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02-14-2010, 07:44 AM
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Woman And Pics: What's The Deal?
I recently had a visit with a well-regarded touring provider. She just had a six hour photoshoot in NYC with a very well-known pro photog (who, BTW, is way, way cheaper than the photog of interest in those other threads) and she showed me her favorites shots (out of 300). She remarks that what attracts guys is different than what women look for in their photographs.
Since the meter was running I didn't ask for an explanation, but the question remains with me.
I am thinking that her remark was based on the stereotypical assumption that guys only want titillating shots of female body parts (so what's wrong with that?) but women view them as a higher, more ethereal form of expression.
She is a lovely woman who is a wonderful, expressive model and she reported that the session made her feel special. But I am puzzled by her comment and would like clarification. Will someone become her surrogate and explain what women desire from their photographs that men don't see?
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02-14-2010, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by awl4knot
Since the meter was running I didn't ask for an explanation, but the question remains with me.
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lmao... : : ...at least you didn't have to look at her entire shoe and/or handbag collection as well... : laughing1:
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02-14-2010, 10:36 AM
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I asked about the shoot, both out of mild curiosity and to show that I remembered our discussions, and she only showed me about five of the hundreds taken.
Now I have this image of semi-nude woman who is deliriously happy sitting at her laptop showing me scores of photos of her shoe collection as my chemically induced excitement dissipates, all while the meter is running. But I bet when she finished she would be all revved up, but then it might be too late.
The handbag thing actually happened with a civilian a couple of weeks ago. She had photos of her closet(s) on her I-phone and included were some of her handbags, artfully posed for some occasion. We skipped the luggagge collection. This what happens when you spend too much time in high end watering holes looking for love.
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02-14-2010, 11:28 AM
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Being in this lifestyle long enough I've learned that pics don't count for much. Especially since some of the most beautiful women hide their face for discretion. I look more at their profiles for ethnicity, height, weight and tats....oh yeah and price.
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02-14-2010, 11:40 AM
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I think you missed my point
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Being in this lifestyle long enough I've learned that pics don't count for much. Especially since some of the most beautiful women hide their face for discretion. I look more at their profiles for ethnicity, height, weight and tats....oh yeah and price.
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The photos clearly show her striking facial features. My question isn't about the commercial aspects of website photos. It's about the aesthetic or emotional considerations of beautiful women and their photographs. It's about what do they care about and why?
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02-14-2010, 12:04 PM
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Here's 75% of what I want to see. The other 25% is a boob shot but I can't use photobucket for that.
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02-14-2010, 12:37 PM
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I would suppose that men look for:
- A nice figure that suits their tastes: skinny, petite, curvy, athletic, long legs;
- Well endowed;
- Great skin;
- Well groomed;
- Beautiful hair, again to their tastes: short, curly, long and flowing and so on;
- Tattoos and metal or lack there of;
- Personal style and demeanor of the photo;
- A beautiful face if her face is exposed and if not a nice smile.
Personally, I cannot get attracted to someone that doesn’t smile and is grouchy. I would also think that women look at the same qualities in the photographs they choose for their site. But maybe I’m wrong.
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02-14-2010, 02:18 PM
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I haven't had a professional photoshoot yet but these are the two things I thought of when taking my new pictures for the first time....
1. I wanted to feel sexy when taking the pics, this was easy because my friend took them so I felt more comfortable.
2. I wanted them to look like ME, no airbrushing or hiding anything
But I think all ladies are different when it comes to pics, we can be very picky!
Kisses Claudia
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02-14-2010, 02:37 PM
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I would suppose that men look for:
- Well endowed;
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I'll leave PJ for a comeback on that one!
Me, I just like big tits on my women!
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02-14-2010, 03:16 PM
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- Well endowed;
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Her chest size has nothing to do with for me to be attracted, its all how a woman carries herself, but I must say I am only attracted to slim, petite ladies, just can't do big or BBW, I have no dis-respect for those whom are, just not sexually attracted to them, I guess I am classified as a spinner lover.
Being an engineer by trade, I have a simple little formula that I used, thou not designed by me personally, it works very well for my selection. Now I know that sounds cruel, but again I am a numbers type of guy.
Pictures can be rewarding or very deceiving, that's why I love candid style pictures, not professional quality pictures, of course it does not hurt to have a mixture of both. I want to hear if they are recent or not, nothing like seeing the so called "Recent Pictures" of a lady that were taken in 1998 and still call "Recent". LOL
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02-14-2010, 04:40 PM
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I made this list earlier today, and posted it in another thread. Thought it would be useful here:
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I look for several things on a lady's website:
1. Her stats. Since I'm short, I want a lady who will physically "fit" my body. And since I'm not so well-endowed, I have some trouble with BBW. If you hide the fact that a lady is BBW, that may cause me a problem. I like small breasts (most guys don't), so I like to see breast size, too.
