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02-09-2024, 05:37 AM
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I’m betting that the amount of documents generated by either the president or vice president is quite extensive. The fact that there are misplaced classified documents is not surprising to me. I have a feeling future office holders will have to have some one on their staff who’s sole responsibility is to keep up with all the classified information generated to ensure that this doesn’t happen again.
What makes this and Pence’s case different from Trump’s is Trump’s obstruction of justice. All Trump had to do was cooperate and return the documents and this would have been a non issue.
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The single biggest difference in Trump and everybody else who were discovered to have classified documents is Trump was President. He was legal to have them, and even declassify them if he wished.
How many laws did Biden break when he, as a Senator, took documents out of the secure area where elected officials were able to view them. And as Vice President, he or Pence either one had no authority to have any of these documents.
Regardless of what a bunch of glorified clerks in the National Archives say, as a former President, Trump was well within his legal rights to possess the documents he had.
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02-09-2024, 06:18 AM
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So, if Biden is too feeble to charge and prosicute . . . .can he still function as President?
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02-09-2024, 07:26 AM
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The single biggest difference in Trump and everybody else who were discovered to have classified documents is Trump was President. He was legal to have them, and even declassify them if he wished.
How many laws did Biden break when he, as a Senator, took documents out of the secure area where elected officials were able to view them. And as Vice President, he or Pence either one had no authority to have any of these documents.
Regardless of what a bunch of glorified clerks in the National Archives say, as a former President, Trump was well within his legal rights to possess the documents he had.
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Regardless of the pap you’ve been fed by the Trump bullshit machine. He had no business taking those documents and refusing to return them. None.
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02-09-2024, 08:22 AM
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The single biggest difference in Trump and everybody else who were discovered to have classified documents is Trump was President. He was legal to have them, and even declassify them if he wished.
How many laws did Biden break when he, as a Senator, took documents out of the secure area where elected officials were able to view them. And as Vice President, he or Pence either one had no authority to have any of these documents.
Regardless of what a bunch of glorified clerks in the National Archives say, as a former President, Trump was well within his legal rights to possess the documents he had.
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Read the decision made by Robert Hur then read the charges against Trump in Florida. Stark differences.
Trump had no right to take documents with him to Florida after he became an ex-president. Where do you have evidence to the contrary? Had Trump simply returned the documents when asked to this issue would have been closed. Instead Trump lied about returning all the documents requested, was issued a subpeona which he ignored, and forced the government to enter his home to recover the documents.
And there are varying opinions as to whether or not Biden, as Vice President, broke any laws in having classified documents in his home or office. Hur never addressed that issue I believe. What Hur did say is Biden should have returned the documents when he left office. When the documents were found, by Biden's attornies, the proper authorities were notified and the documents were immediately returned.
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02-09-2024, 08:47 AM
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You do realize that the special prosecutor Robert Hur is a conservative lawyer appointed by Trump to the department of justice. That’s why the report referenced Biden’s supposed cognitive decline. A hit job by a biased prosecutor as far as i’m concerned.
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... What does that have to do with what I mentioned??
Another Special Council will look at it once Biden
is no longer on as president.
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02-09-2024, 09:00 AM
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And guess what. No charges.
Not that there shouldn’t be, but the Special Council decide that Biden is such a senile, stupid old fool that a Jury would find him to be too sympathetic to convict..
They are probably right.
https://nypost.com/2024/02/08/news/s...ied-documents/
Not good for his re election.
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The special council said he broke the law but in his opinion was too old, feeble and senile to stand trial?
Honestly I don’t want the brain dead POS in jail. I want him gone gone gone.
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02-09-2024, 09:22 AM
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The special council said he broke the law but in his opinion was too old, feeble and senile to stand trial?
Honestly I don’t want the brain dead POS in jail. I want him gone gone gone.
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How many members of your special council? There's a lot of talk bout this entity, but all I see is stuff coming from a single lawyer, who was UNABLE to assign any crime or culpability to the investigation.
So is that a council? A tribunal? A gaggle of GOPs?
Is that what makes them special?
