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Today, 06:01 AM
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#31
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Originally Posted by royamcr
Yep, Biden was blamed for inflation as soon as he took office. Trump gets the same blame now, it's on his watch. Especially since this involved military and federal ATC. That definitely is pinned on him. Instead he is renaming water.
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Short memory? Bidens first year economy wasn't to bad. After his stupid policies started to take effect, everything start to nose dive. Wasn't 2022 when everyones investments tanked
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Today, 07:22 AM
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#32
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Head of the FAA interview clearly stated traffic was not low. Staffing was low but not unacceptable. She also stated her concern to Congress about not enough controllers. Maybe Biden intended to cross train some of the 81,000 IRS agents he wanted to hire. After nine days its Trumps fault right
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You’re not refuting anything I said even though you clearly think you are. Try reading and comprehending. It’ll take you far and you’ll get that the manager chose to have one person working because he believed traffic volume was low enough to have one person rather than two. It had nothing to do with not having enough ATCs.
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Today, 08:00 AM
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#33
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... Then, obviously the manager made the WRONG decision.
Should've had two people there. ... Perhaps the tragedy
don't happen IF they are properly staffed.
... It's NOT complicated, 1blackman1. ... No need to make it so.
... And perhaps the FAA's hiring practices - DEI and what-not
has added to the rising number of "near crash" misses that
they've had in the last two years or so.
... Trump's not wrong about this.
#### Salty
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Today, 08:03 AM
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#34
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Yeah....the memo
Things were much different during the Trump administration....NOT
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during Trump’s first term, in 2019, the FAA announced “a pilot program to help prepare people with disabilities for careers in air traffic operations,” saying that “a key focus for the FAA’s Office of Civil Rights is to identify specific opportunities for people with targeted disabilities, empower them and facilitate their entry into a more diverse and inclusive workforce.” The FAA continued to promote the pilot program in the latter half of 2020, near the end of Trump’s first term.
The FAA’s 2019 and 2020 descriptions of the program emphasized that people with disabilities would not be hired for jobs for which they weren’t capable. The FAA wrote in 2019 that “the candidates in this program will receive the same rigorous consideration in terms of aptitude, medical and security qualifications as those individuals considered for a standard public opening for air traffic controller jobs.”
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https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/30/polit...eck/index.html
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Today, 09:03 AM
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#35
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... Then, obviously the manager made the WRONG decision.
Should've had two people there. ... Perhaps the tragedy
don't happen IF they are properly staffed.
... It's NOT complicated, 1blackman1. ... No need to make it so.
... And perhaps the FAA's hiring practices - DEI and what-not
has added to the rising number of "near crash" misses that
they've had in the last two years or so.
... Trump's not wrong about this.
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Trump is saying DEI diversity caused the air disaster.
Is that what you are saying ?
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Today, 09:26 AM
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Location: near Lake Ontario
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Originally Posted by VitaMan
Trump is saying DEI diversity caused the air disaster.
Is that what you are saying ?
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maybe maybe not , leaning ya as it slows hiring and not the BEST for the only that should be
under Biden FAA asked and added 10 flights a day to the airport
congress was ok with that, mmm which I knew count of votes
Someone not FAA gave a warning adding flights bad idea
congess may have wrongly been thinking more flights for them coming and going DC area
none that voted ok where on board
lots dirty hands in this
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Today, 09:30 AM
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#37
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... Then, obviously the manager made the WRONG decision.
Should've had two people there. ... Perhaps the tragedy
don't happen IF they are properly staffed.
... It's NOT complicated, 1blackman1. ... No need to make it so.
... And perhaps the FAA's hiring practices - DEI and what-not
has added to the rising number of "near crash" misses that
they've had in the last two years or so.
... Trump's not wrong about this.
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You and Trump are wrong. You continue with fact free posting as usual. Continued nonsense.
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Today, 10:06 AM
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#38
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Looks like the fault in causing this wreck/collision was on the Blackhawk pilot and crew. Is the helicopter, since it’s got black in its name a DEI vehicle? I won’t say what race the pilot and trainer were but does being white make them DEI hires for the military (if they are white)?
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Today, 10:10 AM
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#39
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Regarding all the noise being created now in the thread and elsewhere, Trump politicizing this disaster is plain wrong.
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Today, 10:16 AM
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#40
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Pittsburgh
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Fact Check: Yes, Obama and Biden Had FAA Hire People with Intellectual, Psychiatric, Severe Physical Disabilities
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...e0a034fc&ei=61
From the article: "The question raises itself: We weren't hiring air-traffic controllers, some of the most critical positions in civilian government employ, simply on the basis of merit?
Fact check: Accurate, unfortunately."
There are also many articles detailing that the tower had a staff of 19, but to be considered fully staffed they need 30.
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Today, 10:23 AM
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#41
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Many of you continuing to stray off topic
Let's repeat the facts
With no evidence whatsoever Trump implied that DEI was to blame for this
And when asked how he determined that he said it was because he had "common sense"
That would be hysterical if all of these people had not died
He's a lying fuck. Always. Can't help himself.
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Today, 10:28 AM
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The attempts to deflect and derail the thread topic are as bad as what Trump has tried to do.
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Today, 10:47 AM
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#43
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Originally Posted by VitaMan
The attempts to deflect and derail the thread topic are as bad as what Trump has tried to do.
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They learned from their master
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Today, 11:35 AM
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Western Journal. lol. I can stop reading as soon as I see the source. Not exactly fact based writing.
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Today, 11:36 AM
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#45
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Still I ask the question, were the helicopter pilots - who Trump is now blaming - were DEI hires?
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