2. Nature of pics. Most ladies try to post sensual pictures. That's fine, but sometimes they can "hide" things a guy should know up front. Personally I like to see the sensual photos, but I also look for "porn" photos. I like to be able to see if a lady has a full bush or is bare. I want to see unadulterated breast photos.
3. Don't hide the details. Pics can hide a lot!! A lot of ladies who have ink or metal will hide those in the pics. They seem to think there is a bias against them. If there is a bias (and I'm not admitting there is), just hiding it will only turn off a guy who has that bias when he discovers it. For me, it is a definite turn-on, and might make me choose one lady over another, especially if I can see the art.
4. Cost of companionship time. It is a waste of my time to go to her website, only to be met with a statement that if I want to know the cost, call. I've now wasted time going through her site, and supposed to waste more time by trying to connect just to find out her rates? I never call. Rates should be clear and be posted where they can't be missed. (BTW, one of my pet peeves is that you can find different rates for the same lady all over the 'net. When I contact her, I always refer to the lowest rate [saw your ad on ECCIE, or whatever]; but am always afraid I'll be "blackballed" for shorting her.)
5. Outcalls/Incalls. Due to NCNS experiences, I now do only Outcalls. If a lady doesn't post her availability for Outcalls on her website, I pass.
6. Contact Preference. I wil call, email, text, PM. I will not IM. Please tell me your preference so we can speed up the process. (I prefer email, but I'm from an older generation.)
7. Availability. Let me know on the website the hours of the week you work. If I'm looking for a weekend day and you only work week days, then I'd like to know that up front. If you are touring, please post this on your site.
8. If you are a P411 member, please post a link on your site to your P411 Page.
9. Discounts. If you give discounts to P411 members (or other such site) please post it also.
10. Please post a FAQs page. This is where you list your unique preferences. We all have them. It is much better for me to meet yours when I can read them in advance.
11. Gifts Page. Go ahead and post this if you want. I generally don't even look at it. There has been some discussion about this on the Boards, with convergent views about this. Most "gift" suggestions I see cost almost as much as a session. Seems a little skewed to me, but that may be just me.
What I spend for a lady's time may not seem like a lot of money to her, but I assure you, it is a lot of money to me. And I think most hobbyists exercise their hobby as they are financially able to, which means it is a lot of money to them also. So, I want a lot of information--as much as possible--up front so I can make an informed decision about which lady I want for companionship.
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02-15-2010, 07:38 AM
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I never knew there was much of a difference...
When I'm taking sexy photos for marketing purposes, I do what feels good and what appeals to me. After all, my intent is to attract those that are like minded , but beyond that, I just have never had that thought process... Mind you, my marketing style has evolved over the years, but always reflects who I am as a person, as well as the type of service I am offering. I've never seen it as a female vs. male thing (personally).
Photos taken for other purposes, be it personal glamors, family, artistic, edgy...they have unique perspective and energy. As with writing, you shoot for the intended audience. If that intended audience is ONLY me, it stands to reason that I may not shoot/choose the same photos entirely that I do for marketing purposes, but then again some of my all-time personal favorites are photos I took for my website.
I realize everyone is unique in how they choose to market themselves, and am certainly curious to how the conversation would have gone had the OP had the time to follow up with his companion. I always appreciate the variety of approaches out there, and love that we are in a business that allows such diversity.
All my best,
xoMegan
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02-15-2010, 02:59 PM
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I like full nudes but I don't care for gyno shots. Not that I mind if some lower lip shows but a lady holding her v open doesn't entice me at all.
My taste in women is so universal that about the only strong physical no-no's are bbw or even "chunky". Metal is also a turn-off. Facial or gyno metal are deal breakers and nipple metal is only acceptable if the lady is fabulous otherwise. Tattoo's in moderation are ok but not an enticement.
Having said all that, a photo or photo series that tell the whole story is very helpful and if the lady is a good model, that's even better because then the photo is alluring instead of just a catalog shot.
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02-16-2010, 06:35 PM
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Taking a guess she was talking about what she wants to see of her own photographs verses what she thinks men want to see of photographs of her.
I can only go by what women have told me when shooting. That actually is different depending on the woman and he mood she is in. Some want to look sexy and feel special, some want to be transformed into a vision they have of themselves(that can be hard as hell to meet), then some want sultry, exotic, ... including down right sluty at times.
So in honesty they do at times want to see the same things of themselves as guys want to see. Guys also want to see different stuff.
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