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Old 01-13-2024, 11:39 PM   #1
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Default Biden gives Taiwan to China "It's yours, take it"

this is what all that China loot bought .. Taiwan and control of the world's computer chip industry


brilliant!!!

Biden: US does not support Taiwan independence

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-u-d...152500924.html


Steve Holland, Nandita Bose and Trevor Hunnicutt
Updated Sat, January 13, 2024 at 12:14 PM CST


WASHINGTON (Reuters) -U.S. President Joe Biden said on Saturday the United States does not support the independence of Taiwan, after Taiwanese voters rebuffed China and gave the ruling party a third presidential term.


Earlier in the day, the Taiwanese ruling Democratic Progressive Party's (DPP) presidential candidate Lai Ching-te came to power, strongly rejecting Chinese pressure to spurn him, and pledged both to stand up to Beijing and seek talks.


"We do not support independence..." Biden said, when asked for reaction to Saturday's elections.


The United States switched diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979 and has long said it does not support a formal declaration of independence by Taiwan. It does, however, maintain unofficial relations with the self-governed island and remains its most important backer and arms supplier.


Beijing, which has never renounced the use of force to bring Taiwan under its control, fears that Lai could declare the establishment of a Republic of Taiwan, which Lai has said he will not do.


Biden has previously upset the Chinese government with comments that appeared to suggest the United States would defend the island if it were attacked, a deviation from a long-held U.S. position of "strategic ambiguity".


His comments on Saturday appear to be an effort to reassure Beijing.


Even so, Washington warned just hours ahead of the polls opening that "it would be unacceptable" for "any" country to interfere in the election.


Taiwan, which neighboring China claims as its own, has been a democratic success story since holding its first direct presidential election in 1996, the culmination of decades of struggle against authoritarian rule and martial law.


U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken congratulated Lai Ching-te on his victory and said the United States "is committed to maintaining cross-strait peace and stability, and the peaceful resolution of differences, free from coercion and pressure."He said the U.S. looks forward to working with Lai and leaders of all parties in Taiwan to advance their "longstanding unofficial relationship, consistent with the U.S. one China policy."


The Biden administration has feared that the election, transition and new administration would escalate conflict with Beijing.


Biden has worked to smooth relations with China, including agreeing to talk through differences on security matters at a California summit with President Xi Jinping in November.


Taiwan's government expects China to attempt to put pressure on its incoming president after the vote, including staging military maneuvers near the island this spring, two senior government officials said. China has never renounced the use of force to bring Taiwan under its control.


In a show of support for the government, Biden plans to dispatch an unofficial delegation to the self-governed island, according to a senior Biden administration official.


The delegation is likely to include some former high-ranking American officials, according to the official, who said the names have not been finalized. Similar delegations have been sent to Taiwan in the past.


China was angered in 2016 when then-President-elect Donald Trump spoke by phone with President Tsai Ing-wen of Taiwan, the first such conversation between U.S. and Taiwan leaders since President Jimmy Carter switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to China in 1979.

jimmy carter .. still not dead and still betraying America


(Reporting by Steve Holland, Nandita Bose and Trevor Hunnicutt in Washington; Editing by Diane Craft and Michael Perry)
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Old 01-14-2024, 12:22 AM   #2
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Old 01-14-2024, 01:52 AM   #4
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We need to move fast on 2 fronts: 1) accelerate the construction & deployment of our next generation (Columbia class) of nuclear submarines, and 2) deliver to Taiwan thousands of our latest anti-aircraft, anti-missile, anti-drone and anti-ship defense systems.

At its narrowest point, the Taiwan strait is over 100 miles wide. That's 5x as wide as the English Channel. We will blow the Chicoms out of the water if they are stupid enough to try to invade.
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Old 01-14-2024, 05:02 AM   #6
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What loot?

Carter didn't change recognition. It changed under Carter by the UN. As members of the UN, the US backed the UN decision.


Just one more subject you don't know much about. Like most global problems, it's complicated. US policies haven't changed much recently.
As ll mentioned, US submarines could help keep the strait clear although numerous diesel subs (which are much cheaper and just about as quiet)could be used because of the much shorter ranges. They could destroy the wafer fabs but it would be very tough to capture them intact.
The PRC doesn't have a huge amphibious force.
In case you forgot, Pelosi visited Taiwan in 2019 or 2020.


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this is what all that China loot bought .. Taiwan and control of the world's computer chip industry


brilliant!!! Again, you aren't brilliant by any means. You didn't even check wiki for general info.

Biden: US does not support Taiwan independence

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-u-d...152500924.html


Steve Holland, Nandita Bose and Trevor Hunnicutt
Updated Sat, January 13, 2024 at 12:14 PM CST


WASHINGTON (Reuters) -U.S. President Joe Biden said on Saturday the United States does not support the independence of Taiwan, after Taiwanese voters rebuffed China and gave the ruling party a third presidential term.


Earlier in the day, the Taiwanese ruling Democratic Progressive Party's (DPP) presidential candidate Lai Ching-te came to power, strongly rejecting Chinese pressure to spurn him, and pledged both to stand up to Beijing and seek talks.


"We do not support independence..." Biden said, when asked for reaction to Saturday's elections.


