Free Bird

[HDGristle]

You're not connecting your dots correctly, berry. Read it again.

We'll wait.

Start with where a specific assertion was made. Make sure you know what "that" was in reference to and then see if you can stick the landing.

You won't. But we can absolutely go into a treatise on whether performance in and of itself would ultimately be shielded from Griggs in another thread if you'd like.

[berryberry]

Elon Musk Purges Thousands More Twitter Employees – No One Notices The Difference

A good measure of the value of an employee to a company is if their absence makes things more difficult for everyone else, or their absence is barely noticed. If an employee makes no difference and adds no value then there is no point in keeping them around.

Twitter is quickly becoming a blaring example of this issue. Alleged leaks from within the company suggest that most employees under previous management barely worked and are devout “communists” with a hatred of free speech. The leaks also claim that Twitter employees were far more concerned with censoring conservative voices than doing their jobs.

From comments made on social media by employees since Musk's takeover, it appears that these rumors are correct.

For many years now Twitter has operated less like a company and more like a cult compound for leftist ideologues, with free lunches, yoga rooms, smoothie bars, wine bars, expresso bars, and minimal work buffered by pointless meetings and near zero productivity. The company runs a collectivist daycare for overgrown children; 7500 of them along with 5500 outside contractors.

Musk fired at least 3500 primary staff members and it is also recently reported that he has purged at least 4500 outside contractors, many of them moderators tasked with filtering “misinformation”. Interestingly, Twitter users have not noticed much of a difference in terms of functionality for the platform despite the mass layoffs. The only difference has been the ability to speak more freely.

Initial reports of the firings led people to speculate that Musk's actions might be “heavy handed” and that, surely, a lot of employees have nothing to do with the politically motivated side of the platform. However, employee comments suggest that an internal agenda to sabotage the site is underway, justified by purely political ideals, as well as angry reactions to basic responsibilities such as showing up to work for 40 hours a week. Musk's call for free speech on the platform has also elicited a flurry of vitriol, not only from former Twitter management but also a host of average workers.

The mainstream media argues that Musk's firings of employees attacking his takeover is hypocritical because it runs contrary to his free speech ideals. This is a rather ignorant notion often employed by leftists as a means to undermine otherwise logical and legitimate measures by free speech advocates to protect themselves from subversion. Employees on the job do not have free speech rights, and are not protected from being fired if their goal is to throw a monkey wrench into the company's functionality or survivability.

Employees are paid to do a specific job, and while opinions on the overall operation of the business might be valuable, these views should be expressed privately rather than as a vain attempt to engage in activism and get attention. In the past few years American culture has seen a complete degradation of work ethic that revolves around the idea that workers should have a collective say in the decisions and greater purpose of the company. It is most prevalent in Big Tech and it's a disaster that needs to be corrected.

It's only been a few weeks since Twitter came under new ownership and the future of the company remains uncertain. There are millions of people expecting changes to happen quickly and expecting past wrongs to be righted immediately. These things take time and it will be interesting to see how Twitter develops in the coming months without the obsessively biased influence of political zealots.

One thing that does provide hope is the employee layoffs. Very few if any of these people have offered anything but rage in response to Musk's plan for more free speech and it is clear that the site cannot move forward with such workers still attached. In other words, these people are getting exactly what they deserve, and it may be prudent for Elon Musk to fire almost everyone and relocate the Twitter HQ to another city and state in due course.

In the meantime, watching censor-happy extremists lose their power and their positions of influence has been perhaps the most enjoyable part of this year so far.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ces-difference

[berryberry]

ELON MUSK: “Deplatforming a sitting President undermined public trust in Twitter for half of America.”

[Jacuzzme]

Commentators on the “news” shows were losing their shit this morning. It’s odd that they don’t do the same with Zuckerberg, who not only censors half the country, but pumps tens of millions into elections. I’ve never seen such panic over allowing people to speak their minds.

