Trump & Our Late Roman Moment

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https://www.theamericanconservative....-roman-moment/

Trump & Our Late Roman Moment

He might well be guilty of hoarding documents. But consider the corruption of the Ruling Class attacking him



Rod Dreher
Aug 10, 2022 | 7:53 PM

Hello from Limassol, a city on the south coast of Cyprus. I came here to do some research for my next book. I boarded the plane for Cyprus in Vienna as the Trump raid news was breaking. The monastery where I stayed the past day and a half did not have wi-fi, which was actually a blessing, because it compelled me to wait until more information emerged before commenting. You're welcome.

On the journey up to the mountain monastery, my jovial Cypriot driver gave me an earful about America. He's a conservative, and admires Trump. He explained that Trump was a president who understood how badly the United States screwed up in the Arab world with its wars, and was eager to draw back America's warmaking. The driver also talked about how scandalized and angry he is that his young daughter's school is introducing gender ideology to the kids. He blamed the EU for this, saying that Brussels forces this stuff onto Cypriots by threatening to take away their money for roads if they don't accept pro-LGBT liberalism. He talked further about American culture as the driver of all this, saying, "we think you are all like Rome before the fall."

He said a couple of times that he hopes he wasn't offending me, but he felt that he needed to be honest about how conservative Christians like him have turned against America. "What happened to you?" he asked. He is somewhat pro-Russian, not (he says) because he admires Vladimir Putin, but because he likes to see somebody stand up to what he regards as an arrogant America.

It was hard to argue with most of what he had to say. I asked him if he had heard about the Boston Children's Hospital, which brags about performing hysterectomies on little girls with gender dysphoria. I told him about this happy-clappy promotional video from the prominent children's hospital:

https://youtu.be/VfIUEEo-tEI (Firestorm: this youtube was made private by the author)

He had not. "Oh my God," he said. "It's sickening."

It is. But this is what America stands for now to a lot of people around the world -- and to many of our own people. I bring this up because it conditions the way I see the Trump raid. I will explain later.

So, the Trump raid. When I first heard about it, I thought it was a jaw-dropping escalation, but I also was not willing to jump on the right-wing bandwagon defending Trump, until I learned what, exactly, was in the federal search warrant. Surely the feds wouldn't take this extraordinary move without having something radioactive in mind.

Well, at this point, it appears that they really were just looking for documents Trump was supposed to have turned over, but allegedly did not. I thought this couldn't be real. I mean, look, if Trump really does have these documents, it's outrageous that he hasn't turned them over. But surely the FBI wouldn't conduct a raid on a former president's house unless something truly spectacular was at stake -- and especially not the house of Donald Trump, not in this political environment. Right? I was secretly glad that I would have a day and a half at the monastery without wi-fi, so things could clear up.

Well, it seems that the feds did just that: raided Trump's house looking for documents that they believed Trump had on premises illegally.

On one hand, this could be seen as a vindication of the principle that no man, not even a former president, is above the law.

On the other hand -- who are you kidding?!

I think Donald Trump is capable of doing just about anything ... but I do not trust the FBI or the Department of Justice, which was highly politicized under Obama's AG Eric Holder. I don't trust Washington authority at all. I am surprised to realize this, but it took the Trump raid to clarify it for me.

Because you cannot understand the Trump raid out of context of the past few years. There was Russiagate, which turned out to be nothing, but consumed a massive amount of time and resources, and damaged the Trump administration. There was the Hunter Biden laptop story, which the entire Regime insisted was Russian disinformation designed to hurt Joe Biden's election chances ... but which they now admit was real. As Ross Douthat tweeted the other day in response to the Mar-a-Lago raid:

https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/statu...39886817021957

Ross Douthat
@DouthatNYT

Outside his base I would say Trump isn't exactly helped by investigations - the Mueller investigation clearly weakened his presidency - but instances where they overpromise and fizzle probably gives swing voters reason to discount his malfeasance, default to "everyone does it."

11:23 AM · Aug 9, 2022·Twitter Web App

Ross Douthat
@DouthatNYT

So if you take a step like this you had better feel like it's close to fizzle-proof. And unfortunately that has not been the pattern when our would-be institutionalists push their credibility onto the table to fight Trump:



politico.com

Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say
More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president's son.

11:25 AM · Aug 9, 2022·Twitter Web App

Trump might be guilty as hell in this matter, but I still wouldn't trust the Department of Justice when it comes to Trump matters. In fact -- and this is important as a political matter -- I find it hard to trust any institutional authority. Remember the Summer Of Floyd, when we had race riots and looting, but were told it was legitimate rebellion? Remember when doctors and others said that it was okay to suspend Covid rules as long as you were out protesting for a Regime-approved cause? Remember Covid, and how Dr. Fauci lied strategically? For that matter, notice monkeypox, a horrible communicable disease that (for now) is passed almost exclusively among gay men, through intimate contact: we couldn't send our kids to school, go to church, do normal community activities, or anything like that for a couple of years ... but the public health authorities refuse to call off gay orgies and close sex clubs and kink events, because gays are privileged in Regime culture.