The United States switched diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979 and has long said it does not support a formal declaration of independence by Taiwan. It does, however, maintain unofficial relations with the self-governed island and remains its most important backer and arms supplier.


Beijing, which has never renounced the use of force to bring Taiwan under its control, fears that Lai could declare the establishment of a Republic of Taiwan, which Lai has said he will not do.


Biden has previously upset the Chinese government with comments that appeared to suggest the United States would defend the island if it were attacked, a deviation from a long-held U.S. position of "strategic ambiguity".I thought trumpys claimed Biden was in the PRC pocket. Another subject you don't know shit about.


His comments on Saturday appear to be an effort to reassure Beijing.


Even so, Washington warned just hours ahead of the polls opening that "it would be unacceptable" for "any" country to interfere in the election.


Taiwan, which neighboring China claims as its own, has been a democratic success story since holding its first direct presidential election in 1996, the culmination of decades of struggle against authoritarian rule and martial law.


U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken congratulated Lai Ching-te on his victory and said the United States "is committed to maintaining cross-strait peace and stability, and the peaceful resolution of differences, free from coercion and pressure."He said the U.S. looks forward to working with Lai and leaders of all parties in Taiwan to advance their "longstanding unofficial relationship, consistent with the U.S. one China policy."


The Biden administration has feared that the election, transition and new administration would escalate conflict with Beijing.


Biden has worked to smooth relations with China, including agreeing to talk through differences on security matters at a California summit with President Xi Jinping in November.


Taiwan's government expects China to attempt to put pressure on its incoming president after the vote, including staging military maneuvers near the island this spring, two senior government officials said. China has never renounced the use of force to bring Taiwan under its control.


In a show of support for the government, Biden plans to dispatch an unofficial delegation to the self-governed island, according to a senior Biden administration official.


The delegation is likely to include some former high-ranking American officials, according to the official, who said the names have not been finalized. Similar delegations have been sent to Taiwan in the past.


China was angered in 2016 when then-President-elect Donald Trump spoke by phone with President Tsai Ing-wen of Taiwan, the first such conversation between U.S. and Taiwan leaders since President Jimmy Carter switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to China in 1979.

jimmy carter .. still not dead and still betraying America


(Reporting by Steve Holland, Nandita Bose and Trevor Hunnicutt in Washington; Editing by Diane Craft and Michael Perry)
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What is an 0brobro?

Is that anything like an 0zombie?

Please comment on the subject of the thread, which is the misinformation presented by the OP regarding the US and Taiwan.

I think the OP has read a story and drawn a simplistic conclusion for a complex problem by cherry picking statements.

What’s your take?

And what is the “YRSE …” in your avatar refer to? What are you “thinking bout?”
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What loot?

Carter didn't change recognition. It changed under Carter by the UN. As members of the UN, the US backed the UN decision.


Just one more subject you don't know much about. Like most global problems, it's complicated. US policies haven't changed much recently.
As ll mentioned, US submarines could help keep the strait clear although numerous diesel subs (which are much cheaper and just about as quiet)could be used because of the much shorter ranges. They could destroy the wafer fabs but it would be very tough to capture them intact.
The PRC doesn't have a huge amphibious force.
In case you forgot, Pelosi visited Taiwan in 2019 or 2020.

thanks for proving my point. the US should have vetoed that resolution and it's Carter' fault we didn't.



Biden has declared that Taiwan belongs to China so don't expect any US subs to prevent China from taking back little sister
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I'd say USA showed its position with Taiwan when Ike told Chiang "Cash the" shek that we wouldn't back him if he invaded the mainland.
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Biden has said three or four times that U.S. forces would defend Taiwan if China invaded. Trump on the other hand has intentionally been ambiguous as to whether he'd support using U.S. troops against the Chinese.

Trump did impose high tariffs on Chinese goods, as well as restrictions on some U.S. exports like high end semiconductors. Biden has kept the tariffs in place, and added additional restrictions on U.S. exports to China.

So the two men are on the same page when it comes to commerce with China, while Biden's probably more inclined to go to war to defend Taiwan.

If you want another Cold War or a real war with China or Russia, Biden's your man, although Trump's pretty paranoid about the Chinese too.
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The US has always been guided by the one China policy.

The title of the thread is misleading.
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What loot?

Carter didn't change recognition. It changed under Carter by the UN. As members of the UN, the US backed the UN decision.

The PRC doesn't have a huge amphibious force.
In case you forgot, Pelosi visited Taiwan in 2019 or 2020.
... Pelosi visited Taiwan back-then? ... For what? ... Blow jobs??

China surely OWNS Biden - If they want Taiwan - it's GONE!

As long as they take it BEFORE 2025!

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Puerto Rico is always a PITA.

Maybe4 we should give PR to Cuba.
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Thanks for saying my opinion and posted link is accepted by trumpys as fact. You and yours will believe anybody. You can't keep me from showing how stupid y'all are by kneeling before Zod (and me).
I expect to be fact checked but when given the opportunity you give up your chance to me easier than you did to trump.
I'm still calling you a liar. Show a link quoting. your typical type lie.
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thanks for proving my point. the US should have vetoed that resolution and it's Carter' fault we didn't.



Biden has declared that Taiwan belongs to China so don't expect any US subs to prevent China from taking back little sister
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