Date Check versus P411

[chrissy]

Originally Posted by MsElena

P411, Date-Check and RS2000 are popular in different parts of the US. You just need to find which one works best for you.

Myself, I have the luck with P411, but not I'm a huge fan of paying for my visiting ads. Date-Check isn't a site that brings me a ton of business, so I don't pay for it. I've always had the mind set that a verifying site such as the ones listed above shouldn't charge the ladies for being able to verify a client such as Date-Check does. I can understand paying for certain perks of the sites to a point though.

Always screen no matter what site a person signs up for.

I agree ..+1
In alot of places escorts .com and eros and even backpage are the most popular places to advertise, and those cost no matter what!..But Ive had a fair amoutn thru both places so far...I only see a couple of gents in the places I visit so I try my best to make each visit count in every aspect...Either way you go make sure you screen carefully..

[delightfuldusty]

I also use both. I get about the same amount of dates from both and both are easy to use to screen. And while men do pay to be members of datecheck they are also screened. They have to be referred by a member of datecheck or they are verified through their employment.

[Fastcars1966]

But Gina I have a p411 account because a provider recommended me and you sent me an invite with a free trial. I never filled out an application. Did you recently change the way you set up accounts?

Originally Posted by GinaXXX

Actually, you can get set up with a client account on DateCheck in about 30 secs, if one provider listed on DC will click on a link saying she will vouch for you. No human being will even see your application, let alone verify your information, if you go that route. Easy, peasy!

To be perfectly honest I've done it more than once, after setting up a fake provider account with DC and then vouching myself in as a client. I feel that it's my business to know exactly what the competition is doing, and to figure out how we can do it better.

I assure you this is much different than how P411 verifies clients, so I'm not comfortable being lumped together like that.

Sincerely,
Gina

www.preferred411.com

[Fastcars1966]

I think that is due to the location of this board. If it were popular where DC is you might.

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

You dont see the owners of DateCheck, RS2000, SipSap, TER, etc. on here posting and explaining their system and way of doing business. That should tell you a lot.

[Chica Chaser]

Originally Posted by Fastcars1966

I think that is due to the location of this board. If it were popular where DC is you might.

Perhaps, but everyone of them are nationwide boards. They could just as easily be as forthcoming with information and participation here if they so choose.

[Fastcars1966]

This is true, but it reflects that on the profile. You are able to see if DC validated them or another provider, it also gives you a link to the provider that did the validation. Let me say that I wish P411 had a stronger presence in my area because you do provide a great service. When I travel to certain areas like Texas then I use P411, RS2k when up north in Chicago.

Originally Posted by GinaXXX

Actually, you can get set up with a client account on DateCheck in about 30 secs, if one provider listed on DC will click on a link saying she will vouch for you. No human being will even see your application, let alone verify your information, if you go that route. Easy, peasy!

Sincerely,
Gina

www.preferred411.com

[Fastcars1966]

I agree.

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

Perhaps, but everyone of them are nationwide boards. They could just as easily be as forthcoming with information and participation here if they so choose.

[GinaXXX]

But Gina I have a p411 account because a provider recommended me and you sent me an invite with a free trial. I never filled out an application. Did you recently change the way you set up accounts?

Really? That's funny, because I can see that you filled out an application.

04/04/2011 10:12:07 AM: System: Client Submitted New Membership Application to Preferred411 - Short Form

You gave us two provider references, as we require for the free trial, who both got back to us and gave you Okays.

04/04/2011 10:16:41 AM: System: (Pxxxx) Gave an Okay To xxxxx - Okay Request sent through New Client Application
04/05/2011 09:11:21 PM: System: (Pxxxxx) Gave an Okay xxxxx - Okay Request sent through New Client Application

After which, the PERSON handling your application activated your membership. Her name is Lori, and I assure you she is very thorough as anyone who has dealt with her can attest. She has worked with me full time+ since 1998.

04/05/2011 09:16:47 PM: Lori E: Standard Email Sent To Client
04/05/2011 09:16:42 PM: Lori E: Clients Account Has Been Activated

We do NOT have an automatic vouching system that allows one provider account to vouch in a client member instantly, with no human being ever being involved in the process. I am offended when anyone suggests that I would conduct my business in such a manner. This is my life, and my livelihood... and I was a provider once. I take my job seriously... whether you like me, or not.

Sincerely,
Gina

www.preferred411.com

[tia travels]

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[tia travels]

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

Perhaps, but everyone of them are nationwide boards. They could just as easily be as forthcoming with information and participation here if they so choose.

Perhaps they don't feel the need to have to defend themselves consistently ...nor have to sell us on their product.

There really shouldn't be this much argument about which is better. It really IS location location location. Each site is good for its own reasons and because of the areas each covers. And each site is helpful to the women and men who join because of their geographical location. It's just a matter of preference.

Of course the folks in TEXAS are going to love P411 more because the majority of its clientele & ladies are from TX and the owner's been doing P.R. on boards that have a stronghold in TX...so that is mainly their "best" territory (so to speak). Date-Check is nationwide. Though it may not be super strong in one area in particular, it's equally strong across the cities it does cover.

