Are there posted minimum guidelines for Review Credit?

[TinMan]

I know there are several primers out there on how to write a good review, but I can't find a set of guidelines on what someone must include in a review in order to receive PA credit. I'm seeing an increasing number of reviews that deviate from what I've come to know as standard practice, but who knows...maybe what I expect as a "minimum standard" is obsolete.



Any consideration of posting a "minimum guidelines" sticky at the top of each Review forum?

[chipper]

I expect all of the blanks to be filled in. I will not give credit to a review that omits the fee. I will accept the $$ but will not accept see web site or between us. We ask for the amount and I expect for it to be provided. If you receive a special or if you are grandfathered then just put the normal rate in the blank.

[TinMan]

Thanks, Chipper. Any thoughts on either posting one of the existing primers, or creating a new one that can be "stickied" at the top of the Review forums? We are seeing a lot of the new members committing the errors that more seasoned reviewers learned to avoid years ago. For example, madddog's admonition to "put the lady's name in the title of the review".

[Torito]

I have been searching for this off and on for a few hours. I knew that it existed somewhere.

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=24105
Posted by St.C
2) You may earn FREE Premium Access by contributing to the site with reviews. Reviews can be described as form-style templates that the user completes to summarize the details of his encounter for the readers. Each field, such as contact info, physical appearance, etc. is to be filled out thoroughly by the reviewer. The "Rest of the Story" field is intended to be used by the reviewer to complete a more detailed account of the important aspects of his appointment. This can range from the ease of scheduling, to the intimate details regarding the provider and your overall experience with her from start to finish. You may be as brief or as detailed as you feel comfortable with, but please understand for the review to bring value to the readers you should include enough details necessary to give them a good picture of what took place between you and the provider. The more details you include to help the reader make an informed decision will improve the value of your review and be appreciated by all.



That seems pretty clear to me.

I personally don't consider it to be a review without the fee. All the other info is needed to make a decision. Since I don't have unlimited funds, fee is also necessary for me. I don't find things like "between us," "nunya business," etc helpful. When I see "see ad" or something similar I wonder if the writer does not know what he paid.

I understand how some items like hair length/color, cup size, height, etc may not be absolutley accurate, and barely remembered. I have to make a conscious effort going in to make me notice and remember details because of excitement. But cost? Maybe I am just a tightass, but I always know what I paid.

When the fee is some negociated amount or reduced for a super-regular customer, I think the standard fee is appropriate to show. That is what the rest of us will expect to pay.

In the past I have given credit even without fee listed because I thought everyone else did and I chose not to be a hardass. After reviewing the post on PA and learning that I am not the Lone Ranger in feeling that fee is necessary, I will no longer approve a review without it.

When I have rejected a review, if the writer has wanted to upgrade, such as adding ROS, etc, I have done it for him and requested credit. When I reject for no fee, I would do the same.

Torito

[alaine]

I am new here in the Dallas area...trying to set up showcase and profile but can't figure out where to go to complete profile and post pics.
Thanks, Alaine

[Torito]

Originally Posted by alaine

I am new here in the Dallas area...trying to set up showcase and profile but can't figure out where to go to complete profile and post pics.
Thanks, Alaine

I will PM you the info you need.
Not posting it here as this thread has a different topic.

Torito

[Torito]

I received a list of related post. Thank Bushaholic for doing the digging.

All are about writing good reviews. The last one, by JohnnyBax is about the specific answer to your question. Look at the examples in his post. Notice the last one and all the red text. It is good for all of us to read this again. I, as well as others, have been awarding credit many times when the review did not qualify due to lack of filling in the easy blanks. I am repeating myself, but I think that every guy knows what he paid.

KosherCowboy - Sample Reviews
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=5220

Chevalier - Writing Better Reviews
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=5101

Ragnars - Newbie Guide to Writing Reviews
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=5028

Bdhoughtery’s - Review Writing 101
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=5104

Big C - How to Write a Review
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=5123

JohnnyBax - Check this out if you want PA credit
http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=69938

[surfindick]

I think these are all excellent recommendations...we in Dallas have not been as diligent in review approvals as our counterparts. That will be changing. I am going to copy JohnnyBax's thread to the Dallas independent review forum..

[Rcoop361]

Also in ST. C's post
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=24105

REVIEW APPROVAL

Reviews are considered for Premium Access based on filling out each of the fields completely, giving an adequate physical description, and providing sufficient details of the encounter in the Rest of the Story field. Reviews which do not meet the criteria for Premium Access credit can generally be classified into one of the following categories.

