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Old 04-22-2023, 02:49 PM   #16
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The documentary “2000 Mules” does not provide any concrete, verifiable evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election. Technology and election integrity experts consulted by Reuters also did not find the geolocation, surveillance or any other information presented showed plausible evidence of fraud.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL2N2XJ0OQ

Evidence Gaps in ‘2000 Mules’

A conservative film now playing in select theaters around the country isn’t “determinative, definitive” proof of widespread voter fraud, as former President Donald Trump has claimed.

“It’s called ‘2000 Mules,'” Trump said at a rally in Pennsylvania on May 7, “and basically [Joe] Biden didn’t get the votes, but he did get the ballots, okay, in a sense. But it’s an incredible, it’s an incredible documentary. … This exposes the fraud like nothing else.”

But the supposed evidence is speculative and does not provide the “definitive” proof that Trump and the filmmakers claim.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/06/ev...in-2000-mules/

FACT FOCUS: Gaping holes in the claim of 2K ballot ‘mules’

A film debuting in over 270 theaters across the United States this week uses a flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election nearly 18 months after it ended.

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midt...fa5c6dac406762

A Big Lie in a New Package

A new documentary from Trump allies makes the latest case the election was stolen, but the group behind the claim has been assailed even by some on the hard right.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/29/u...cy-theory.html
I read the Reuters piece...they're "evidence" consists of them saying that it is not true but they present no evidence. They speak of the video backups in Georgia by saying, "we didn't get to look at them" but we think that they're fake too. They run some pieces about how accurate geo-tracking is but don't show how this pertains to their claims. All in all, a weak defense without any proof (you know the feeling) for their claims. They expect people like you to believe them...and you do!
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Old 04-22-2023, 02:54 PM   #17
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... Why do you keep using the term "WIDESPREAD" Voter Fraud??

Are you agreeing that there was voter fraud??

One form of voter fraud is to hide the contents of
the Hunter laptop from the America people.
And right before the election.

... You must have missed that.

The Hunter laptop that offours PROOF that Hunter and
VP Joe used that position to enrich themselves with
"pay-for-play" deals with other nations.

Surely gotta wonder HOW those deals could happen
with OBama being President then...
I'd surely like to ask him - but OBama aint talking.

So THIS is where the Trumpers are looking now.
And paying attention.

#### Salty
Yes, the universal modifier..."widespread voter fraud". Like assault weapons, a made up term adopted by too many on both sides of the argument. All it took for the "win" was narrow, focused fraud in a few key states and unethical behavior like outlined in the Times article about how they help steal the election. Now we know about the laptop and the efforts to steal the election by keeping its existence away from voters. Polling shows that if the laptop had been known by the electorate, Biden would not have won anything.

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Old 04-22-2023, 05:34 PM   #18
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Ok, there’s no evidence of narrow spread voter fraud either. There’s some single and rare instances of voter fraud by both parties but none sufficient to make any difference in all but the smaller election like a school board seat. There’s no voter fraud which had any impact on any election of consequence.

Salty, stop with the lies. There’s been nothing on the Hunter laptop provided this far which showed any proof of illegality by Joe. The only reason the republicans wanted the laptop released around the election (even though they had it long prior) was to make a lot of innuendo and suggestion that couldn’t be vetted pre-vote in hopes people would think there was something there even though there wasn’t. If you wanna have a honest conversation at least be honest.

Is there ever gonna be a moment where you rightys don’t use lies to try and support uour position.
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Old 04-22-2023, 11:53 PM   #19
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Yes, the universal modifier..."widespread voter fraud". Like assault weapons, a made up term adopted by too many on both sides of the argument. All it took for the "win" was narrow, focused fraud in a few key states and unethical behavior like outlined in the Times article about how they help steal the election. Now we know about the laptop and the efforts to steal the election by keeping its existence away from voters. Polling shows that if the laptop had been known by the electorate, Biden would not have won anything.

List of villains:
Biden family
Big Tech
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Time magazine
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and the Chinese (I couldn't resist that one)



Trump never released his taxes....Biden did


People still don't give a shit about some fucking laptop
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Old 04-23-2023, 08:22 AM   #20
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I read the Reuters piece...they're "evidence" consists of them saying that it is not true but they present no evidence. They speak of the video backups in Georgia by saying, "we didn't get to look at them" but we think that they're fake too. They run some pieces about how accurate geo-tracking is but don't show how this pertains to their claims. All in all, a weak defense without any proof (you know the feeling) for their claims. They expect people like you to believe them...and you do!
You do understand that the claims of fraud rest on the accusers, not the accused. Every claim made by DSouza in his "movie" has been debunked. Could it have happened in the manner described? Yes. Likelihood that it happened. Close to zero.

But even if "mules" did gather ballots and delivered them to voting precincts, there is no proof that a single fraudulent vote was cast. Just another ridiculous attempt by Trump and his supporters to cast doubt on a fair election.
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Old 04-24-2023, 06:45 PM   #21
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Nice way to start a thread about hunter man. If the megas cant defend then it's all about hunter hunter hunter. Intelligence or memory deficit???

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They have no other records to play. It’s Trumpy or nothing.
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