[berryberry]

The corrupt media is afraid of Free Speech being restored on Twitter because they know that will limit their ability to lie repeatedly to the American people and control the narrative

Liberals and the mainstream media applauded the suppression of millions of conservatives, including President Trump. They now have their panties in a twist that everybody has an equally free voice. It is not that libtards are being suppressed in any way whatsoever. They’re just enraged that conservatives no longer are.

[eyecu2]

Lies+Free Speech=Alternative facts
___________________
Facts + Free speech=Truth


Does not equal the same thing.

You cuck-servatives must be shitty at math.

Twitter will be reduced to a graveyard, as followers are dropping off faster than expected, and mass resignations continue. Musk took a tool and is crashing it into the rails. He should let someone who knows how to run a social media platform take over the operations and just play the role of manager owner. Letting ppl vote thumbs up or down was how the Romans used to get pardons for lives of the gladiators. And like Rome, people only go to Twitter to view the political carnage that both sides shovel at one another.

Should that be an un-checked fist fight arena, where anything goes?

I'm betting some of your folks from 4ch and other un-moderated sites are thinking so. But I'm betting that the good thinking folks who advertise or pay on there will not stay if it's reduced to a shit show

[Jacuzzme]

Censorship is not equal to moderation. It is, in fact, the opposite. I’m not so sure it’s conservatives who need brushing up on their arithmetic.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Lies+Free Speech=Alternative facts
___________________
Facts + Free speech=Truth


Does not equal the same thing.

You cuck-servatives must be shitty at math.

Twitter will be reduced to a graveyard, as followers are dropping off faster than expected, and mass resignations continue. Musk took a tool and is crashing it into the rails. He should let someone who knows how to run a social media platform take over the operations and just play the role of manager owner.

Seems you are the one bad at math as well as facts. I guess when you rely on the corrupt mainstream media to feed you their fake narrative, that happens. But what you posted could not be furthest from the truth. So either you are severely misinformed or you have chosen to lie yet again.

Slides and data from Elon himself from his Twitter company talk. Tell me again now exactly how Twitter will be reduced to a graveyard, followers are dropping, and Musk is crashing twitter into the rails when all the data shows exactly the opposite of what you state?

[eyecu2]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/e...al-2022-10-25/
I would be more apt to believe the corporate reporting and internal memos of Twitter prior to take over, as to the direction of the company.


Musks' self-reported statistics of Twitter?

What could be suspect in that??


For one, They shut the offices down because of mass walkouts and resignations. Two the dust up about anyone wanting to work there would have to do much more and prove the worth of their job.
Third- skeleton crews are only efficient down to a minimally viable contingent, and they're there. Forth, in the past week there have been times when Twitter outages occurred for durations quite abnormal to the company's prior operations, which would indicate that low crew contingency. Fifth, when a platform becomes less reliable, unstable, or has dramatic changes in policy and operations, they tend to lose users.

Dude, Musk is on full damage control right now. Will it be enough to keep that platform going, or will the outstream of patrons and money be the death spiral?

Time will tell.

But please tell me how Elons self represented slides are impervious to him putting both thumbs on the scale while he watches his 44 bbl investment heading southerly.

Just like his Tesla stock is btw.

I got nothing against Elon, but deciding on policy for publicity and amending those to please current Twitter users, and hopefully bringing back the easy pickings of the prior suspended accounts is a ruse to increase platform volume.

If it was so easy to add new users, why not leave the suspended ones alone? It's simple, it's a shrinking, or saturated market of subscribers, and new users are using other platforms. When Twitter was the only show in town, yes you might see additional growth, but now there are at least three or four other mainstream channels, and several underground pieces of shit, that many anarchist types like to use.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

I would be more apt to believe the corporate reporting and internal memos of Twitter prior to take over, as to the direction of the company.

Of course you would believe the corrupt libtard media

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Musks' self-reported statistics of Twitter?
What could be suspect in that??