1) Duplicate, Misfire, or Incomplete
2) Missing Contact Info
3) Inadequate Physical Description
4) Insufficient details in The Rest of the Story portion of the review
5) Strip Club review with no mention of extras
6) Review posted in "Other Reviews" forum
7) Repeat review of the Same Provider *
8) NCNS review (we appreciate the intel, but since no activities took place, no credit can be issued)
9) Review is based on an experience that took place over 30 days ago

I don't see Exact Fee mentioned and based on recent changes required by providers to NOT post activities or rates in Ads, but they are still able to put them in their showcases (which the rate fields are not shown to non-members or just registered members, log out and see for yourself), I don't feel putting "see showcase" with a valid link to it as incomplete (as that would give accurate current rates, with any specials there may be) and should suffice in reviews where only PA members can access it. As I see posting these is the same as Leaking PA info!!
Also the Activities line should be moved to inside ROS.

[TinMan]

I wouldn't necessarily interpret St. Chris's lack of specificity on the subject as agreement on your POV. He is not omniscient, and very well may not have thought it was an issue that needed to be addressed since the standard practice over the past 12 years of the Dallas review boards has been to include the fee in the review.

Damn near every long-timer and Mod commenting on this subject has been trying to explain this to you, yet you continue to focus only on the statements you think conform to your point of view without any consideration of any facts or suggestions that don't support you.

Enough already. Pay for premium access, write the reviews the way you want to, and quit complaining about a practice that has been in place for over a decade. Hopefully, those new members that care about accomodating the requests of the majority will start complying so that you become an outlier.

[Rcoop361]

When the new requirement to not post rates or activities in Ads was started what was the the first action, the mods had to go through and put them in private tags, meaning to me that it was meant only for PA members to see, so this appears to be a change that was wanted!!

[Torito]

Originally Posted by Rcoop361

When the new requirement to not post rates or activities in Ads was started what was the the first action, the mods had to go through and put them in private tags, meaning to me that it was meant only for PA members to see, so this appears to be a change that was wanted!!

Rates and sexual terms are not allowed in ads. All the mods spent many hours private tagging rates and sexual terms including abbreviations IN ADS. We were not tagging those terms in reviews, discussions, etc. The limitation is only in Ads.

Rates and sexual terms are OK and desireable in reviews. No one seems to be objecting to naming the activities in their reviews. Why the price?

On a personal note, I am not able to understand what is the resistance to giving this useful info to other members. It is easier and faster to type the number than to say see ad, see website, see Showcase, or something very cute. Posting the $ saves time for the writer and the reader. That is just me, not an ECCIE position.

Torito

[Rcoop361]

Torito it seems to me that removing from the Ads may have been just a first step to removing that info from non-members & just registered members, being if you sign out then view a showcase that same info is only available to PA members. Although the reasoning for that change was never really explained , which leaves me to have to assume. But it does seem to prevent the info from being directly in the open for all to see. Now I actually have my own reason for not posting the rate , but it does seem like we are headed to making that info PA only! Sorry for the delayed response had a appointment I had to go to.

[Torito]

Originally Posted by Rcoop361

Torito it seems to me that removing from the Ads may have been just a first step to removing that info from non-members & just registered members, being if you sign out then view a showcase that same info is only available to PA members. Although the reasoning for that change was never really explained , which leaves me to have to assume. But it does seem to prevent the info from being directly in the open for all to see. Now I actually have my own reason for not posting the rate , but it does seem like we are headed to making that info PA only! Sorry for the delayed response had a appointment I had to go to.

Here is my last contribution on this subject.

You list three times that "it seems, seems like, seem" and "assume" concerning issues that you wish to debate.

The removal of $ and activities from ads was a complete process. It was not a step.

All of us are free to assume anything we like. That does not make it fact.

When something "seems" a certain way to me, that is my perception, not necessarily what is real. We are not " headed to making that info PA only!" The changes that were being made involved Provider Advertising only, and are complete.

The rules are what they are. I did not make them. Since I have agreed to do the duties of a moderator, it is my job to follow the rules in the best way that I can. I have not been following this one rule, but after researching this issue a little further and communicating with other moderators, that will change. It appears that this is true with some other moderators as well. We have seen that is this thread.

The upside of this thread is that:
1. It has prompted staff to take a closer look at the way we have been handling this issue and get clarification.
2. It has brought the issue up to members and given clarification of the rule.

This horse has been dead for quite some time now. I will not continue to beat the poor, bloody, broken body. There are some pending reviews I must process.

Torito