The 8th Amendment In The Bill Of Rights.

[VitaMan]

Grasping at straws now.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Grasping at straws now.

Exactly. Has there ever been an instance when trumpf didn't at least try to get out of his financial responsibilities?
Be it lawsuit debt judgements loans etc.. the guy is slime

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Perhaps Trump should be able to have his Justice Dept file charges against this clown judge and the Attorney General James for violating his civil rights under the 8th Amendment. After all, they are Government Offocials.

Just as when a police officer violates a suspects civil rights for a violation of his rights and has charges brought, this judge and prosecutor should be subjected to the same culpability in violating a citizens rights under the 8th Amendment.

Well if he attacks it just right. he could have that ridiculous fine overturned. No normal thinking Judge would impose such a fine unless he had an agenda behind it.

[VitaMan]

What does Biden have to do with the 8th amendment ? 20% of the posts here discuss Biden.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

If any of you happened to watch Laura Ingraham last night, she had a great town hall with Former President Trump.

During the questions concerning his financial situation with the fines and bail, he calmly pulled out a copy and read the 8Th Amendment.

This was the first time any one has mentioned it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth...s_Constitution.

Originally Posted by Tiny

This is a classic example of an excessive fine. And that's what it is, a fine. The money's not going to compensate the banks which Trump allegedly defrauded. It's going to the coffers of the state of New York.

Donald Trump’s net worth is estimated at 2.6 billion dollars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth...golf%20courses.

Donald Trump now owes a half a billion dollars in fines and that’s a considerable fraction of his net worth. However I’m not shedding any tears over it. Better a rich man with all the power that comes with it and all the legal representation he would want is fined a large portion of his wealth than a poor man with no legal representation and no money gets sent to death row.

Doesn’t anyone remember the Central Park Five? Trump advocated for the death penalty for five innocent men and refused to admit his error when they were exonerated years later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_jogger_case

So he is losing some money. Boo Hoo

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by Tiny

This is a classic example of an excessive fine. And that's what it is, a fine. The money's not going to compensate the banks which Trump allegedly defrauded. It's going to the coffers of the state of New York.

If it's not even going to cover what he owes, how the fuck is it excessive? Sir.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Perhaps Trump should be able to have his Justice Dept file charges against this clown judge and the Attorney General James for violating his civil rights under the 8th Amendment. After all, they are Government Offocials.

Just as when a police officer violates a suspects civil rights for a violation of his rights and has charges brought, this judge and prosecutor should be subjected to the same culpability in violating a citizens rights under the 8th Amendment.

... Too Right, mate! ... The Judge already declared Trump
"guilty" without a trial and the ability to answer the charges.

Civil Rights violation...

#### Salty

[VitaMan]

You don't understand there is no jury trial under this statute ?

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Too Right, mate! ... The Judge already declared Trump
"guilty" without a trial and the ability to answer the charges.

Civil Rights violation...

#### Salty

Pahlease .
Trumpf is trying anything to get out of his responsibilities. It's what he does. Huge and lengthy record of that.
Hiding behind the eighth. Does not surprise me.
It prolly will get reduced. He still won't pay. That's who he is

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

You don't understand there is no jury trial under this statute ?

Lol
Trumpf doesn't even understand that.
His bellows at his rallies prove that.
No way trumpf knew about the eighth before the other night

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Too Right, mate! ... The Judge already declared Trump
"guilty" without a trial and the ability to answer the charges.

Civil Rights violation...

#### Salty

And there was a trial, just not a jury.


And when was he denied the ability to speak? He had a gag order placed on him after he started threatening the Judge’s people and the judge himself.

What have you been watching?

[Jackie S]

Correct, Salty.

A civil rights violation is a civil rights violation, whether it is a cop violating the 5th by beating a suspect to get a confession or an out of control DA and Judge setting out to ruin a person financially by abusing that person’s 8th Amendment rights.

The Judge and DA should be held responsible and face criminal charges.

[ICU 812]

This seems to me to be somewhat like when everyone on the left got bent out of shape over Mr. Trump's tax return. Finally, they were released, and it was found that he used legal means provided for in the tax code to minimize the amount of tax he paid. . . .A nothing-burger with wining from the left.

So now, he faces either paying the nearly half-billion dollar fine the court imposed, or he can post a bond in the same huge amount and move up the legal ladder and appeal the ruling.

But, oops, there is the Eighth Amendment on unreasonable fines and and bonds.

[ICU 812]

In case you didn't read through the Wikipedia article linked to in the OP, here is a short video on The Eighth Amendment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-2TjkAY63g

[1blackman1]

Interesting. We will see if this argument applies to civil judgments. I highly doubt it. And his placing a bond for appeal is standard practice, again I highly doubt the eighth amendment would be applicable there either. In fact, I’ll go out on a very short limb and say NOPE.

That’s was just talk for a very dumb and uneducated trump supporting crowd on Fox. Not surprising that a bunch of idiots would be whining that trump’s civil rights were violated. They weren’t. His lawyers lost at the summary judgment hearing. There’s no requirement that any civil matter go to a “trier of fact” when the facts aren’t in dispute. It’s pretty obvious that Trumps apartment was 1/3 the size he listed. Which is clearly a lie and fraud intended to increase its value. And it’s obvious that rentals that are rent controlled yield a specific value regardless of what market rent for similar properties might be. Again, a lie by trump intended to increase its value. Those are two clear uncontroverted instances of fraud, which the judge pointed to in finding for summary judgment. No violation of his rights there.

Then he was fined 355 mil. No violation of his civil rights. Maybe the appeals court will lower the amount. Fine. Happens every day but no violation of due process or rights. He will have to post bond sufficient to cover the judgment to make his appeal, that’s the same process for every person across the US.