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Old Yesterday, 07:48 PM   #31
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I’m not going to comment on this thread further. It’s going nowhere except off topic.
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...Maybe there's 18 million people who feel like I do.
Nobody hopes for that...
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Old Today, 05:51 AM   #33
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Default Here's what I think on the topic of gifts under the Christmas tree...

Once Kash Patel gets in the FBI leadership role, there will obviously be many that will ripcord out - likely before he even gets in the door. But there may very well be many "Patriotic Americans" remaining who may well be into the season of giving all manner of "gifts" regarding the OP topic.
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Old Today, 08:49 AM   #34
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You posit that in the crowd of people who participated in the January 6th riot that a 100+ number of federal agents were involved.
Sigh... You can't answer the question can you?

Don't worry the IG report will be made public and I'm sure we will revisit the topic.

You should probably figure out good talking points to justify the presence of Federal agents in the crowd involved in the actions that people are being jailed for.
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Old Today, 09:04 AM   #35
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Sigh... You can't answer the question can you?

Don't worry the IG report will be made public and I'm sure we will revisit the topic.

You should probably figure out good talking points to justify the presence of Federal agents in the crowd involved in the actions that people are being jailed for.
I already answered the question. There were no fifth column fbi troops in the area. There was no effort by the government, military, the supposed deep state to stop or undermine the senate’s ability to do their business on January 6th 2021.

The entire idea is ludicrous and any investigation of the matter will find the same.

Your theory is flawed in fundamental ways and can only exist if massive numbers of individuals are all “in on it”. Which for any large group is nigh on impossible.
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I already answered the question.
Perhaps you're not aware of how questions and answers work.

I ask, What if X happens?
Your Response, X didn't happen because blah, blah, blah...

It's a hypothetical question.

I understand you think that there were no Federal agents in the crowd because 1. The government denied it (they didn't- they just said no comment) and 2. There was no reason for them to be there.

The question is REGARDLESS of whether you think, at this moment, that federal agents were in the crowd on J6, if the IG reports that there were ~100 agents in the crowd, what will that mean to you?

Will that mean that there was still no government led Reichstag Fire type event?

Will that mean that you think the IG is lying?

Will that mean any change in your belief that the government wouldn't lie to you?

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The entire idea is ludicrous and any investigation of the matter will find the same.
I didn't ask about the veracity of my assertion, I asked what that means for your assertion that, "It never happened." if, in fact, Feds were in the crowd on J6.

I can readily admit the contrapositive, if they weren't there then the whole government narrative of the events appear to be accurate.
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Perhaps you're not aware of how questions and answers work.

It's a hypothetical question.

I understand you think that there were no Federal agents in the crowd because 1. The government denied it (they didn't- they just said no comment) and 2. There was no reason for them to be there.

The question is REGARDLESS of whether you think, at this moment, that federal agents were in the crowd on J6, if the IG reports that there were ~100 agents in the crowd, what will that mean to you?

Will that mean that there was still no government led Reichstag Fire type event?

Will that mean that you think the IG is lying?

Will that mean any change in your belief that the government wouldn't lie to you?

I didn't ask about the veracity of my assertion, I asked what that means for your assertion that, "It never happened." if, in fact, Feds were in the crowd on J6.

I can readily admit the contrapositive, if they weren't there then the whole government narrative of the events appear to be accurate.
I won’t answer your hypothetical question because to do so gives it the semblance of reality. It leads the credulous down dangerous paths. I won’t give it any credibility at all.

Conversations like these are what lead to jewish space lasers, the flat earth society, recovered alien spacecraft, faking the moon landing, etc. etc.
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I won’t answer your hypothetical question
Then you could have just said that... not claim that you did.

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because to do so gives it the semblance of reality. It leads the credulous down dangerous paths. I won’t give it any credibility at all.
Not really sure about that. The premise of a "what if" is based on the assumptions. If the assumptions are invalid, so is the entirety of the question. If we all operated like that, we'd haave zero scientific advancement.

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Conversations like these are what lead to jewish space lasers, the flat earth society, recovered alien spacecraft, faking the moon landing, etc. etc.
Hardly. Not sure of the reference to Jewish Space lasers.... I would guess if they existed, the Israelis would be shooting things with them, The Earth is very definitely spherical, we went to the moon... we even have contemporary pics of the landing sites, and I doubt Alien spacecraft. Space is vast and has been around for a long time... so there may be alien life, but I doubt that if alien life exists it has perfected FTL travel... and if it did, I doubt the end of a spiral arm in our Milky Way galaxy would be their prime destination.
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