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Old 06-02-2011, 08:42 AM   #1
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Default obama sells arms to mexican drug cartel

obama sells arms to mexican drug cartel

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A secret operation to run guns across the border to Mexican drug cartels — overseen by U.S. government agents — threatens to become a major scandal for the Obama administration.
The operation, called “Fast and Furious,” was run out of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) office in Phoenix, Arizona. ATF sanctioned the purchase of weapons in U.S. gun shops and tracked the smuggling route to the Mexican border. Reportedly, more than 2,500 firearms were sold to straw buyers who then handed off the weapons to gunrunners under the nose of ATF.But once across the border, the agency seemed to lose track of the weapons. Hundreds of AK-47s and Barrett .50 caliber rifles — favorites of warring drug cartels —made it easily into the hands of some of Mexico’s most ruthless crime organizations.
Gunwalking
In arms trafficking parlance, knowingly allowing smugglers to go about their business is called “gunwalking.” According to ATF whistleblowers, the agency stood by and watched as buyers purchased up to 20 weapons at a time and quickly passed them off to smugglers in nearby parking lots. The hope was to trace the guns into Mexico and bust a major cartel.
In December 2010 “walked” guns were identified as the murder weapons in the death of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry by drug cartels. An anguished ATF agent made the decision to expose the gunwalking operation, after the bureau ignored months of complaints.
ATF agent Brian Terry was killed by a weapon sold to a Mexican drug cartel in Operation Fast and Furious

Agent John Dodson blew the whistle on Fast and Furious in an interview with CBS News on Mar. 3. Dodson had been concerned about the operation since well before the Terry murder. As large numbers of guns freely crossed the border during the early part of 2010, he and other ATF agents noted with alarm the rise in violent crime south of the border. He said he told his supervisors, “The more our guys buy, the more violence we’re having down there.”
Dodson reports that his supervisor replied, “If you’re going to make an omelet, you’re going to scramble some eggs.”
Even some of the gun shop owners expressed discomfort with the number of weapons they were selling to shady customers, but were reportedly told to continue the operation.
Soon after the Dodson interview, the director of the ATF Mexico office, Darren Gil, told CBS that he began to receive disturbing reports of an unusually high number of Phoenix-area guns showing up in Mexican cartel violence. When he began asking questions, Gil discovered that his team had been blocked from computer access to information on Fast and Furious.
Gil questioned officials at U.S. headquarters who told him they were under direct orders from the Department of Justice and that he should say nothing to the Mexican government about the program.
Gil resigned in disgust in December 2010 after watching “seizure after seizure after seizure” of walked guns turned up at violent crime scenes in Mexico.

Congress Steps In
In early 2011, Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA) requested an ATF briefing. The agency refused. Congress has now issued a subpoena summoning ATF to report on the Fast and Furious program.
Meanwhile, U.S. government officials are attempting to deny being involved without actually confirming that the operation took place. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano did not deny allegations concerning the program, but claimed she found out about the operation only after Agent Terry’s murder and had no information regarding the participation of Customs agents.
In the hot seat, Attorney General Eric Holder assigned an inspector general to investigate. President Obama defended Holder twice — on Univision and CNN — stating that neither he nor Holder knew about the operation.
The investigation will result in one of two conclusions, neither positive for the attorney general. The first is that Holder authorized an operation that likely violated U.S., Mexican, and international law and armed dangerous drug traffickers.
The second is that the head of the Justice Department is presiding over rogue staff that decided not to tell their boss about an operation that poses major legal, ethical and diplomatic breaches.
Holder recently issued a memo to Southwest border attorneys ordering them not to permit arms trafficking to Mexican cartels. The memo states, “We should not design or conduct undercover operations which include guns crossing the border.” Logically, a memo advising justice officials not to engage in illegal gunwalking would be unnecessary were it not for a precedent to the contrary.
Some ATF officials have justified the program by claiming the operation could result in prosecutions of individuals higher up the smuggling chain. The ATF issued a press release the day of Dodson’s interview announcing a decision to “review the bureau’s current firearms trafficking strategies…”
Mexican Response
Mexican President Felipe Calderon and his cabinet have been remarkably sanguine about the possibility that guns were trafficked to the archenemy with the encouragement of a foreign government. National Security spokesperson Alejandro Poire refused to accept that the operation existed and reserved comment until after the results of the pending U.S. investigation are released.
Calderon appears unwilling to risk jeopardizing the U.S. government’s political and financial support for his war on drugs by complaining too loudly. His counternarcotics strategy has come under heavy criticism in his country in the last few months due to sharply increasing violence and corruption.
Opposition members of the Mexican Congress, media, and public have ordered an investigation and called the operation a violation of international law and even an act of war. The outrage increased when William Brownfield, the State Department’s head of International Narcotics, praised the program to the Mexican press and confirmed it was “ongoing.” The former ambassador to Colombia and long-time promoter of the drug war scoffed at criticisms, stating that the number of arms that have passed to “uncontrolled destinations” was “limited.”
But for many U.S. and Mexican legislators and citizens even a single weapon allowed to fall into the hands of brutal cartels is one too many. The gunwalking program has increased public skepticism toward the “shared responsibility” that Obama and Calderon have tried to sell in numerous public statements, and fueled the growing popular protests within Mexico that reject the violent drug war model for dealing with illicit narcotics trafficking and consumption.
Major Scandal?
With evasive responses from government agencies, major international implications, and persistent questions of “who knew what, and when,” the Fast and Furious operation could develop into a major scandal for the Obama administration. That will depend on the administration’s response. .
The Obama administration faces a tough choice: either orchestrate a cover-up, as the ATF appears to be doing, or open up the case and accept the consequences.
The gunwalking case tests the integrity of the Obama government. It also further weakens support for a failing drug war strategy. The administration is currently seeking millions more dollars in security aid to Mexico under the Merida Initiative.
The best path forward is to fully investigate the operation and punish those responsible — no matter how high up the blame goes. It is also time to end support for a war on drugs that becomes more entrenched and more violent every day.
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I guess this is what Comrade Hillary was referring to when, in Mexico City, in March 2009, she said: “Our inability to prevent weapons from being illegally smuggled across the border to arm these criminals causes the deaths of police officers, soldiers, and civilians.”

