Line in the sand?

[Bames Jond]

Originally Posted by Asianfab

Who is this girl anyways..

Tiny Asian angel in the southwest. My ATF but lately she’s opening the doors to avenues I was not prepared for.

[Asianfab]

Just be careful and cautious. Still have fun but just be safe

[Bames Jond]

Originally Posted by Asianfab

Just be careful and cautious. Still have fun but just be safe

Thanks man, I really appreciate the perspective from the community.

Next round is on me!

[okccannon]

You're emotionally attached. All she wants is your money. Quit paying her for service and watch her bounce.

[Bames Jond]

Originally Posted by okccannon

You're emotionally attached. All she wants is your money. Quit paying her for service and watch her bounce.

Yeah you’re right man. I’m pretty much overthinking it. She’s an amazing gal, married etc.
She does this business on the sideline…dunno how that works. I don’t really pay anymore, just show up. I guess that’s where the mind F is happening.

[HarelDavid]

She is married and its almost free pussy! Which there is no such thing as free pussy.....if I did not provide for my ex provider wife in some form she would be gone. And I would not blame her. We are always paying for it once you figure that out then set a budget and go from there. Married men are as guilty of paying for pussy as a john. If you are having fun and she is married brother then it has no future other than a fun tryst every now and then free or on a good rate leave it at that.

[Bames Jond]

Originally Posted by HarelDavid

She is married and its almost free pussy! Which there is no such thing as free pussy.....if I did not provide for my ex provider wife in some form she would be gone. And I would not blame her. We are always paying for it once you figure that out then set a budget and go from there. Married men are as guilty of paying for pussy as a john. If you are having fun and she is married brother then it has no future other than a fun tryst every now and then free or on a good rate leave it at that.

Good insight friend, I appreciate it.

[Belkins]

Been there done that a few years ago as a single younger guy than most of the clients at that time.

Lemme say the sex was was fun - solo, group activities, you name it and we did or tried it.
Fell into the trap of moving in together, added her to a CC (for life emergencies - groceries gas) met families, vacationed together all while maintaining a level of OPSEC. It was a helluva ride for close to 2 years.

Even with all the FUN and NO DRAMA, it never ends well, you’ll resent her profession at some point, they’ll never leave this life fully, there are a few unicorns who does this LT and have ZERO
hard habits, have their shit together - those are the ones that can play this game well and you should watch out for.

Now, if you can put up with all of that, fine but still have an exit plan because you might get caught up in your feelings while she’s dreaming of more pockets to empty besides yours, lol.

So while I never put money in her hands those 2 years after a few client sessions - it would have been cheaper for me to pay the rate once a week to fuck and leave, lol
For reference, high end in those days for this market was $250-$300 but $200 was plentiful for HR.

[Bames Jond]

Originally Posted by Belkins

Been there done that a few years ago as a single younger guy than most of the clients at that time.

Lemme say the sex was was fun - solo, group activities, you name it and we did or tried it.
Fell into the trap of moving in together, added her to a CC (for life emergencies - groceries gas) met families, vacationed together all while maintaining a level of OPSEC. It was a helluva ride for close to 2 years.

Even with all the FUN and NO DRAMA, it never ends well, you’ll resent her profession at some point, they’ll never leave this life fully, there are a few unicorns who does this LT and have ZERO
hard habits, have their shit together - those are the ones that can play this game well and you should watch out for.

Now, if you can put up with all of that, fine but still have an exit plan because you might get caught up in your feelings while she’s dreaming of more pockets to empty besides yours, lol.

So while I never put money in her hands those 2 years after a few client sessions - it would have been cheaper for me to pay the rate once a week to fuck and leave, lol
For reference, high end in those days for this market was $250-$300 but $200 was plentiful for HR.

Thanks Belkins, that’s a great perspective. Appreciate it.

Ultimately I’m going to trust my instinct on this one and move on. Really sucks, she’s a shot of life. But I like to keep things simple….

[Bames Jond]

Originally Posted by Belkins

Been there done that a few years ago as a single younger guy than most of the clients at that time.