- Any employee at Twitter likely can access this information and could call it out if it was bullshit - since you know, it WAS presented at an internal Twitter company meeting

Originally Posted by eyecu2

For one, They shut the offices down because of mass walkouts and resignations. Two the dust up about anyone wanting to work there would have to do much more and prove the worth of their job.

Thanks for confirming you know nothing about how business works. Twitter was massively overstaffed. They shut the offices down when they were firing half the staff that was not needed. A company does that to prevent sabotage by employees fired. Later Musk laid out his vision to those remaining and wanted to know who was all in or not. Those who were not got shown the door. Perfect. Why would any company want employees who were not committed to doing their job and embracing the new direction of the company

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Third- skeleton crews are only efficient down to a minimally viable contingent, and they're there. Forth, in the past week there have been times when Twitter outages occurred for durations quite abnormal to the company's prior operations, which would indicate that low crew contingency. Fifth, when a platform becomes less reliable, unstable, or has dramatic changes in policy and operations, they tend to lose users.

What part of Twitter was massively overstaffed do you not understand? Do you even know the types of garbage departments that were eliminated? Do you understand how programming and websites work? How many people do you think are needed to keep a site running once it is designed and operational?

And nope, there have been no outages of note as much as you wish there was. Daily use is way up and its all working great

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Just like his Tesla stock is btw.

You do realize he knew Tesla stock was too high a year ago which is why he sold a bunch of it in 2021 and 2022

Originally Posted by eyecu2

I got nothing against Elon, but deciding on policy for publicity and amending those to please current Twitter users, and hopefully bringing back the easy pickings of the prior suspended accounts is a ruse to increase platform volume. If it was so easy to add new users, why not leave the suspended ones alone?

Nope - it is clear you dislike Elon. And since when is supporting free speech "publicity". Supporting free speech and restoring those users unfairly suspended is the right thing to do. Why are you so against free speech?

Why do you hate America?

You are upset because all of the suspended users were conservatives.

You are upset, just like the crying media, that now the libtards will not be able to control the narrative and censor speech and facts they don't like. Oh like the whole Hunter Biden story in 2020 in order to cheat to steal an election

Originally Posted by eyecu2

If it was so easy to add new users, why not leave the suspended ones alone? It's simple, it's a shrinking, or saturated market of subscribers, and new users are using other platforms.

LOL what other platform. You are grasping at straws because as usual you have nothing else

[eyecu2]

Again your bloviation on motives is that Elon is a good guy who just eliminated superfluous departments that meant no value to this company. They were just experimental handout paychecks from the original CEO Jack Dorsey. Yes that's exactly how business works in the world of BerryX2. (Sarcasm)

You make up rules that fit your narrative, and will accept blindly anybody else's proof that support the position you would like to portray, or should I say the one that you have copy / pasted and believe in.

I love America and all the good things we stand for. I could do less with the mouthpieces who are sellouts for publicity and calling it about protection of rights.

Is the company on decline?

Yes it is!

https://www.businessinsider.com/twit...report-2022-10

Addition input would be that ppl are less interested in celebrity ideology and even things like crypto currency, who were some of the LARGEST heavy tweeters.

If you want to believe that Twitter is growing and surging, I'd suggest that you look at the stock performance and I remind you that upon acquisition the following happened.

Upon acquiring Twitter, Musk promptly fired several top executives, including previous CEO Parag Agrawal. Musk has since proposed several reforms to Twitter and laid off half of the company's workforce. Hundreds of employees then resigned from the company after Musk issued an ultimatum demanding they commit to "extremely hardcore" work.

These are the two areas I mentioned prior and are not refuted. Further Musk is scrambling to hire programmers and coders after the exit. The site was even down due to a loss of restorative engineers to the site.

Yeah ...he's really running that shit like a swiss watch ...a swiss watch that was sitting under an elephant who was crushed by political dump truck. The New great business model started out as selling the blue bird validation outside for a small premium- Now you can get a bluebird validation or the new idea of Twitter Blue in the name of free speech. (Cept the freedom is 19.99 per month- so not so free)

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/el...010437330.html

Let's summize-

Let me see if I follow you BX2,... Elon is really a good guy who's going to change a free platform into a pay to use platform because that's how you get freedom of speech, and the reductions and staff and lack of stability to the site, where by design and not some other cause?

