Home to the oppressed:

[I B Hankering]

Was Weiner just trying to break free from repression, or was it that he could not repress his urge offer free wiener? (Or: Maybe Weiner has an out and that's why he outed his wiener?)


Enough about Weiner, this thread is really about the following two articles, and do you agree?:


New York Is The Least Free State, Study Finds

"New York isn't North Korea, but it's the closest thing you'll find in the U.S. -- at least according to a new report from a libertarian think tank."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._lnk3%7C216048

and

http://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011

[JONBALLS]

well, In upstate NY, city of Rochester, real estate taxs on a 520sq ft , 1 bdrm shoebox with no garage , assesed at 65000. is $3310. or $275.80 mo. I guess people in other states could compare and come to their own conclusion, I know its low cause every lib here says I dont care about people and dont pay enough. Out in the burbs, a modest 1320sq ft will run you approx $6200. or $516. per mo. no wonder after sucking the life out of people while they work to make the mortgage payments, they can finally retire only to have to sell their house and flee out of state cause the tax bill is another mortgage that will never reduce.The city of Rochester has offensive c of o requirements that no other city in the country, or world, has to abide by.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

well, In upstate NY, city of Rochester, real estate taxs on a 520sq ft , 1 bdrm shoebox with no garage , assesed at 65000. is $3310. or $275.80 mo. I guess people in other states could compare and come to their own conclusion, I know its low cause every lib here says I dont care about people and dont pay enough. Out in the burbs, a modest 1320sq ft will run you approx $6200. or $516. per mo. no wonder after sucking the life out of people while they work to make the mortgage payments, they can finally retire only to have to sell their house and flee out of state cause the tax bill is another mortgage that will never reduce.The city of Rochester has offensive c of o requirements that no other city in the country, or world, has to abide by.

Sounds like you upstate New Yorkers need to do less bitching and more hauling out your own trash

I see IB is up to his selective quoting again: Here are a couple from his own link.

''True to their libertarian ways, however, they also said that New York would have scored higher if it had legalized gay marriage.....



....But he thinks lower taxes in other states, plus social freedoms like medical marijuana, may make them more attractive in the future.''

[JONBALLS]

the gay marriage thing is all but done. I could care except that anywhere it is brought before the people for vote, it is shot down.So , they have to ram it through with legislation or try through the stacked courts.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

the gay marriage thing is all but done. I could care except that anywhere it is brought before the people for vote, it is shot down.So , they have to ram it through with legislation or try through the stacked courts.

Well at least we aren't having a Civil War over the discrimination of gays.


The government has no business in discriminating aganist folks. Call me a liberal for that view, I don't give a shit!

[Doove]

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

the gay marriage thing is all but done. I could care except that anywhere it is brought before the people for vote, it is shot down.So , they have to ram it through with legislation or try through the stacked courts.

So your concern over "freedom" begins and ends with your tax bill?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by WTF

I see IB is up to his selective quoting again: Here are a couple from his own link.

''True to their libertarian ways, however, they also said that New York would have scored higher if . . . IF . . . IF . . . it had legalized gay marriage.....

WTF? They didn't, and I didn't bribe anyone to dis NY!

[JONBALLS]

Originally Posted by Doove

So your concern over "freedom" begins and ends with your tax bill?

just one egregious example, you want a 50 page diatribe? explain to me the value Im getting for that investment and well move on .

[Marshall]

Originally Posted by WTF

The government has no business in discriminating aganist folks.

You like Affirmative Action.......

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Marshall

You like Affirmative Action.......

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You need to put a question mark on the end of that.

Unless of course you like talking outchya ass.

You haven't a clue as to what I like.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

The city of Rochester has offensive c of o requirements that no other city in the country, or world, has to abide by.

Explanation, please?

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by WTF

I see IB is up to his selective quoting again: Here are a couple from his own link...

So you'd rather him quote the entire article? Marshall, please note.

[JONBALLS]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Explanation, please?

To begin, every 5 yrs there is mandatory inspection of the property, inside and out.Of course, the emphasis and excuse is for, SAFETY.Ok, lets believe that on its face. If your an owner occupant, there is no such requirement.So, their "safety" worries don't coincide with their "fairness" doctrines.If your gonna set a standard for one , take it across the board. This basic issue boils down to the unwelcome business climate,and their need to constantly institute fees on business and keep a bloated bureaucracy afloat.not to mention basic private property rights that are out the window. you first would have to assume your dealing with people that believe in private property and that is not on the agenda.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

So you'd rather him quote the entire article? Marshall, please note.

This** from one of the articles he linked. You do realize that one person restriction on abortion is another persons restriction on freedom.



**The rankings in the "Freedom in the 50 States" index are highly subjective. For example, on one particularly contested issue, abortion, the authors punted: "Rather than take a stand," they write, they simply "coded the data" on abortion and didn't include it in their final tally.

[Marshall]

Originally Posted by WTF

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You haven't a clue as to what I like.

You voted Odumbo, so you voted for affirmative action and all the other teachings of Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers and Frank Marshall Davis.....you must like it because you voted for it......Ron Paul doesn't vote for affirmative action.....