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1blackman1 · 03-31-2023, 04:42 PM

The court in the Dominion v Fox case didn’t buy any of Fox’s bull shit.
And the court found no truth in any claims that Dominion effected any votes. The court found that Gox was spouting lies regarding the election and granted summary judgment on several issues. The only matter that’ll be decided at trial is whether Fox spouted the lies with actual malice.

Fox’s MSJ was denied. Fox corp’s MSJ was denied. The court found that only a determination of malice need be decided because there’s no real dispute, no matter what was asserted by Fox, that they lied continuously on air across all their hosts and those lies were defamatory.

Gonna be a great trial.

1blackman1 · 03-31-2023, 04:49 PM

In case you fail to grasp what this means, the defendant Fox and Fox corp provided ZERO credible evidence that any fraud existed in the election with respect to Dominion machines as alleged continuously on the air by their hosts and the guests.

The fraud was a lie, Venezuela was a lie, the algorithm claims was a lie, and the kickback claims for was a lie. All lies.

1blackman1 · 03-31-2023, 04:50 PM

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...mmary-judgment

A great read.

Salty Again · 03-31-2023, 04:56 PM

... uh... They're NOT at trial yet. ... Try not to over-excite yourself.

#### Salty

1blackman1 · 03-31-2023, 05:41 PM

Lol. You clearly don’t understand what’s happened. They don’t get to put on any evidence of fraud at trial. That ship has sailed. All they get to do at trial is try to show they didn’t have actual malice.

The_Waco_Kid · 03-31-2023, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

The court in the Dominion v Fox case didn’t buy any of Fox’s bull shit.
And the court found no truth in any claims that Dominion effected any votes. The court found that Gox was spouting lies regarding the election and granted summary judgment on several issues. The only matter that’ll be decided at trial is whether Fox spouted the lies with actual malice.

Fox’s MSJ was denied. Fox corp’s MSJ was denied. The court found that only a determination of malice need be decided because there’s no real dispute, no matter what was asserted by Fox, that they lied continuously on air across all their hosts and those lies were defamatory.

Gonna be a great trial.

all of Dominion's MSJ's were denied too. how many motions for summary judgement did Dominion file and get rejected by the judge?

because it's FOX the press won't cover any of their claims and counter claims. they want to focus only on Dominion and the depositions while taking them out of context on purpose to paint FOX negatively.

you and many others have been waiting in breathless anticipation for FOX to settle. they ain't settling.

there will be many unpleasant things made public in the trial about Dominion. most of this is already known. well before 2020 the Democrats have questioned the security of Dominion systems. their own executives have raised questions. all that FOX has from their own discovery motions. internal emails from Dominion exec's and more.

did you know that in 2016 the Democrats questioned Dominion and other voting system companies (there are only 3 big players) claiming the election was "Stolen" by Trump? bahhaaa. yeah they did.

of course that didn't stop the Dems and their operatives to claim the 2020 election was "the most secure in US history". because they "won". what's the word for that? hypocrites.

FOX has a strong case. reporting news is not a crime .. unless it's FOX it seems. Carlson and Murdoch's (among others at FOX) private comments about the claims of Powell and Rudy and Lindell do not prove FOX had proof the claims were false. only that they were highly skeptical of them. they were still news and merely reporting them does not get Dominion a win in court.

Dominion was ruled a "public figure" by the judge and as a corporate entity they are. that makes their case of defamation harder to prove even in civil court.

FOX has more to stand on than Dominion. see ya at trial.

Precious_b · 03-31-2023, 06:53 PM

It will come out in court.
Many ohh and ahhs in pretrial diversion.

Makes me want to see the Newman film Absence of Malice again.

Ima sure the integrity of foxy Factual Reporting content will save the day

Precious_b · 03-31-2023, 08:45 PM

"...and looking into a certain libel case, this came upon inspection.

"...In a unanimous opinion authored by Justice Brennan, the Court ruled for the Times. When a statement concerns a public figure, the Court held, it is not enough to show that it is false for the press to be liable for libel. Instead, the target of the statement must show that it was made with knowledge of or reckless disregard for its falsity. Brennan used the term "actual malice" to summarize this standard, although he did not intend the usual meaning of a malicious purpose. In libel law, “malice” had meant knowledge or gross recklessness rather than intent, since courts found it difficult to imagine that someone would knowingly disseminate false information without a bad intent. ..."

I'm sure that statement will have some content for the current one.

The_Waco_Kid · 03-31-2023, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Precious_b

"...and looking into a certain libel case, this came upon inspection.

"...In a unanimous opinion authored by Justice Brennan, the Court ruled for the Times. When a statement concerns a public figure, the Court held, it is not enough to show that it is false for the press to be liable for libel. Instead, the target of the statement must show that it was made with knowledge of or reckless disregard for its falsity. Brennan used the term "actual malice" to summarize this standard, although he did not intend the usual meaning of a malicious purpose. In libel law, “malice” had meant knowledge or gross recklessness rather than intent, since courts found it difficult to imagine that someone would knowingly disseminate false information without a bad intent. ..."

I'm sure that statement will have some content for the current one.

quite right. the courts have consistently ruled the press has latitude in reporting claims, and that the burden of proof is on the person making that claim, not the press reporting it.

did i mention that the judge in this case ruled that Dominion is considered a "public figure"?

i did.

1blackman1 · 04-01-2023, 09:58 AM

Read the opinion, I attached it for those that only watch Fox.

Salty Again · 04-01-2023, 01:53 PM

.... We've read it.... Mostly I just looked at the pictures,
like with Playboy.... The legal opinion there don't matter.

Onley the rule.

#### Salty

Precious_b · 04-01-2023, 04:39 PM

Correction Salty. Only the *FINAL* ruling.

It will be interesting to see, if case is broadcast, to see how foxy counters points brought up. And the final interpretation when ruling given.

1blackman1 · 04-26-2023, 06:01 AM

Anyone still sillily arguing that Fox wasn’t telling lies and that it was just covering the news, the actual judges opinion that pretty much led them to settle is above. It was clear that they were objectively making false statements that they and no one else had any proof to support.

They could have just told the truth, surely they could have kept viewers once those viewers calmed down. Unless republicans are just so stupid they can’t handle any truth that conflicts with their world view.