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Old 12-20-2022, 03:41 PM   #1
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Default Is asking a provider to model first still a decent screening tool?

Heard years ago that one way to sort out real working providers from sting cops is to only ask them to model for nudes initially and not ask for anything else sexual. Supposedly a real cop isn't going to risk having her photos released out to the world while "working girls" really won't care.
How much bullshit is this advise?
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Old 12-21-2022, 12:35 AM   #2
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Heard years ago that one way to sort out real working providers from sting cops is to only ask them to model for nudes initially and not ask for anything else sexual. Supposedly a real cop isn't going to risk having her photos released out to the world while "working girls" really won't care.
How much bullshit is this advise?
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...legit providers will "model" for photos. The ones who will don't have much else to lose.
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Old 12-21-2022, 08:57 PM   #3
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Model in person or online? Definitely agree with you if it's in person.

Anyone can find a few photos or a video to send to you.
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Old 12-22-2022, 08:59 AM   #4
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I always bring my camera to a hotel incall and if i'm asked why i'm there I just say i'm picking up a model for a photoshoot. If they ask what her name is I give her handle and say I only know her modelling name. I would say no undercover officer would agree to nude photos just to get a bust.
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Old 12-24-2022, 07:10 AM   #5
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I always bring my camera to a hotel incall and if i'm asked why i'm there I just say i'm picking up a model for a photoshoot. If they ask what her name is I give her handle and say I only know her modelling name. I would say no undercover officer would agree to nude photos just to get a bust.
You might want to be careful doing this.. If she a cop she won't get nude but she will most likely lie.

And if the lady is "known" they can still harass you and it becomes your word against theirs.

Now if you DO get a lady cop that DOES let you take photos with a true camera, get some on your phone and LOCK it after you send them to a cloud storage!

Your phone is protected and will need a search warrant, your camera is NOT protected.

Once its in a cloud storage (or even better you sent it to a trusted friend) the odds of any case sticking becomes iffy since you have photos of a NUDE police officer which would show they are willing to break the law
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Old 12-24-2022, 01:02 PM   #6
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Thanks that's good info!
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Old 12-25-2022, 02:54 PM   #7
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The plain old advise, I think is/was
1. Never to talk or show money (or gifts) anytime anywhere if possible before the meeting.
2. When you meet face to face in real life, hug, kiss(LFK) and reach under her bra, to squeeze her boobies...

If its a cop/sting, the kiss and later stuff will not happen, they will "catch you" but they will not have any proof to arrest you, if you can keep your mouth shut and not panic in the following hours.

I think people have written their real world experiences when they were caught in the sting, here in this forum, do read them...

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Old 12-25-2022, 02:58 PM   #8
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You might want to be careful doing this.. If she a cop she won't get nude but she will most likely lie.

And if the lady is "known" they can still harass you and it becomes your word against theirs.

Now if you DO get a lady cop that DOES let you take photos with a true camera, get some on your phone and LOCK it after you send them to a cloud storage!

Your phone is protected and will need a search warrant, your camera is NOT protected.

Once its in a cloud storage (or even better you sent it to a trusted friend) the odds of any case sticking becomes iffy since you have photos of a NUDE police officer which would show they are willing to break the law
Once data is generated, I personally would not trust any commercially available digital lock or locking mechanism.

yes, if you wrote the locking software code and method, and know your shit you can probably trust it, but there will be some other smart ass who can still break it.
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Old 12-26-2022, 09:51 AM   #9
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Once data is generated, I personally would not trust any commercially available digital lock or locking mechanism.

yes, if you wrote the locking software code and method, and know your shit you can probably trust it, but there will be some other smart ass who can still break it.
no digital or mechanical lock is safe but if you emailed/texted it to a trusted friend then they have to go to that friend. And you can do this: Have a back up Gmail account that you email it to but only you know the password to and its not one mapped to your phone or PC. The account has bs ownership info.

Cops see it was sent to "Evidence@Gmail.com" they now have to get a subpoena for Google to access this evidence. And if you want to compound their headaches, instead of you only having access another person does and when you email the photos to that account, you send them a pre-determined text message to tell them to access, download the photos the DELETE the email if not the entire gmail account. Now they have the evidence, the cops have to go through the legal dance for them and digital photos can be hidden on micro SD cards in places cops won't find.

Long story short is that if you plan a bit the cops most likely won't pursue you. Odds are if you ask the lady to take off her clothes for a few nude photos and she refuses, leave immediately.
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Please do not contact professional providers and ask this. You will more than likely be put on a DNS list. There are ways to screen providers to understand their legitimacy. Remember, nothing is 100% for sure in this arena. All you can do is use tools to research and mitigate risks by being smart. Good luck!❤️
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Old 01-07-2023, 04:40 PM   #11
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To the fu**tard that ended up in my DMs and anyone else who thinks this is a good way to screen ladies; let me break it down for ya:
Beautiful cop posts an ad with hot pics. You think with your little head and call. You say, ehhhh I don’t know how to verify which ladies are legit, so I’ll just ask her to nude model. She says great, see ya soon. You walk in and are cuffed. No nude modeling, no explaining yourself, no fuc*ing nothing. You’re going to jail. Yes, your lawyer can plead it down since all you wanted is nude modeling. Great! Your name and mugshot were already in the paper. You already went to jail,If that’s cool with you….

Second scenario: You call a legitimate companion. You ask for nude modeling. She tells you gtfo, because you’re acting stupid and are probably a waste of time.

If you still don’t get it, I don’t know what to tell you. I can’t fix stupid, and I’ve never had any trouble, because I’m not stupid. I probably made grammatical errors in my haste,but gawd you guys are killing me.��♀️��♀️��♀️
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Old 01-07-2023, 07:45 PM   #12
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[QUOTE You say, ehhhh I don’t know how to verify which ladies are legit, so I’ll just ask her to nude model. She says great, see ya soon. You walk in and are cuffed. No nude modeling, no explaining yourself, no fuc*ing nothing. You’re going to jail. Yes, your lawyer can plead it down since all you wanted is nude modeling. Great! Your name and mugshot were already in the paper. [/QUOTE]

Why would a guy get busted? There is no law against taking nude photos of a "Model" I've been doing it for 30 years...
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Old 01-08-2023, 12:12 AM   #13
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Why would a guy get busted? There is no law against taking nude photos of a "Model" I've been doing it for 30 years...
Because you don't have to be guilty to get arrested. They can charge you with anything and give you a ride downtown, finger print you, and publish your mugshot. Your attorney would eventually get the case dismissed due to lack of evidence, but you have already made the news and paid your attorney thousands of dollars.
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Old 01-08-2023, 11:15 PM   #14
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Because you don't have to be guilty to get arrested. They can charge you with anything and give you a ride downtown, finger print you, and publish your mugshot. Your attorney would eventually get the case dismissed due to lack of evidence, but you have already made the news and paid your attorney thousands of dollars.
If that happens. For sure the cop city or whomever I have to sue is going to court for wrongful arrest and all the stuff that you mentioned.
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Old 01-09-2023, 08:29 PM   #15
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This thread is more funny than watching former White House AIDS getting perp walked in front of national television!
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