CiCi at massage center in Carrollton

[n07brc]

Does anyone know if CiCi is still around?

[pipe]

469-269-4183

[x920]

went there at the end of last week, she was still there

[GPTex2012]

Do you have a good number? 469-269-4183 doesn't work.

[MYQUEST]

Cici is in China. Told me she is not returning to USA

[junebug]

More will be going back to China soon, before the war. They have used us to get their money to help their families in their motherland, and are leaving us to enjoy their spoils.

[MYQUEST]

To be clear, this number is for Cici that worked out of a home in Carrollton. She has been around for many years. She has been gone for a few months.

[vigilant17]

Originally Posted by junebug

More will be going back to China soon, before the war. They have used us to get their money to help their families in their motherland, and are leaving us to enjoy their spoils.

Junebug I respectfully disagree. I have been actively chatting with owners and providers about this topic and with little divergence, they all are staying here: those without Green cards are in a press to complete them and everyone is worried. I know several ladies who have kids in China to whom they donate cash regularly, mom takes care of the kids, and they are keeping a stiff upper lip about not being able to be with their kids. They might be moving between here and LA, Utah, or NY, but they are not going back permanently to China. One is a USA Citizen, went back to China to visit family last summer, is still there, but coming back. She flew to Japan for a visit a month ago, so things are not as bad as our news states. I know of a couple who got their otherwise absent husbands to join them here recently and one put her kid in school in Europe.

Here is my $0.02:

If anything, their desire for flexibility is getting in the way. They don't want a big footprint here because of the work and the law, but many have houses and the longer they stay, the more roots they have. The dual China-USA thing is very attractive because no decision needs to be taken. If things get much worse, they will have to give up the flexibility and I still bet that they will choose to stay here. At the end of the day, these ladies are making stellar money here, many earn over $500K annually, they are being paid at the top of the food chain equivalent in China, and that is a big negative for going back - where they would get $0.50 for a massage and grow vegetables in the yard to eat well. Suffice to say that Chinese are inherently business oriented, the original small shop genius culture, and they are kicking it in the USA, all of which flies in the face of Xi's apparent new policies. At the same time, very few of them engage me credibly as to why they don't learn American English to the degree that they can blend in. They know it, we know they fake it as part of their game to bargain for money, but they just keep speaking only Chinese and hanging in their circles. A few speak excellent English, the others always say "Oh she speaks so well...". Not a conundrum, by the way: I lived in Germany for years avoiding a ton of Americans who could ask where the toilet was and order another beer, but never learned to converse in the language, much less read or negotiate a contract. So remember to look in the mirror when forming opinions of these extremely courageous hard-working ladies who are probably out-earning you right now while cooking rice and fish for lunch and dinner in the back room of the shop every day, 7 days a week.

[junebug]

I appreciate the thoughtful response. We do differ in our opinion of them. Courageous and hard working are not words I would use to describe them. Too lazy to do honest work. Money laundering, tax evading, and supporting of the country we will soon be at war with. Money is their God. Even their family comes second the money. A heartless bunch.

[junebug]

Harsh words. And doesn't apply to all obviously. Certainly not the ones in honest professions, as I know and respect many. But I have quit seeing the Chinese whores or buyi g Chinese products as much as I can distinguish them, until after the war, including the current one with Russia who the are supporting.

[Billogoods]

Most Chinese I know (which is a bunch) are very hard-working. In China, they all have guvment-assigned jobs. Sometimes, it is what the person wants to do. Sometimes, it is not. Most have side jobs. They'll do most anything to make a buck, or a thousand.

"Honest work" is an ethnocentric description. In Western terms, giving handies is shady. In non-Muslim Asian countries, it is not. However, some Muslim countries accept sex biz and regulate it heavily. They realize there's lot o' money to be made from it.

[vigilant17]

Originally Posted by junebug

I appreciate the thoughtful response. We do differ in our opinion of them. Courageous and hard working are not words I would use to describe them. Too lazy to do honest work. Money laundering, tax evading, and supporting of the country we will soon be at war with. Money is their God. Even their family comes second the money. A heartless bunch.

Junebug, we are more aligned than not. I was equally overly dramatic with my general characterization. There are always shades of grey, I avoid the lazy individuals in this profession, they don't have coverage in my generalization, my friends and favorites are all hard-working, which is why I have so much respect, and we all avoid the lazy ones. You and I align completely on the current war, coming wars, and what we should be doing ahead of time. In my orientation, even the lazy complaining ladies send money back to take care of the family, but this is applied to save the family in an entrepreneurial setting, not for the CCP, but opposing it. Xi will not complain of course, but I don't think this money is building his future weapons, it allows the family to live in a nice house, and someone is working here alone to create that dream there. And there is tax evasion, you are correct, this is all cash.