Is that what you would really like everyone here to believe you think?

I think an awful lot of conservatives thought this guy was going to come in and just turn all the conservative accounts back on, and it was going to be glorious, and the Republicans were going to own the libs. Doesn't seem to be the case at all based on what I've posted.

I could be wrong,but we both know I'm not.

[berryberry]

Sigh.

There you go again. Wrong yet again. And ignoring all the facts

You would think after a while it would get tiring for you to keep being so oblivious to actual facts and instead spreading misinformation. But I guess that is just what you do

But since you claim to know business so well, enlighten us on why Twitter needed departments devoted to climate change, United Nations human rights, communications, machine learning ethics and public policy? Please tell us how these departments contributed to what a user tweets or reads?

Come on - I will wait.

Originally Posted by eyecu2

If you want to believe that Twitter is growing and surging, I'd suggest that you look at the stock performance

Now you are really showing how out of your depth you are. But enlighten us, show us the stock performance since Elon purchased it. This ought to be good

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Upon acquiring Twitter, Musk promptly fired several top executives, including previous CEO Parag Agrawal. Musk has since proposed several reforms to Twitter and laid off half of the company's workforce. Hundreds of employees then resigned from the company after Musk issued an ultimatum demanding they commit to "extremely hardcore" work.

What part of "Twitter was massively overstaffed. They shut the offices down when they were firing half the staff that was not needed. A company does that to prevent sabotage by employees fired. Later Musk laid out his vision to those remaining and wanted to know who was all in or not. Those who were not got shown the door. Perfect. Why would any company want employees who were not committed to doing their job and embracing the new direction of the company" did you not understand? I explained all this already

But come on, tell us why Twitter needed 7,500 employees plus additional countless outside contractors?

Originally Posted by eyecu2

I could be wrong,but we both know I'm not.

You not only are wrong, but dead wrong. But you keep googling away to try and educate yourself. Of course given the libtard media sources you rely upon, all you end up doing is looking sillier with each post

[berryberry]

It's beginning. Long live free speech

[berryberry]

More progress for free speech !!!

Twitter has stopped enforcing it’s COVID-19 Misinformation Policy as of November 23rd



Under Twitter’s COVID-19 Misinformation Policy:

11.72M accounts were “challenged”
11,230 accounts were Suspended
97,674 pieces of content were removed

Just think how many of those accounts were wrongfully suspended and how much accurate content was wrongfully removed

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by berryberry

But since you claim to know business so well, enlighten us on why Twitter needed departments devoted to climate change, United Nations human rights, communications, machine learning ethics and public policy? Please tell us how these departments contributed to what a user tweets or reads?


What part of "Twitter was massively overstaffed.

They shut the offices down when they were firing half the staff that was not needed.

A company does that to prevent sabotage by employees fired. Later Musk laid out his vision to those remaining and wanted to know who was all in or not. Those who were not got shown the door. Perfect.

Why would any company want employees who were not committed to doing their job and embracing the new direction of the company" did you not understand?

The amount of supportive contractors or full-time employees is relative to the areas that the company's prior leadership felt were important. Clearly- you don't think things like the following matter, so you would likely stop any oversight or have ppl with knowledge of the same on staff to ensure that nobody was selling snake-oil or taking advantage of others on a platform that YOU would be responsible for.

• climate change,
• Human rights,
• Communications,
• Machine learning ethics,
• public policy

For many in the world, climate change is not only important,it's critical and having knowledge of that interest and concern is how companies keep the discussion level and the alternative facts crew from stating factless and baseless claims, on either side, from being the focus, vs. the concern itself.

