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03-09-2023, 01:22 PM
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So how do people actually get sick with a Virus? During the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic a Doctor Milton Rosenau conducted some experiments where by he had 100 Healthy subjects with no prior history of Influenza. He exposed them to Military Personnel who were obviously ill with Influenza. Oddly enough none of the subjects he used in his experiments became ill. The clip below is an account of his experiments and findings. The second Clip is of Dr. Tom Barnett who explains some interesting facts about Viral infections.
https://www.ggarchives.com/Influenza...1918-1919.html
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MrUImkbTGBA3/
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That's a very interesting study. It doesn't change my mind though. I'm sure you could come up with a hundred studies that show influenza and coronaviruses cause infectious diseases for every one like Rosenau's.
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03-09-2023, 02:33 PM
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That's a very interesting study. It doesn't change my mind though. I'm sure you could come up with a hundred studies that show influenza and coronaviruses cause infectious diseases for every one like Rosenau's.
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His point wasn't that the Flu and Corona don't cause Disease but rather he couldn't infect someone from an external source to cause the Disease. I am not sure why Rosenau's subjects didn't get sick but if you can find a similar study where by subjects were purposely made sick post it.
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03-10-2023, 12:10 PM
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03-13-2023, 03:14 PM
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heh.. I'm going to keep it live, so in the fall, people will remember when it was still a conspiracy theory...lol.
Math is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
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03-13-2023, 10:12 PM
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interesting. cancer rates increased after 2020.
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03-14-2023, 11:20 AM
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interesting. cancer rates increased after 2020.
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No. Lung and colon dropped. Thats the drop in people not going in to see their doctor during the lockdown.... then 6 months after the jab are mandated, ALL cancers listed on the right started to uptick.
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03-14-2023, 11:49 AM
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I died from net neutrality and tax cuts a few years back.
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03-14-2023, 12:22 PM
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Shhh! Don't tell Salty, but his kin folk be dropping like fruit bats back in the homeland
Even trying to jigger with the data, the numbers are still devastating. Without the jiggering, the are far worse.
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Shocking Study Out of Australia Shows up to a 26 Fold Increase in Excess Mortality in 2021 and 2022. Consistent With American Insurance Companies Findings.
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Based on the data Dr. Sy analyzed, he was able to conclude that excess deaths increased from 1,582 in 2020 to 10,912 in 2021 and 22,837 in 2022 (thru September). He estimates the 2022 final number will be around 30,449, or more than 19 times the “pandemic year” of 2020.
He also concluded that “All Cause Mortality” began to significantly trend upward in 2021 as evidenced in the chart below:
According to Dr. Sy, Australia “moved the goal posts” for 2022: they changed the baseline definitions for calculating excess mortality by taking the average excess deaths of only four years, 2017-2019 and 2021, skipping 2020, rather than the “normal” baseline of the previous five consecutive years:
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03-14-2023, 02:53 PM
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I died from net neutrality and tax cuts a few years back.
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I'm holding out for climate change to get me one day. Preferably while dining at the Y.
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03-14-2023, 05:27 PM
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Even trying to jigger with the data, the numbers are still devastating. Without the jiggering, the are far worse.
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Australia .. weren't they one of those draconian "lockdown" nations? like China?
how's that working out for them?
bahahahahahhaaa
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I'm holding out for climate change to get me one day. Preferably while dining at the Y.
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according to AOC we only have ten years left to live anyway. so ..
bahahahhaaaa
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03-15-2023, 05:24 AM
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If the bearer of bad news takes a dump in the woods...
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I'm holding out for climate change to get me one day. Preferably while dining at the Y.
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Sorry to be the one to break the news to you, but climate change has been waived off. It has a really bad track record and it's just not working out after all. Sorry about that kido.
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Nolte: Greta Thunberg Deletes Tweet Predicting Irreversible Disaster by… 2023
Greta “Damien” Thunberg was forced to delete a tweet predicting the world could no longer be saved in 2023.
So why did she delete this tweet?
Because we’re already a quarter of the way through 2023, and if the world can no longer be saved, if it’s too late to reverse climate change (which is a hoax), Greta and her fascist agenda are no longer relevant. After all, if it’s too late to save the world, we might as well party on, right?
Here’s what happened…
In June of 2018, the high school dropout tweeted a quote from an article predicting, “climate change [which is a hoax] will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years.”
In other words, the point of no return is 2023. In other words, nothing can be done if we do not stop using fossil fuels by 2023. Well, if nothing can be done, that means the entire environmental movement might as well pack up and go home. What’s the use of doing anything if it’s too late? If we’re doomed, Greta might as well get off the stage and live the life she would have without all the artificial establishment hype around her—and that life would be behind a convenience store cash register...
By my count, this is the 54th prediction these enviro-fascists have had to take back. Throughout my misspent life, various politicians, “experts,” and scientists have made 54 dire predictions about the environment, and not one of them—not one!—has come true.
The environmental movement is 0-54.
Why would any listen to a group of fabulists who are 0-54?
Suppose a scientist knocked on your door and warned that a meteor would hit and destroy your house within the next six months…. What would you do? Well, you’d move out, of course. But let’s say the meteor didn’t hit, and then six months later, this same scientist knocked on the door of your new house and warned of another meteor. What would you do? Would you move out or laugh in his face? Now try to imagine your reaction if this happened 54 times!
That’s the environmental movement...
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03-15-2023, 10:01 PM
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scaring people is their game.
TO climate believers...
IT IS A SCAM!!!!
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03-16-2023, 09:14 AM
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Slowly they turn. Inch by inch...
Ni-agar-a Falls!! Drip! Drip! Drip!