Remember Jeffrey Epstein? Oh look, the judge who signed off on the Trump raid used to work for Epstein. Imagine that.

The Regime tells us that this is a woman, and if you disagree, you are a bigot who might find yourself cancelled:



Levine and the administration he represents advocate for full-spectrum mutilation of gender-dysphoric minors. The Biden Administration and the rest of the Regime want to give hysterectomies to children who ask for them. Let that sink in. This is the level of depravity we are dealing with in our ruling class.

https://twitter.com/venus_iscariot/s...20709556604928

They have also queered the military, while at the same time are presiding over a recruitment crisis. Funny how that works. And while ordinary Americans are struggling to pay bills in these inflationary times, the Regime -- including Congressional Republicans -- continue to throw billions upon billions at Ukraine, to fight this proxy war with Russia. For what?

These are the people we are supposed to trust to fight the Trump menace?

We are also dealing with a Regime that supports open borders:

https://twitter.com/AdamShawNY/statu...53106165432322

Adam Shaw
@AdamShawNY

The Biden administration has won its battle to end the Trump-era "Remain-in-Mexico" program and is moving to shut it down completely -- even amid a raging crisis at the southern border



foxnews.com

Biden admin moves to end Trump-era Remain in Mexico after court ruling
The Biden administration is moving to end the Migrant Protection Protocols after a court has lifted an injunction on doing so after a June 30 Supreme Court decision.

8:08 AM · Aug 10, 2022·Twitter Web App

Additionally, the Regime -- not just the government, but the ruling class and its institutions -- fully supports anti-white racism, and the ideological takeover of higher education by mandating loyalty tests:

Ideological litmus tests are becoming the norm in American academia. Already, many universities require faculty job candidates to submit “diversity statements” — 19% of the faculty job listings in one recent survey. Now, similar requirements increasingly apply to sitting faculty members, as diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) statements and criteria have become standard components of the promotion and tenure process.

To give one example: last year, the highly-ranked Oregon Health and Science University School of Medicine released its Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Anti-Racism Strategic Action Plan, listing dozens of “tactics” for advancing social justice. Here is an example:

“Include a section in promotion packages where faculty members report on the ways they are contributing to improving DEI, anti-racism and social justice. Reinforce the importance of these efforts by establishing clear consequences and influences on promotion packages.

The reference to “consequences” reads like a warning to dissenters, especially given that concepts such as “equity”, “anti-racism”, and “social justice” often simply connote adherence to progressive political views. Thanks to the ubiquity of Ibram X. Kendi’s work, many American professionals are primed to point out that anti-racism, far from merely being “not racist”, entails embracing “race conscious” policies, coupled with the belief that any disparity is by definition racism.

With official DEI requirements for promotion and tenure on the rise, Kendian “anti-racism” has come closer to a formal requirement for many in academia. In its 2022 survey of tenure practices, the American Association of University Professors found that 21.5% of the institutions it surveyed had DEI criteria in their tenure standards. For larger institutions, it was 45.6%.As diversity officers increase, so too will their preferred policies.

And they are training the Great and the Good not to buy from white vendors.

This is a Regime that is destroying people professionally simply for repeating magic words, no matter what the context:

https://twitter.com/jeremycarl4/stat...18572327055360

Jeremy Carl
@jeremycarl4

Voldemort. Demons can be summoned by magic word and incantations. Half a lifetime of work washed away for reading someone else’s words. Even by the absurd standards of these things, this one is ridiculous.



espn.com

OU's Gundy resigns; read aloud 'shameful' word
Longtime Oklahoma football assistant coach Cale Gundy resigned Sunday night, saying that he read aloud "a word that I should never -- under any circumstance -- have uttered" off the screen of a...

7:29 AM · Aug 8, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

And oh, let us not forget this. Notice who voted down this bill: every single Democratic senator. This is why the claims by angry Trumpers that the FBI is going after Trump today, but ordinary people tomorrow, land with Trump supporters:

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1556269395818827777

Phil Kerpen
@kerpen

Crapo amendment to the Manchin bill to limit the bill's 87,000 new IRS agents to auditing comapnes and individuals with income of $400,000 or more FAILED 50-50.

https://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00296.htm



8:21 AM · Aug 7, 2022·Twitter Web App

By now you are thinking: good grief, Dreher is throwing in the entire kitchen sink! You would be right. But I don't care. As Trump-hating Damon Linker writes in his essay cautioning about the effects of a raid he considers to have been politically unwise:

To this, many Democrats and anti-Trump conservatives respond: All the more reason why we need to prosecute him, to vindicate the rule of law and show that justice can still be done.

