sunshine]

See, Pony- they keep me in line around here!

Originally Posted by sixxbach

Hannah, can we not speculate on a member's medical condition please....

sixx

[pyramider]

Sometimes it good to have a tazer.

[Baloney Pony]

Howdy, Folks!

Originally Posted by Hannah Heresy

Howdy!

Perhaps you are out of the loop on this or you aren't a "pic collector" and don't keep running track of such things but let me attempt to straighten this out for you:

1) I have posted pics as well as a showcase on Eccie in the past year off and on sometimes for months at a time depending on my mood,including full face photos. I have met SEVERAL members of Eccie(a couple that post daily here actually) and they will all vouch that I am indeed the person in the photos previously posted. Having 1 review on Eccie means very little to this argument- I see a few select people and don't work off reviews generally and thus don't push for them. I also don't post many ads- this doesn't discredit me from being an established and well verified provider on Eccie. However, I have met many people at socials etc. and they would also speak up if I were falsely representing myself.

You're right - I'm not a pic collector.


As to the number of reviews on Eccie - listed for informational purposes only. If there had been multiple reviews, there would be more chances for members to link to pics; I mentioned it only so folks wouldn't hafta dig around for another review, or say, "what about the review I posted on XYZ date? that review had pics..."


As stated - it "appears" you don't engage in posting pictures where Eccie members may see them. That's as of this writing.

Originally Posted by Hannah Heresy

2) I have photos up on P411 and am one of the few providers on that site to be PHOTO VERIFIED by GINA herself. Surely there are members of this site that are also members of p411 and would LOVE to tell us all that I am not who I claim to be if that were the case.

Good for you!

However, as I wrote:

"p411 shows the following when searching by that ID:

'Information available to members only!
Click Here to Become a Member' - No pics available to Eccie members.


Over at TER:

TER shows no pics for Eccie members, last TER review March 2011.


So, as for photos - Hannah is quite correct; it appears she doesn't engage in posting them where Eccie members may see them."


Having pics posted on P411 only accessible to folks with p411 accounts won't necessarily be seen by folks here in EccieLand™.

Oh, and sorry - I have no idea who GINA is. I can't keep up with everyone. My apologies.

Originally Posted by Hannah Heresy

4) Furthermore, and I may just be sensitive to this...I feel like your entire post was a hollow attempt at discrediting me for whatever reason...

Really? That's interesting - it wasn't. The title of the thread is, "Haggling is INSULTING," and as I stated:


"Ultimately - what does '...false advertising/photos/ misleading ages...' have to do with haggling?"

Originally Posted by Hannah Heresy

...you even mentioned the fact that I didn't hot link my reviews on TER...well, I gave my ID and nothing is stopping people from looking them up if they are so inclined.

Exactly - I mentioned a fact, because it was simply that - a statement of fact, easily verified. As to your IDs, you are correct - so, I used the ones freely provided by you to look up your information to verify the following:


http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...85#post1463385

"As for...[snip]/photos/[/snip] ...I don't engage in it myself..."

I found this statement to be absolutely true, and indicated as such.



[Hmm...saying you are stating the truth - how can you construe this as "...a hollow attempt at discrediting..." you "...for whatever reason?"]

Originally Posted by Hannah Heresy

I realize I opened myself up to speculation by answering the man's question but the vibe I'm getting is that you went through all of the stuff he posted: NCNS, misleading stats/measurements/eye color/hair color/age etc. actively looking for something to nail my ass to the wall with and the best you could do is that I don't post many ads and don't CURRENTLY have any pics up.

This is not correct - I am not "...actively looking for something to nail" your "...ass to the wall."


I just found the post unusual, and was wondering how it was relevant to haggling.

Originally Posted by Hannah Heresy

Ha, is this just an attempt to wrangle a face to face meeting for "verification purposes" at no cost to yourself? I know you emailed me and were interested in an appointment with me in the past.

Okay - this is completely out of line, and uncalled for.

1. Since when do we start dragging out the contents of PMs and emails in an open forum?

http://www.eccie.net/announcement.php?f=5

#9 - No form of private communications between members are to be posted in our forums. This includes the contents of emails, PMs, IMs, private chat logs, privately shared images, etc. This is an invasion of another's privacy and will not be allowed.



2. Your statement is untrue, and I take extreme offense over this false claim.



BP

[Vyt]

Let's just nip this in the bud right now. I have not met Hannah BCD but have met her socially and she is exactly as she claims; her website hasn't been updated but she did used to post pictures of herself which were not misleading.

I would also highly recommend springing for a P411 account for a number of reasons.

Now, let's get back on topic.

[Spacemtn]

Originally Posted by Baloney Pony

Howdy, Folks!

Okay - this is completely out of line, and uncalled for.

1. Since when do we start dragging out the contents of PMs and emails in an open forum?

http://www.eccie.net/announcement.php?f=5

#9 - No form of private communications between members are to be posted in our forums. This includes the contents of emails, PMs, IMs, private chat logs, privately shared images, etc. This is an invasion of another's privacy and will not be allowed.



2. Your statement is untrue, and I take extreme offense over this false claim.

BP

Posting Guideline #9 prohibits posting private communications in our forums. An example would be a detailed statement of commnication between members, a copy of the communication by cut and paste, or a link to the communication itself. It does not mean that a provider cannot say that you "contacted" her for an appointment. If this were the case, any instance of reporting a NCNS and conversations afterwards between the 2 parties would be subject to this guideline. Also if a provider has poor TCB, ie, "I have PM'd her 3 times and she has not repsonded", "I sent her a p411 and haven't heard back from her in 4 days", etc would be a violation of this guideline.
Hopefully this will clarify the difference in Hannah mentioning that you had PM'd her for an appointment (innocent and innocuous) and someone posting the actual PM, e mail or text.

Spacemtn
AustinModStaff

[Reya Sunshine]

I will gladly forward your previous message that you did indeed send to me back to you so u can confirm or be reminded of it after which I will eagerly await your apology though from your tone I suspect it will be in vain. I could also forward it to a mod or other third party if you'd like- I'm certainly not lying and have no problem proving it. Hop off my clit please! Try to lose an argument with some grace. Jesus wept, the shit I go through!

Ps- thx sixx, vyt and spacemountain for backing me up!

[sixxbach]

Originally Posted by Hannah Heresy

I will gladly forward your previous message that you did indeed send to me back to you so u can confirm or be reminded of it after which I will eagerly await your apology though from your tone I suspect it will be in vain. I could also forward it to a mod or other third party if you'd like- I'm certainly not lying and have no problem proving it. Hop off my clit please! Try to lose an argument with some grace. Jesus wept, the shit I go through!

Ps- thx sixx, vyt and spacemountain for backing me up!

Consider my help as a freebie.

Sixx

[Reya Sunshine]

Pssht! Well, thanks again but don't expect me to respond in kind if that was a freebie. Lol. The truth is the truth, Id do the same for you....awww group hug!

Originally Posted by sixxbach

Consider my help as a freebie.

Sixx

[Jules Jaguar]

mods please close this thread, ive been gone from austin for 2 weeks already. If you guys want to have a silly fight start your own thread!

[Guest101211-2]

I believe this thread has ran its course and has veered off topic!

Closed per originator's request