Human Rights issues, have been a focus of almost all governments and certainly the USA when it comes to how we deal with countries and governments in oppressive governments. BerryX2, you yourself have condemned Biden for asking countries like Venezuela, from being our source of immediate oil, and the Biden admin from approaching them because you don't believe in their politics, or the way they treat the people in that country. Essentially, if you as a conservative hate, socialism, and socialists in general, you are saying you don't like the situation regarding human rights, and all that entails. Sounds like Hypocrisy to me.

Communications- every company in America over 100 ppl, have someone at the helm of communications. Add to the fact that Twitter is a global company and deals with all the different dialects/ and languages and customs from each of those countries, and yes, you likely would need both leadership, and contractor support to understand that saying things like "ich bin ein Berliner". means I am a donut in german, vs. I'm like you. JFK found out the same way. Additionally, setting the tone and what things are ok, vs. not ok to say, per policy (which obviously can change with leadership) needs to be in place. Removing any policy leads to anarchy and people will leave. Hence the most recent report from platformer:
https://www.platformer.news/p/twitte...ses-are-piling

On Monday morning, a revenue analyst for Twitter in Europe shared some disheartening news. “We are seeing a significant decline in bookings,” the analyst posted in Slack, before sharing the numbers. Twitter’s ad revenue in Europe, the Middle East and Africa (EMEA) is down 15 percent year over year, he said, and weekly bookings are down 49 percent, according to screenshots shared with Platformer.

It was a grim update to an already dire set of forecasts. On October 31, in a Google Sheet created to track advertisers who had paused their campaigns amidst Elon Musk’s chaotic takeover of the company, analysts found that $15.7 million in EMEA revenue was already at risk. That included $12 million of anticipated losses in the United Kingdom, the company’s largest market in the region.

The losses come at a critical period for Twitter, which has been counting on the confluence of Black Friday, Cyber Monday, and the ongoing World Cup to drive increases in quarterly revenue. “It’s catastrophic,” one former Twitter executive told us.

Money makes Twitter run; selling little blue birds might, but people like free stuff, so when the free speech becomes pay to speak, I'm betting even more drops off; ahem.

Machine learning ethics- holy shit balls my man, if you weren't concerned about big brother knowing everything and anything about you, you are just living in another decade where the 50's must be still showing reruns of I love lucy. Machine learning is all about gathering data and selling it. Pursuing people with algorithms, and then exploiting it. If you think that elections are suspect now, how would you like it if the Machine learning identified all the people who were likely to change votes by the actions and posts they like or make, and then sold it to the side you didn't want to win? It's already happening. But ppl like you who keep their heads buried in GOP propaganda and I hate lefties, don't realize that there are bigger entitities in the pool. Anyone remember the name "Cambridge Analytics"? But yeah...to your point, why would that matter to twitter users? LOL

Public Policy- OMG. if you really don't know what that is, you shouldn't post on any public forum. The same policies that people get pointed from on Eccie, and what keeps the ideas of civility and how to deal with infractions and the ideas of operations of a media site are part of this.

Clearly- you're view is only from the end user's perspective and wanting so desperately to have users say anything they fucking want to with impunity, that you've got no idea of the term governance. The how, and why we (the company) does things.

They teach this stuff in college- must have been the days you took off, ( or never enrolled) but I digress. The point was why do they need these departments?

They control almost every portion of the rules of a media site and help keep it a safe and viable place for people to share ideas, and when sponsors know that people are safe, they are willing to support the site with advertising dollars. That's really not what is happening here. Hence the drop in advertising, and it will all catch up in valuations. But rather than delve into that; which you likely know just as much about as you did regarding the above, I'll leave it here.


Nobody is saying Elon can't run this company as he wants, I'm just saying, that the signs of poor execution and lack of governance are all over the place and while it may feel / seem like the great new place on the net where free speech, (alternative facts) can be openly spoken, and promoted, there is a stench to it to the the advertisers and they will ultimately determine the viability of the company being something more than 4ch.

Not to mention the fact that Elon has now picked a fight with the apple store due to not having the above items in place- seems everyone is concerned about public safety and making sure that there rules in place before greenlighting a shit show.