The most important title a guy could have.

[true_whatever]

Originally Posted by tramp76137

then of course you have a number of Ladies who carter to there "whatever" and it is hard to get into see them.

Hey hey now, don't drag me into this!!

True_Whatever: providing levity where desperately needed!

[TexRich]

Originally Posted by LovingKayla

TR is in the vast minority and is not looking for that emotional fill the people that see me usually do. He is a very good example of different strokes for different folks.


I say that because of TR post. You won't catch everyone in your net, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.

Sure, but I am moreso a pragmatist......The "illusion of passion" as a former member use to say, is very nice and sperates them from most of the other providers but for the most part I just want to get my rocks off. I have a real life GF for the passion and fantasy.

[Boltfan]

Budman,

Still in West Texas? Perhaps it is all that damn wind blowing around. Why so bitter man?

I do agree that many times a threAD goes up with little to no intention other than to promote. While LK may get some exposure here if some of the other not so "professional" ladies read this isn't that a good thing? This isn't the standard thread, it is a way to think about people, not just how to mechanically treat them.

Or would you rather read another "she won't see AA" thread?

[HeadShaftBallsandAll]

Originally Posted by LovingKayla

Customer: Someone who buys goods or services.


Client:One who is under the care, guidance, and protection of an expert in a particular field.


I over heard a conversation between 2 providers and they both were referring to their guys as customers. The discussion was about how they didn't get a very good repeat "customer" rate. I've learned to NOT throw my hat in a ring I wasn't dragged to so I'll give my thoughts on it here and open the floor for debate.

In any business, you had better be an expert or you will get washed away. Being an expert in this field means you have great empathy for the plight of a horny, rejected at home, man. If you don't take care for your guy, that puts you in a huge lake of "normal" providers that go out of business pretty quickly (they won't be your guy for long.)

More often than not he will ask you what you think or know about X provider. If you can offer him true guidance on who he sees, what do you think that does for brand loyalty? You will be building a solid relationship with your client and he will grow to trust you.

Protecting your client can be as simple as talking to the provider that's asking for a ref and say something like " I really like this client, please treat him well. He's Alot of fun." girls think about it, when you get a glowing ref you are automatically in that receptive state and EAGER to visit with the new client. He gets a better session simply because you sent out that little note of "he's a good one. Treat him like you would your favorite client."


The debate question is: Would you rather have customers or clients? Or: Would you rather be a customer or a client?

Either is fine but I'm curious about your thinking on either one. Some people might rather being a customer instead. There wouldn't be near as much personal connect which could be appealing to a certain type of guy.

Behind closed doors, I just assumed providers referred to us as, "tricks" "johns" and one I heard from a dancer for frequenters of the same strip club, "furniture".... I never really thought of having a preference on what to be called, but if I get one, I want it to be "Greatest Fucking Man to Ever Have Been Born, With the best cock ever" guy or something along those lines, I'm not too picky, lol!

[otrdriver]

great thread

[pmdelites]

Originally Posted by Budman

This question is splitting hairs and IMO is nothing more than an AD. It's telling everyone how you are better than the majority of providers and will take better care of them. It has also become a thread where others can tell you how wonderful, smart, caring you are. Blah, Blah, Blah...This site is about hookers and johns and dressing it up with "titles" is silly.

Originally Posted by Budman

Kayla,
Your original post was made to look like you were mentoring other providers and offering guidance on how they should treat their customers. IMO your true target audience was the customer, client, john, whatever. You say that a client is "under the care, guidance, and protection of an expert in a particular field." What a stretch. This threAD is no different than the multitude of other threADs that pose a question not to get an answer but to get their name out there and recieve adulation from admirers. It's like asking why men like BJ's or do guys really prefer BBBJ over CBJ. Other ridiculous threads that pop up on a regular basis are; ...

Originally Posted by Budman

Lana,
I'm not trying to catch any flies. Just pointing out the obvious.

budman, it seems obvious :^) that either a) you are reading a hell of a lot into her post or b) you know exactly what goes on in her mind and why she posts what she posts. to state it is an AD, that she posted it cos she wants adulation, etc. seems to be stretching it a bit far.

if you want to counter her ad, then pls be as specific as possible in your initial posts, otherwise you're liable to leave yourself open to potshots from others who feel, believe, and/or think otherwise.

if you dont believe that what she is saying is anywhere near the truth, debate that.

but, in my opinion, stating as obvious what you believe she's doing does not do that.

it is pretty correct to state "This site is about hookers and johns".
but to me "dressing it up with "titles" is silly" is not so silly. i believe that the words we choose are important and can influence others to understand and/or follow our thought processes as well as influence what some people might think of us.

btw, i dont consider myself a client, customer, john, trick, show audience, session participant, easy mark, ATM or goomba.
i consider myself a consultant in things intimate, pleasurable, and deliteful.
that's my story and i'm going to stick with it.

