Well it isn’t the economy stupid

[HedonistForever]

Nobody has to explain their view on abortion to have one opinion or the other. This is how the issue should be resolved and from 30,000 feet, as they like to say, it appears the issue of abortion played a large role in the outcome. That's fair if one decides to vote on one issue and that issue alone, I have no problem with one voting their conscience.


What I'm having a problem understanding is that 75% of public when asked, say that the country is moving in the wrong direction but they just put the same people who got us here, moving in the wrong direction, back in office because abortion was more important than any other issue.


So be it.


Now we'll watch the border get even worse if that is even possible. We'll see crime get worse since the criminals did very well this election cycle and we can look forward to many more Drag Queen Happy Hours in our elementary schools and continue to see the genital mutilation of very confused children.


Joe Biden just said he isn't going to change a single thing he is doing and "obviously" ( Biden says ) when people really see what we are doing, they agree with what we are doing.



So Joe Biden is now as delusional as he was the day he took office and those people in New York city and Los Angeles, will get exactly what they deserve.

[Little Monster]

Only a "stupid" person would view abortion and the economy as a separate issue. However I am enjoying all the whining and crying over yet another fascist conservative loss. Rather than reflecting on why they keep losing, they just continue to finger point and throw tantrums as HeneedsadickForever just demonstrated

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Little Monster

Only a "stupid" person would view abortion and the economy as a separate issue. However I am enjoying all the whining and crying over yet another fascist conservative loss. Rather than reflecting on why they keep losing, they just continue to finger point and throw tantrums as HeneedsadickForever just demonstrated

they are campaign issues. that's all they have in common. other than that they are completely different issues.

[oilfieldace]

Originally Posted by Little Monster

Only a "stupid" person would view abortion and the economy as a separate issue. However I am enjoying all the whining and crying over yet another fascist conservative loss. Rather than reflecting on why they keep losing, they just continue to finger point and throw tantrums as HeneedsadickForever just demonstrated

Your city says all one needs to know about you. Try being civil

[Little Monster]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

they are campaign issues. that's all they have in common. other than that they are completely different issues.

Wrong as usual. No surprise here. If you think forcing raped teens to carry out a pregnancy has no economic consequences then it's no wonder why you vote the way you do.

[Little Monster]

Originally Posted by oilfieldace

Your city says all one needs to know about you. Try being civil

Wooooo, you really got me there...

[oilfieldace]

Originally Posted by Little Monster

Wooooo, you really got me there...

Yup a true Texas Cesspool , quit watching UT because of its location

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Little Monster

Wrong as usual. No surprise here. If you think forcing raped teens to carry out a pregnancy has no economic consequences then it's no wonder why you vote the way you do.

the example you cite is so negligible to the overall economy as to be completely unrelated. the overall economic status, growth and inflation, etc have nothing to do with your example. unless you think you can show stats to prove there are millions of rape victims per year in the US resulting in hundreds of thousands of pregnancies which you can't possibly do.



you "might" make a case that there is an economic impact to unwanted pregnancies "IF" you can prove there is no possible path for abortion at all anywhere in the US as a result of Roe V Wade being overturned which you also can't prove.



you are conflating two unrelated issues. while you might make a case where unwanted pregnancies have an economic impact on social services and related costs, that subject is still completely unrelated to economic growth.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

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you are conflating two unrelated issues. while you might make a case where unwanted pregnancies have an economic impact on social services and related costs, that subject is still completely unrelated to economic growth.

It is not unrelated to the economic growth (or lack there of) of a woman forced to have an unwanted child...and the majority of women and men in this country do not support that unfairness.

https://www.statnews.com/2018/12/05/...en-well-being/

[oilfieldace]

Originally Posted by WTF

It is not unrelated to the economic growth (or lack there of) of a woman forced to have an unwanted child...and the majority of women and men in this country do not support that unfairness.

https://www.statnews.com/2018/12/05/...en-well-being/

Is taxpayers paying off the college loans of slackers fairness in your book? Is taking better care of illegal aliens than your own homeless people fair? Is open borders fair to the millions that done it the legal way? Is a made from whole cloth rule (abortion the same as a constitutional right? Is making criminals the victims instead of the actual victims fair?

There are hundreds of more examples of why I will not vote for any current Democrats. The Democratic Party wholly and solely have turned the USA into a country of runny nosed brats.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by WTF

It is not unrelated to the economic growth (or lack there of) of a woman forced to have an unwanted child...and the majority of women and men in this country do not support that unfairness.

https://www.statnews.com/2018/12/05/...en-well-being/

it's unrelated to the economy and it's growth. all that article does is prove my point that having an unexpected child has an economic impact on the individual, not the economy.


as i've noted, i'm pro-choice and one reason is exactly this. regardless of the fact someone should be smart enough to use birth control in the first place, if some woman does get pregnant they should consider the financial impact and if it's clear they can't properly support a child they should consider an abortion. if their morals and/or religious views conflict, they can put the child up for adoption.


abortion as a campaign issue has nothing to do with the economy as a campaign issue. they are completely unrelated beyond that.

[Tsmokies]

The real question is what do voters think of the NEW fucked up gop. Obviously not so much. The desantis trumpy turtle gop and their divided follows are amusing as fuck though. The only thing missing is senator of the United States WALKER

[Jackie S]

Originally Posted by Little Monster

Wrong as usual. No surprise here. If you think forcing raped teens to carry out a pregnancy has no economic consequences then it's no wonder why you vote the way you do.

https://abort73.com/abortion_facts/u...on_statistics/

Scroll down to the actual reasons for abortion.

[Brot]

Some of you seem better suited for the Taliban than capitalism. The basis of any sustainable economic model is fairness and trust in the rules. That and imho it involves staying out of peoples business and letting them handle it themselves and protect them from people that would interfere or press their rules on them.



An enlightened and functional government would seek a technological solution to the question of abortion. The republicans were smart enough to know the strength of their hand and use the issue to get their supernatural base worked up just enough but not actually press it home. Then McConnell and his stooge Rump came along.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

it's unrelated to the economy and it's growth. all that article does is prove my point that having an unexpected child has an economic impact on the individual, not the economy.


as i've noted, i'm pro-choice and one reason is exactly this. regardless of the fact someone should be smart enough to use birth control in the first place, if some woman does get pregnant they should consider the financial impact and if it's clear they can't properly support a child they should consider an abortion. if their morals and/or religious views conflict, they can put the child up for adoption.


abortion as a campaign issue has nothing to do with the economy as a campaign issue. they are completely unrelated beyond that.

What I said was that it was an economic issue to the individual and individuals vote....which then make it an economic issue because of how they vote can effect all our taxes/economics.

We're basically saying the same thing...I'm just carrying out the effect further...imho valued poster.