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Old 03-11-2025, 11:16 PM   #1
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Default Trump has the cards
Per Trump's card discussions, he has the cards to stop the Russian incursion of Ukraine and remove Russia from the land they have taken. Will he do it ? No because he is afraid of WW3. No one trusts Russia because they are evil.

Putin invaded Ukraine anticipating a moderate response from the west. He guessed WW3 would not begin. As the west is not evil.

Supposedly Putin is having a hard time finding troops. Eventually he will run out.

Maybe this is the time to confront evil without WW3. Let them wilter until they retreat.
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Old 03-12-2025, 04:03 AM   #2
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Kind of between a rock and a hard place here. It's best to just keep supporting Ukraine and honor our agreement as long as Ukraine is up for it. Giving in to Putin and breaking the Budapest Memorandum will tell the world that the US can't be trusted. Russia will be emboldened to attack other countries including NATO members. Then the shit hits the fan. You think we are spending a lot now? Wait until we have to mobilize and fight to protect a NATO member under attack.
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Old 03-12-2025, 05:09 AM   #3
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Yeah . . .he holds Aces and face cards when it comes to negotiating international stuff, but . . .

I am hoping that the House and Senate Republicans will get behind his legislative agenda as a disciplined voting block.
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Maybe trump is concerned about the loss of life even you don't care. Being a veteran, it was about preventing war, saving lives and having "blood in your eyes and veins in your teeth."

The age old question, do you want to be the last man killed in a war before peace is declared?
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... And yet it's Trump - negotiating a peaceful agreement between
Ukraine and Russia... ... ... Something that He has
been working on since Day #1 of His Presidency.

Even with "all the cards" let's give the sides a few more days
to hammer out a good agreement.

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His idea of peaceful agreement is giving up Ukrainian land and resources to Russia. That is not acceptable. Taking of land and resources takes away what makes Ukraine, well Ukraine. Trump is on Putin's side on this and gives zero fucks about Ukraine.
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... And yet it's Trump - negotiating a peaceful agreement between
Ukraine and Russia... ... ... Something that He has
been working on since Day #1 of His Presidency.

Even with "all the cards" let's give the sides a few more days
to hammer out a good agreement.

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I was promised that this would be ended in 1 day. Guess he didn't have the cards
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His idea of peaceful agreement is giving up Ukrainian land and resources to Russia. That is not acceptable. Taking of land and resources takes away what makes Ukraine, well Ukraine. Trump is on Putin's side on this and gives zero fucks about Ukraine.
... ... "Not acceptable" to Whom??
Ukraine has already agreed to it...

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Maybe trump is concerned about the loss of life even you don't care. Being a veteran, it was about preventing war, saving lives and having "blood in your eyes and veins in your teeth."

The age old question, do you want to be the last man killed in a war before peace is declared?
Stupid spell check....
AND NOT HAVING BLOOD IN YOUR EYES AND VEINS IN YOUR TEETH.
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The whole day one thing,


You're one of those....
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The whole day one thing,


You're one of those....

He said it. Just like he promised lower prices on day 1. 50% energy cost reduction beginning immediately. Drill baby drill...for crude we don't refine and betraying all our allies.
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... ... "Not acceptable" to Whom??
Ukraine has already agreed to it...

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News to me, have a source?
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News to me, have a source?

Maybe they'll do like we did, agree and sign. Then wait for the rest of Europe to tool up their arms production while the American MIC falls due to lack of foreign purchasers and then just rip up the agreement like we did the Budapest Memorandum.
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