Lemme say the sex was was fun - solo, group activities, you name it and we did or tried it.
Fell into the trap of moving in together, added her to a CC (for life emergencies - groceries gas) met families, vacationed together all while maintaining a level of OPSEC. It was a helluva ride for close to 2 years.

Even with all the FUN and NO DRAMA, it never ends well, you’ll resent her profession at some point, they’ll never leave this life fully, there are a few unicorns who does this LT and have ZERO
hard habits, have their shit together - those are the ones that can play this game well and you should watch out for.

Now, if you can put up with all of that, fine but still have an exit plan because you might get caught up in your feelings while she’s dreaming of more pockets to empty besides yours, lol.

So while I never put money in her hands those 2 years after a few client sessions - it would have been cheaper for me to pay the rate once a week to fuck and leave, lol
For reference, high end in those days for this market was $250-$300 but $200 was plentiful for HR.

Also “OPSEC.” lol I chuckled a little at that one. Haven’t heard that acronym in a while. Nice!

[HarelDavid]

I got lucky or I knew what I was looking at. Mine had her shit together and did not abuse certain things. Plus we decided to maintain an open relationship. Keeps the resentment out. Plus we were honest with one another and every once in a while we like a little bit of strange.....lol. We love one another to no end but we are after all human animals. I really do not believe we are meant to be monogamist. And we have all the regular relationship issues good and bad. Honesty from the beginning has been the key we do not hide anything.

[sweetpops]

I was dumb enough to advance some money to two long-time regulars, promising to meet up soon. They both took the money and ran. I would have done business with them for years, but they couldn't see past this. They basically took 150 instead of making a few thousand dollars with me over time.

[405Newguy]

Originally Posted by sweetpops

I was dumb enough to advance some money to two long-time regulars, promising to meet up soon. They both took the money and ran. I would have done business with them for years, but they couldn't see past this. They basically took 150 instead of making a few thousand dollars with me over time.

That's strange. I've said the exact same thing. I had to sit and think, "does this dude know me?". That's how close our exact words were.
That being said, I think the OP is enquiring about having a real life relationship with this female, not asking about giving her money upfront. (I say that respectfully)

[CantBuyMeLove]

Originally Posted by Bames Jond

I don’t really pay anymore, just show up. I guess that’s where the mind F is happening.

Yes, that's a strong pull. That was my TX girl. TBH, if I was back in that situation with her now, I may have chosen her. She would take me out with some of the others girls and we were all introduced as "favorite clients" to each other and we called each other by our ECCIE handles. But when the next day came around and reviews started popping up from the other clients, I never posted because I didn't pay. She would just say "Thanks for the good time, grab the money off the counter and through it back at me like I was being rude for setting it out there for her. Then I asked what it would take for her to go with me on a short trip during the week for business, 3 days, she said "not a thing" and went with me. On the last night we went so long and hard, we were literally both raw after. Couldn't have sec for 2 weeks to heal after. She was special. I see her in B movies every now and then, and was on the Suicide Girls site for a while. I miss that connection, obviously. It does mess with the mind when you don't pay. It can be awesome, but also scary.

[Bames Jond]

Originally Posted by CantBuyMeLove

Yes, that's a strong pull. That was my TX girl. TBH, if I was back in that situation with her now, I may have chosen her. She would take me out with some of the others girls and we were all introduced as "favorite clients" to each other and we called each other by our ECCIE handles. But when the next day came around and reviews started popping up from the other clients, I never posted because I didn't pay. She would just say "Thanks for the good time, grab the money off the counter and through it back at me like I was being rude for setting it out there for her. Then I asked what it would take for her to go with me on a short trip during the week for business, 3 days, she said "not a thing" and went with me. On the last night we went so long and hard, we were literally both raw after. Couldn't have sec for 2 weeks to heal after. She was special. I see her in B movies every now and then, and was on the Suicide Girls site for a while. I miss that connection, obviously. It does mess with the mind when you don't pay. It can be awesome, but also scary.

Indeed brutha. While kinda cool at first, ultimately raises more questions and adds confusion.

Ultimately I’m the dumbass in the equation, definitely taking this one as a huge lesson learned; always pay. Keep it what it is. Human emotion can always bubble up, but respect the provider/client dynamic and level off there.