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15 Days to Flatten the Truth
Column | March 1, 2023 | by Ann Coulter
It made news this week when The Lancet, a once-respected medical journal, finally admitted that there’s such a thing as “natural immunity” with COVID. (Is it too much to hope that, in another three years, The Lancet will cease referring to women as “bodies with vaginas”?)
Several months into “15 days to flatten the curve,” actual experts, like the Great Barrington Declaration scientists, began screaming from the rooftops about natural immunity. They argued — correctly, as it turns out — that we should protect the vulnerable while allowing those not at risk to go about their lives, get COVID and acquire immunity.
Millions upon millions of wrecked lives later (including 170,000 excess non-COVID deaths), the people who lied to us for their own selfish motives — getting on TV, high ratings for their panic porn, the joys of bossing other people around — are quietly admitting the truth.
Contrary to hysterical warnings in 2020 that “people you know” will die from COVID and “it’s definitely not just the flu,” I still don’t know anyone who knows anyone who died from COVID. For most people, it was “just the flu.”
How could the truth about natural immunity be suppressed for so long? At least there weren’t repeated studies during our COVID hell proving the strength and durability of immunity from a prior COVID infection.
Oh, except these:
May 2021: Washington University School of Medicine study finds “robust” antibodies still present at least 11 months after infection.
June 2021: Cleveland Clinic study finds no benefit from vaccination to those with natural immunity.
July 2021: Emory University Vaccine Center study finds “durable and broad immune memory after SARS-CoV-2 infection.”
August 2021: Israel study finds natural immunity “confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization” than two shots of the vaccine.
But medical journals, the mainstream media and “public health authorities” dismissed the notion that a prior COVID infection served any useful purpose. Those who mentioned it were treated like flat-earthers.
Days after the Great Barrington Declaration was released, the man chosen by President Donald Trump to lead the country’s response to COVID, Anthony Fauci, and Trump’s director of the National Institutes of Health, Francis Collins, colluded to ensure there would be a “quick and devastating published takedown” of the declaration.
As we now know, Twitter dutifully shadow-banned at least one of the signatories, Jay Bhattacharya.
Governors who followed the science — as opposed to Anthony THE SCIENCE Fauci — and opened their states were ripped in deranged headlines.
— “God Save the Florida Governor From His Stupidity” — The New Republic
“Georgia’s Experiment in Human Sacrifice” — The Atlantic. (President Trump also criticized the state, after a careful examination of the scientific evidence, no doubt.)
The final score on age-adjusted COVID deaths by state proves that the shutdowns accomplished absolutely nothing. Florida, for example, did way better than New York, New Jersey, West Virginia and Washington, D.C. — all top 10 “most aggressive” lockdown states. New Jersey did a lot worse than Wyoming, Kansas and Missouri, three of the least locked-down states. Whatever the explanation for the death rates — ethnicity, wealth, education, population density — it’s clearly not about how masked and locked-down a state was.
The Lancet’s long-delayed admission sent me to Nexis to review the important medical advice I’d been getting from MSNBC’s TV doctors.
— “The 11th Hour With Brian Williams,” June 7, 2020
Dr. Murtaza Akhter, clinical assistant professor at the University of Arizona College of Medicine: “Natural immunity is fine for a little bit. But that is not the way to protect yourself. The way to protect yourself from COVID is by being vaccinated and by just not getting it.”
— “All In With Chris Hayes,” Oct. 18, 2021
Dr. Syra Madad, an infectious disease epidemiologist and senior director of the Special Pathogens Program at New York Health and Hospitals system: “With natural infection … it’s like playing a game of Russian roulette. … You know, through natural infection, you’re risking a whole lot, not just yourself, but you know, for the community.”
— “Andrea Mitchell Reports,” Oct. 27, 2021
Dr. Vin Gupta, NBC News medical contributor (in one of hundreds of appearances on MSNBC, I’m sure to the delight of his overworked colleagues): “People relying on natural protection, those antibodies are just not where they need to be to prevent an infection.”
— “The 11th Hour With Brian Williams,” Nov. 18, 2021
Gupta: “Natural immunity is 20% as effective at keeping you out of the hospital, in preventing serious illness. … It’s not nearly as effective as vaccine-induced immunity.”
— “The ReidOut With Joy Reid,” Jan. 10, 2022
Dr. Kavita Patel, MSNBC medical contributor: “Here’s the problem with natural immunity. It doesn’t last at the same levels forever.”
You couldn’t get the truth about a worldwide pandemic that led to catastrophic responses from public health authorities, but at least MSNBC’s doctors were “diverse”!
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I left out the links to all of the various studies mentioned in the above article accidentally.
Yeah, that's the ticket -- accidentally.
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03-16-2023, 03:21 PM
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Ni-agar-a Falls!! Drip! Drip! Drip!
I left out the links to all of the various studies mentioned in the above article accidentally.
Yeah, that's the ticket -- accidentally.
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Well you can't spell "control the population" if you're going to let natural immunity be a real thing.
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03-17-2023, 08:08 AM
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Well you can't spell "control the population" if you're going to let natural immunity be a real thing.
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"Overall, the "analysis suggests that the level of protection from past infection by variant and over time is at least equivalent if not greater than that provided by two-dose mRNA vaccines," the researchers wrote.
However, they noted that vaccination remains the recommended route to immunity against COVID-19 since there are still considerable risks from infection, particularly among those who are unvaccinated.
" The problem of saying 'I'm gonna get infected to get immunity' is you might be one of those people that end up in the hospital or die," said Christopher Murray, the director of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington and the study's senior author. " Why would you take the risk when you can get immunity through vaccination quite safely?""
https://www.advisory.com/daily-brief...t%2040%20weeks.
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