Biden was charged with NOTHING. The special COUNSEL is not a doctor. And I am pretty sure no doctors are calling him brain dead OR a POS.
One can only conclude that this is yet another expensive and vengeful act of rage whining.
Makes perfect sense, boyz!
AHAHAHAHAHAH!
YOW!
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02-09-2024, 10:17 AM
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The special council said he broke the law but in his opinion was too old, feeble and senile to stand trial?
Honestly I don’t want the brain dead POS in jail. I want him gone gone gone.
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I think you are too old, feeble and senile to actually read anything.
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02-09-2024, 11:07 AM
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You cannot prosecute someone for doing something that they were legal to do.
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02-09-2024, 01:06 PM
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You cannot prosecute someone for doing something that they were legal to do.
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Did Trump take documents from the WH legally when he was no longer POTUS?
" Trump could easily have received a waiver to possess classified documents
The indictment explained that protocols do exist for former presidents to obtain a specific waiver of a rule — known as a “need-to-know” requirement” — that would have allowed Trump, under certain circumstances, to possess classified documents.
But Trump “did not obtain any such waiver after his presidency,” the charging document states."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ways-rcna88611
I would say the answer to my question is "NO".
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02-09-2024, 02:15 PM
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How funny. Trying to compare thousands of pages to less than 10 pages and cooperating with authorities.
They needed to get a search warrant to get a look at trumps stash.
Funny how y'all claimed the doc case was a politically driven. Suddenly Biden's handful is significant.
Comparing Biden's case to trump's is a joke.
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The special council said he broke the law but in his opinion was too old, feeble and senile to stand trial?
Honestly I don’t want the brain dead POS in jail. I want him gone gone gone.
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02-09-2024, 02:20 PM
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Fortunately for Biden, he is campaigning against an equally fading memory dinosaur, so if they actually debate each other, there may be a presidential debate record set by the candidates both asking, "can you repeat the question?"
I believe in ageism for a reason. It's not Bidens' fault and it's not his adversary's fault. It's Mother Nature's fault that you see consistent cognitive decline.
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Equally fading? Hold up sod buster and reevaluate. Declining memory with age alone is pure bullshit. Memory loss , is like cancer , diabetes, heart issues, some people get them and some don’t, unfortunately for him and the USA ,Mr Biden has it bigly. A sure tell about his mental state is how mad he gets about questions concerning the issue.
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02-09-2024, 05:33 PM
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Equally fading? Hold up sod buster and reevaluate. Declining memory with age alone is pure bullshit. Memory loss , is like cancer , diabetes, heart issues, some people get them and some don’t, unfortunately for him and the USA ,Mr Biden has it bigly. A sure tell about his mental state is how mad he gets about questions concerning the issue.
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Biden has been a stupid, plagiarizing corrupt piece of shit his entire adult life.
Through the years, it was understood. Only when Covid hit and the Democrats needed a puppet whose strings could be tugged did he suddenly become more than a cocktail party joke.
The joke has long last lost its amusement value. It is now just pathetic.
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02-10-2024, 07:05 AM
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^^^
Thank you for that.
Everything you say is, in my opinion, spot -on. All that would be effective political commentary under normal circumstances, but it has now gone beyond mere political considerations, I feel.
Anymore, my political animus is directed less at President Biden as a politician, and more at those surrounding him.
I have been focusing on the personal, human tragedy that Biden's administration has become. It is my belief that Mr. Biden's family, care givers and political team are collectively guilty of elder abuse as they continue to push this elderly man into the rigors of public service at the ighest level.
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02-10-2024, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackie S
Biden has been a stupid, plagiarizing corrupt piece of shit his entire adult life.
Through the years, it was understood. Only when Covid hit and the Democrats needed a puppet whose strings could be tugged did he suddenly become more than a cocktail party joke.
The joke has long last lost its amusement value. It is now just pathetic.
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Had Biden run in 2016 against Trump the odds of him being elected POTUS were very much in his favor. Hillary lost a close election and Biden did not carry the negative baggage that Hillary did.
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