[ItalianaPrincess]

Pmdelites - I would never consider you a "trick"...maybe a treat! And damn entertaining and informative to boot!

[FishGuy13]

Originally Posted by TheWanderer

I like that post. That's what it's all about for me.
I want to be a client. Customers stand in line at fast food restaurants but clients make reservations and are escorted to their favorite table with their favorite server.
Not meaning to compare this to food service, maybe it's because it is lunchtime.
You know what I mean. I like your philosophy.

I like most people in my younger days worked in fast food and full service restaurants, and at one of the full service places we were taught to refer to the people who walked in with money and walked out full as guests, as in guest in our home, to serve them not just bring their food or be order takers.
In this hobby, I tend to mix up the FBSM Body rub type with full service sex type, it is hard to explain but both can be GFE in my book. Part of what makes a visit GFE for me eye-contact and clean up, part of it I do not know how to put into words.
~~ BudMan sounds like you need to get laid more often, just pointing out the obvious! ... No where in this thread have I seen the key elements of an AD, location, hours, services, rates / specials or even a descrption of looks, just a breif description of attitude and what others thought of levels of service. Perhaps you should invest in a fleshlight?

[hwygnome]

Satisfied is my preferred title.

[Budman]

Originally Posted by FishGuy13

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~~ BudMan sounds like you need to get laid more often, just pointing out the obvious! ... No where in this thread have I seen the key elements of an AD, location, hours, services, rates / specials or even a descrption of looks, just a breif description of attitude and what others thought of levels of service. Perhaps you should invest in a fleshlight?

I get laid as often as I want but thanks for caring.

Let me try to explain what a threAD is since you apparently don't know. It would be a thread started purely to get the providers name on page one of whatever forum they happen to post in. It consists of inane questions or topics that really don't have answers or mean anything but will get some replies so as to keep the said providers name on page one. This will hopefully generate some business for said provider. It is not the same as the ads they place in the provider ad forum. Some threADs that come to mind are "Is it really Tuesday"? or "What's the farthest you've driven for pussy"? I hope this is clear enough for you to understand.

[PoppyToyota]

I came into this hobby with the feeling that as I seen ladies I could become friends with them. I have since been shown the light by a lady and made aware of what I am to most women. It's not exactly what I like but, it is a reality that I have began to accept.

[surfindick]

I am not a big fan of threADs but this would sure be a very boring place if all I read was ISO's and who gives the best bj's in north bumfuck. Everyone who posts here is basically posting an AD about themselves...we are all attention hogs at heart.....

[Tiffani Jameson]

Kayla, it's great to hear from you again.

I think what we have to remember about human interaction is that you only get out of people what they give themselves. You can tell how well a lady treats herself by the way she treats her patrons. Also, you can tell what a man feels of himself by the way he treats the people around them.

To Mr. Budman: Even if this thread was an Ad, pointing it out was supposed to do what exactly? Make the gentlemen not respond? And you constantly being negative on the board when a lady posts is supposed to do what exactly? Make every lady DREAM of you walking through their incall door? Wait with bated breath for your PM's? Let's not forget we are all transparent when we post on boards like these.

[Pistol Man]

If this "hobby" is a business, livelihood, for the lady then she will ensure her client base (yes, client) calls her next time by providing the best service possible and cultivating some kind of relationship (albeit an odd relationship to the non-hobby world) with each person she sees.

I always return calls from clients because I am afraid they will call someone else if I don't. There are myriad professionals locally who can do the same thing I do - but they do not provide the level of service I do. That's why I have had many clients for over 20 years. They could get the same product at Wal-Mart but they cannot get the personalized service except from me.

From a simple business perspective how is a "provider's" business any different? Maybe, that's why I tend to see more mature ladies who have figured this out and really understand the business of pleasure.

Oh well, just the ramblings of an old, but still loveable and randy, fellow in need of some tender loving care.

Pistol Man

OMG - I'm under Tiffany! Is that another name for heaven?

[mpython1]

You nailed it again Pistol Man. I like the way you think.