Below are pictures of some of the weapons confiscated from the Mexican drug cartels. This past Saturday, I went to Walmart and a few other gun shops in the city. I couldn’t find where any of them stocked and sold any rocket launchers and hand grenades—even as fishing supplies. After all, it’s against the law. I wonder if Comrade Hillary could let the ATF know about these ma and pa places that sell these dangerous rocket launchers and hand grenades so the ATF could properly shut them down.

The Barrett M107 .50 caliber rifle (pictured top right) has a maximum effective range of 1.25 miles and a maximum range of 4.25 miles. Attached optics/electro-optics support all weather, day/night rapid-fire, direct fire missions. Utilizing dual-purpose – armor penetrating/ incendiary – ammunition, a trained shooter can literally reach out and “touch” someone whether they are walking on some remote hillside in the Arizona desert, sitting in a Hummer or sitting in their office behind cinderblock walls. The M2HB .50 caliber machine gun (pictured top left) in the picture below is just as devastating a weapon. BTW, Walmart doesn’t stock or special order either weapon.

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The Barrett M107 .50 caliber rifle

I'm happy with my Parker Hale M85, but I'd like to give that baby a try....wonder what the MOA is?

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While such weapons do fascinate me, I don't need one. My point is that such weapons are not readily available on the market, and for Comrade Hillary and company to insinuate otherwise is disingenuous. Gun stores in Arizona are not selling hand grenades and rocket launchers to Mexican drug cartels.

Like I said, I personally do not need such weapons. Besides, humping the M2 and tripod around in my younger, military days will always be as memorable as the times I actually fired it. I'll be satisfied with my memories.

Here's a chart with the specs on the M107's MOA.
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While such weapons do fascinate me, I don't need one. My point is that such weapons are not readily available on the market, and for Comrade Hillary and company to insinuate otherwise is disingenuous. Gun stores in Arizona are not selling hand grenades and rocket launchers to Mexican drug cartels.
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Like I said, I personally do not need such weapons. you don't need hookers either, but........Besides, humping the M2 and tripod around in my younger, military days will always be as memorable as the times I actually fired it. I'll be satisfied with my memories. having to sleep next to the rifle also brings back fond memories......

Here's a chart with the specs on the M107's MOA.
mmmmmmmmmmm.......do you think they'll let me do some "target" practice in Houston? HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! Somebody might have to call a tow-truck! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
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So what did Obama and Holder know and when did they know it? Seriously, I heard about this about 3 months ago and find it fascinating that it hasn't gotten any major airplay. If it had happened on Bush's watch, this would be the lead story for a week on all the major networks.

Last I heard you not only have to register the .50 Cal gun but also the ammo. I'm surprised the secret service allowed them to do this since is pretty common knowledge they don't like the POTUS to speak in public with any clear lines of sight of any reasonable distance due to this weapon. If you saw the POTUS Limo get stuck recently, did anyone notice how thick the door armor was when somebody got out?
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Mexico seizes 154 rifles from buried cartel cache
Associated Press, 06.03.11, 12:32 PM EDT

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico's Defense Department says soldiers found a large buried cache of weapons apparently stockpiled by a drug cartel, including 154 rifles and shotguns and over 92,000 rounds of ammunition.

The cache includes mortar shells, rocket-propelled grenades, dozens of assault rifles and two bows.

Army Gen. Edgar Luis Villegas said Friday the weapons were found in "a subterranean stockpile" at a ranch near the northern city of Monclova this week.

It included more than 4,600 magazines for rifles.

Villegas says the weapons apparently belonged to the Zetas cartel.

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Toll reaches 226 bodies found in Mexico mass graves
Jun 2, 2011

DURANGO (Mexico) - THE number of bodies recovered from mass graves in this northern Mexican city rose to 226, public security officials said on Wednesday, updating the toll from 218.

Since the first grave was found on April 11, the military has unearthed six such sites. Last week, they came upon a house in an upper middle class neighbourhood filled with six more bodies and on Tuesday, they pulled out two more bodies.

A state public security official confirmed to AFP that '226 bodies have now been exhumed.' Authorities have yet to attribute the killings to a specific drug cartel.

The number of bodies found in Durango is the largest in a single location in Mexico, surpassing the town of San Fernando in nearby Tamaulipas state where 183 bodies were found spread across 40 graves in killings attributed to the Los Zetas drug gang.

A judge meanwhile on Wednesday ordered the arrest of 73 people for alleged links to those deaths.

The suspects had previously been placed under provisional arrest pending the presentation of evidence by the prosecution before the judge. -- AFP

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