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Originally Posted by hughjahol
I see that you love to do this. Take someones post and tear it up line by line. Wear them down.
Hope they will give up. I'm not going to fall into the same trap that others have. This is not worth spending more time on. But I am going to use your technique against you one time only.
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LOL. Is that what it does? I thought it just exposed ignorance thoroughly. Maybe the ignorant just give up easily?
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
You very obviously think you are superior. The whole tone of your replies to me has been like that. And I didn't say you were ignorant. But you use arguments and sources that support your views and don't consider other facts that do not.
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I appreciate your amateur hour attempt to psychoanalyze me. Don't quit your day job, is my advice.
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
You mean the images that do not at all show what you say they do? Like the image from Pew Research that only shows people support showing ID and says nothing about supporting proving citizenship?
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Were you under the impression that the ID shouldn't show citizenship? The whole point of the ID is to prove you are who you say you are. No state should be issuing a license to non-citizens that doesn't indicate that status. Thus showing ID at the polls, serves the dual purpose of IDing the voter and ensuring the voter is eligible. Or are you one of those fools that thinks non-citizens should get a say in the governance of our nation?
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
I am learning that you cannot support your arguments with actual facts. Being rude and sarcastic does not help you.
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Do you think I care whether you believe me or not? Seriously... what makes you think your opinion matters to me? Because I contradict you? It doesn't take a great deal of energy to do so
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
Not a good argument. Paxton wants to make 160 million people prove their citizenship to vote. A hassle that is not needed.
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According to you. But the ONLY reason to oppose a law that makes it a crime for illegals to vote in US elections is in fact to have illegals vote in US elections. It doesn't affect me as a citizen in any way shape or form... Hassle? to perform my sacred civic duty? if that's all it takes for you to not vote is a hassle, well then you aren't the sort that should be voting anyway.
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
Like I said above the 81 percent are people that support showing ID. Your posts do not prove the same amount support having to prove citizenship.
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Are you seriously making the argument that 81% of voters want to show ID but they DON'T want those same people who show ID to show citizenship status? lol.... yeah, I've got some land I'd like to talk to you about selling... comes with a bridge too.
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
I'll say that again too. Because it is not needed. Why make 160 million people do this if it is not. The answer is because this is all just a political show to make the Dems look bad. But it is a set up. And you are playing along.
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All the Democrats have to do to NOT look bad is to vote for it. This simply underlines the state laws that exist and says it's illegal to vote in federal elections... easy peasy... doesn't even speak to enforcement... just that it becomes a federal crime to vote in an election illegally. Why should that bother you?
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
They don't HAVE to. They just don't want to play dumb games with this like the GOP has been trying to do.
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Sad to hear that you think fair free elections is a game. Maybe you should stop voting if its just a game?
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
Saying the Dems NEED this is not true at all. I will repeat myself again. Show me the proof of fraudulent voting. It barely exists and does not change national elections. Show. Me. The. Proof.
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Why do I need proof? Unless you think illegals SHOULD be allowed to vote in federal elections, there is no reason to oppose the measure. In your words it BARELY exists... well for those who BARELY CHEAT this will make that act BARELY illegal. It will have BARLEY any affect on elections.
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
There is no proof of almost everything you say in your posts. And you know it. Just like you also know that the Dems are not saying it should not be illegal for foreigners to vote. It won't stop you from saying it though. But things like this just make it worse.
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BARELY, ALMOST... you like to avoid absolutes don't you? Give me the contradictory argument then... What legitimate reason do democrats have to oppose making it illegal for illegal aliens, foreigners, or anyone NOT an eligible citizen to vote in an election?
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
It will make 160 million people go through hassles that are not needed. And it is so two-faced. The GOP fights unnecessary bureaucracy all the time. Until something like this.
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What's it going to mean to you? You're a citizen (I assume) what practical impact would such legislation have on you?
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
You have explained nothing. Just made the same arguments using the same bad logic and facts that are taken out of context.
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Bad logic? Something is either logical or it is not... there is no such thing as bad logic. Democrats use the EXACT same logic... hence why they oppose passing such a law.
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
You just explained how you don't understand my points at all.
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I understand your points.. its a hassle, its not needed, blah blah blah... it's just that those are worthless points balanced against the simplicity of the proposed law. It's a hassle to slow to 20 mph in school zones when kids don't walk home from school anymore... but it's still a law. And this proposed law would affect you even less if you're a citizen. And it would prevent the Republicans from cheating too right? So it's a no brainer to pass.
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
I guess it is not enough that you misrepresent all of your facts. Now you do it with my arguments too.
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don't blame me if your arguments of it's a hassle isn't enough for me to think its not a good law.
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And you obviously care enough about my opinion to respond to me line by line by line.
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Do I? or is it simply to have some fun tearing apart your "logic"? We shouldn't do it because it's a hassle... Sorry but laziness isn't a reason not to pass a very obvious and in your own words... non-impactful argument.
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Seems to be a thing you do a lot. What a waste of time. Like I said I'm only doing this once.
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we shall see I guess...
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
Paxton lies and misrepresents. You play along.
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Whats hilarious is that you so don't understand the topic that you think Paxton is behind this... it's simply a comment on the proposed Bill. It has nothing to do with Texas state legislation.
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Originally Posted by hughjahol
Find something to talk about that is actually meaningful.
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If you don't find it meaningful, then why respond? and just because you don't find it meaningful, doesn't mean that others disagree... so who died and left you in charge of the topics that may be posted?