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Old 09-03-2024, 05:37 AM   #16
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Just some MAGA hoax. Certainly not immigrant gangs riding up and down the street murdering people at will or whatever OP is implying.
Despite all the right wing talking points, and them blowing random crimes out of proportion in an attempt to extrapolate those crimes unto an entire race of people, the actual data shows crime is down under Biden.

Their boogeyman calling card of "migrant crime" was actually higher under trump. Just another projection from team maga.
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Old 09-03-2024, 08:12 AM   #17
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To claim democrats aren’t the main problem when it comes to illegal immigrants just isn’t true. Its been an obvious effort to increase their voter base, regardless of the dangers involved. Anything else is garbage.
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Old 09-03-2024, 11:13 AM   #18
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It's true that border crossings are up under Biden, however it's also true that overall crime is down, compared to the trump nightmare. Both things can be, and are, true. Maybe Mexico started sending us their best?
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Old 09-03-2024, 11:40 AM   #19
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To claim democrats aren’t the main problem when it comes to illegal immigrants just isn’t true. Its been an obvious effort to increase their voter base, regardless of the dangers involved. Anything else is garbage.
Incrase legal immigrants. Legal.

No one is looking for there to more illegal immigrants.

I would love to know if you're familiar with how asylum claims are processed. And which administrations have tried to speed up adjudication vs slow them down significantly. Why is the backlog so bad? Don't just blindly say "Democrats" or "liberals"

I'd also like to understand if you know the difference between what's legal vs illegal in the immigration space. I have some concerns that you don't.
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Old 09-03-2024, 11:23 PM   #20
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To claim democrats aren’t the main problem when it comes to illegal immigrants just isn’t true. Its been an obvious effort to increase their voter base, regardless of the dangers involved. Anything else is garbage.
... Too Right, Char!

... Of course the Dems are the problem.
They WANT open borders! ... To fill A LOT of the states
such-as Colorado with illegals.
Problems in Aurora.

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Old 09-04-2024, 04:20 AM   #21
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... Too Right, Char!

... Of course the Dems are the problem.
They WANT open borders! ... To fill A LOT of the states
such-as Colorado with illegals.
Problems in Aurora.

#### Salty
You know these are just bogus talking points, right? Nobody wants "open borders". Literally nobody.
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Old 09-04-2024, 04:33 AM   #22
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Aurora Police Chief responds to bogus claims of gangs "taking over" apartment buildings.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/n...e/75013215007/

Well, it is an election year after all, and per usual, Republicans turn to stoking fear in their voters, first and foremost. It's their preferred method of voter turnout.
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Old 09-05-2024, 02:24 PM   #23
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Why do republicans continue this charade about illegals when they are the largest employer of them. They want them here
look at the farmworkers in California, the roofers in South Carolina.........Thats just tip of the iceberg. The employers never complete the hire package required by law proving residency.
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Old 09-05-2024, 03:32 PM   #24
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You know these are just bogus talking points, right? Nobody wants "open borders". Literally nobody.
... ALL the Liberals want Open Borders, mate.
People such as yer-self.

... However, the people over Aurora don't want them.

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Old 09-05-2024, 03:52 PM   #25
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... ALL the Liberals want Open Borders, mate.
People such as yer-self.

... However, the people over Aurora don't want them.

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Wrong again. Just more bogus talking points. Literally no one wants open borders.
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Old 09-05-2024, 04:01 PM   #26
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Wrong again. Just more bogus talking points. Literally no one wants open borders.
... Then HOW did some 9,000 people cross the last 4 years?
... Magic??
... CLOSE THE BORDER!

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... Then HOW did some 9,000 people cross the last 4 years?
... Magic??
... CLOSE THE BORDER!

### Salty
The 9 million number cited are encounters and cover all ports of entry.

They include legal and illegal entries.

They include

1. people temporarily in CBP custody, and given a court date for their asylum claim to be adjudicated (apprehensions)

AND

2. people who were denied entry and returned to either their home country or last country of transit (expulsions)

If someone shows up and is removed today and returns tomorrow, that's 2 encounters. Not 2 separate people. Lot of that goes on.

The first group are documented aliens until their case is adjudicated. Many will be eligible to work temporarily. It could take 180 day or up to 7 years for these folks to be processed. This is not illegal. This is how the process works. And the asylum process is enshrined in law and in the code of federal regulations. Unfortunately, some administrations have switched from LIFO to FIFO on how cases are addressed. Some have significantly reduced the number of immigration judges who preside over these cases. Massively, massively creating an entiely unnecessary backlog.

That backlog was supposed to be a disincentive, but it actually is a draw due to the dysfunction of the system

And none of these folks get to vote for president. Not for years. They first have to he approved for asylum. Then permanent residency. Then citizenship. And a significant majority aren't ultimately approved for asylum. We're not talking about millions per year. Far, far, far less than that.

Wanna break the backlog? Hire a massive surge of immigration judges, handle the cases on a FIFO basis and follow the process.

Don't agree with the process? Change the actual laws to be functional instead of letting administrations switch up policy as thry see fit, until they get sued over the changes and injunctions bars the chsnges from being fully implemented. Follow the actual law.

Right now, today, those laws require asylum applicants to come to the border. And right now, you can cross the border and as long as you apply for asylum within one year of entry you're following the rules.

Refugees apply via the consular process.
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Old 09-07-2024, 08:19 AM   #28
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Story and situation continue to evolve

https://www.9news.com/article/news/c...5-d159ab644905

https://www.foxnews.com/us/suspected...ased-1000-bond

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/new...stance-aurora/

Still waiting to see specifically what the OP thinks is going on or why it requires the U.S. Army or the National Guard to get involved.
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Old 09-07-2024, 06:11 PM   #29
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https://x.com/newsmax/status/1832554881841807448?s=42
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Old 09-08-2024, 01:02 AM   #30
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The slumlords who own the properties in question have taken a deal

https://www.9news.com/article/news/l...9-0ea37cf1c0d4
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