[Fastcars1966]

LOL Really now and what is my handle on P411, because it is different from here? Those dates are not accurate I set up my P411 account 3 years ago not this month, and you sent me the invite through email to join or at least it appeared to come from you stating that I was highly recommened and you were willing to give me a trial membership with a link to set up my account. I did not fill out an application. I am quite perplexed, and yes I like you quite well actually. I think you have me confused with another client. The intention was not to offend you, and I do appologize for that, but when ask which is better in my area I have no choice but to say DC simply because your site has a fraction of the providers that DC has.

Originally Posted by GinaXXX

Really? That's funny, because I can see that you filled out an application.

04/04/2011 10:12:07 AM: System: Client Submitted New Membership Application to Preferred411 - Short Form

You gave us two provider references, as we require for the free trial, who both got back to us and gave you Okays.

04/04/2011 10:16:41 AM: System: (Pxxxx) Gave an Okay To xxxxx - Okay Request sent through New Client Application
04/05/2011 09:11:21 PM: System: (Pxxxxx) Gave an Okay xxxxx - Okay Request sent through New Client Application

After which, the PERSON handling your application activated your membership. Her name is Lori, and I assure you she is very thorough as anyone who has dealt with her can attest. She has worked with me full time+ since 1998.

04/05/2011 09:16:47 PM: Lori E: Standard Email Sent To Client
04/05/2011 09:16:42 PM: Lori E: Clients Account Has Been Activated

We do NOT have an automatic vouching system that allows one provider account to vouch in a client member instantly, with no human being ever being involved in the process. I am offended when anyone suggests that I would conduct my business in such a manner. This is my life, and my livelihood... and I was a provider once. I take my job seriously... whether you like me, or not.

Sincerely,
Gina

www.preferred411.com

[GinaXXX]

I think you have me confused with another client.

That is possible.... and if we can clear up what account we are talking about, I will come and apologize if I'm wrong.
I HAVE been wrong before.... once, in 1987.

I did not fill out an application.

Regardless of whether you were sent an Invite by me or not (it's quite possible that you were).... you would have had to fill out an application. Your client id is made up of information only you could have provided, we would not have been able to set you up without you creating a client id, on the application.

when ask which is better in my area I have no choice but to say DC simply because your site has a fraction of the providers that DC has.

I really don't care if a person prefers one site over another. Everyone has their own opinion and that's not a big deal. However, I really don't like my site being described as having the same client verification process.... when I know what we go through when screening clients, and I know what DC does.

Perhaps they don't feel the need to have to defend themselves consistently

It would be cheaper, and easier, for me to set up an automated "screening" system, and ignore all questions, concerns and complaints. Trust me, some days I'm tempted! But I'm way too much of a control freak to be able to do that. So you're stuck with me.

Sincerely,
Gina

www.preferred411.com

[Fastcars1966]

Originally Posted by GinaXXX

That is possible.... and if we can clear up what account we are talking about, I will come and apologize if I'm wrong.
I HAVE been wrong before.... once, in 1987.

Regardless of whether you were sent an Invite by me or not (it's quite possible that you were).... you would have had to fill out an application. Your client id is made up of information only you could have provided, we would not have been able to set you up without you creating a client id, on the application.

Yes I know what a client I.D. is and yes when I set up my account I did provide some information to create my client I.D., but I did not list references since you solicited me for my account and blame I was in. Now if you call that a screening process / application process then so be it. What scares me is that you would create a bogus computer log to show that I was screened by Lori on 4.4.11-4.5.11 which is nothing but fabrication.
Client Id is made up of;
First Name
DAY of birth
First letter of city you were born
Last four on anything you carry in wallet

Not sure I will continue to do business with someone that would go to that extreme to save face.

[GinaXXX]

yes when I set up my account I did provide some information to create my client I.D.

So who did you provide that info to?? Santa Claus? Or onto the application via the link TO THE APPLICATION in the Invite?

you were willing to give me a trial membership with a link to set up my account.

Anyway, I have a sneaking suspicion that you don't really have a P411 account, but had gotten an Invite from me at some point, which is from where you are basing this "information". Otherwise you would have let me take a look at your account, as I've requested more than once, and address your accusations.

Or maybe there is some other reason you don't want me to take a look at your account (maybe it's Revoked? Maybe you aren't telling the truth?)

Regardless, I apologize for jumping to conclusions on thinking the other account was yours, IF it's not. We don't have many clients in Knoxville (less than 40), who have Okays from more than one provider you've reviewed (only 1), but I'm not perfect and certainly could be mistaken.

Anyway, this is getting pretty silly and I'm sorry to have said anything, once again. I know better than to step into a pile of drama like this, and I'm embarrassed to have gotten involved.

Always,
Gina

[Fastcars1966]

Maybe I’m just paranoid of retaliations. I also told you that I don't use it in Knoxville due to lack of providers in this area. I hate that we started all this drama as well. None of the Okays that I have are from TN. This all started because I said that P411, and DC are essentially the same, that women we see validate us either through Okays, or References what ever you want to call it. The more we have the easier it is to get a date.