And hey, I get it. In theory, that sounds exactly right. I’d love to see Trump punished for any acts that broke the law, both for the sake of justice and in order to deter future acts of political treachery. The problem is that this is a polity, not a graduate seminar in Kantian ethics. If only one of the country’s two major parties accepts the legitimacy of prosecuting a former (and possibly future) president, then the rule of law will not be vindicated, only Democrats will think that justice has been done, and no future bad actors will be deterred. Rather than healing the country’s civic wounds, the effort to punish Trump will only deepen them.

This is a polity, not a graduate seminar in Kantian ethics. He's right, you know. Y'all know that I am not a Trump fan, but in this case, I can't separate the raid on his house from the rest of the rottenness of our ruling class. I am reminded of something I've repeated in this space a lot since I heard it last summer in Budapest. I was talking in a taxi with a younger voter who told me she planned to vote for Viktor Orban's party in the spring election. I asked her why, and she spoke at length about how fed up she was with what she believed was Orban's tolerance for financial corruption among his supporters. So why do you stick with Orban? I asked. She talked about culture -- specifically, about gender ideology that the European Union was trying to push onto Hungarians, but which Orban was fighting tooth and nail. She put it something like this (I paraphrase): "All corruption is bad, but not all corruption is equally bad. Financial corruption is normal. The moral evil of gender ideology is on a totally different level. If we accept that spiritual and moral corruption, we are finished."

I hadn't thought of it that way, but she's right. To the extent that Donald Trump or Viktor Orban is corrupt, it's Mayor Daley's Chicago corruption, or Huey Long's Louisiana corruption. To the extent that the Ruling Class is corrupt, it's Fall of Rome stuff, or Weimar Germany level rot. I would prefer that the champion against the Regime would be a man (or woman) of unimpeachable character. I don't see him or her; I'll take what we have, reminding myself that the faultless man lauded by his contemporaries as "The Incorruptible" was Maximilien Robespierre, a social justice warrior who turned into one of modernity's great political monsters.

My Cypriot driver laughed as we motored up mountain roads: "Who's next for you Americans? Caligula? Nero?" He was kidding, but this came at the end of a discourse in which he talked about how much he used to admire America, but no more. We start wars that ruin people's countries (Cyprus, by virtue of its geography, has lots of ties to the Arab world), and now we have generated a sick way of thinking that is requiring his daughter to learn in school that she might be a boy. He's right about that. Meanwhile, I'm supposed to give a pass to the people who believe all that is fine, but the real crime -- a crime so great that it requires an unprecedented federal law enforcement intervention -- is Donald Trump taking documents he shouldn't have out of the White House? Really?

UPDATE:Caligula America:

Radical gender theory has made sudden inroads in America’s schools. Many parents have watched in confusion as their children repeat the movement’s slogans and adopt synthetic sexual identities such as “non-binary,” “pansexual,” and “genderqueer.” The next question for many families is: Where does this surge in left-wing sexual ideology come from? One answer: from a network of professional activists, who have smuggled university-style gender theory into more than 4,000 schools under the cover of “gender and sexuality” clubs, or GSAs.

The main national organization behind this campaign, the GSA Network, is a professionally staffed nonprofit with a multimillion-dollar annual budget. GSA Network serves as an umbrella organization for more than 4,000 “gender and sexuality alliances” across 40 states. Once called the Gay-Straight Alliance Network, the group rebranded in 2016, reflecting a new focus on “the limits of a binary gender system.” The individual chapters, which operate in elementary, middle, and high schools, often use the language of “LGBTQ inclusion” and “anti-bullying” in their public relations, but behind the scenes, the central organization is driven by pure left-wing radicalism that extends far beyond sexuality.

About The Author


Rod Dreher

Rod Dreher is a senior editor at The American Conservative. A veteran of three decades of magazine and newspaper journalism, he has also written three New York Times bestsellers—Live Not By Lies, The Benedict Option, and The Little Way of Ruthie Leming—as well as Crunchy Cons and How Dante Can Save Your Life.Dreher lives in Baton Rouge, La.

[Cheap Charlie]

I love you brother, but your posts have been really long lately. I don't have time to read a novel. Brief and to the point. That is always the best strategy.

[JohnnyGleet]

According to Camille Paglia, obsession with Transgenderism is one of the hallmarks of a culture in decline.

[VerySkeptical]

Multiple problems,
From McCarthy about IRS
\ 11, 2022
Kevin McCarthy’s mostly false claim about an army of 87,000 IRS agents
IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT
The 87,000 figure includes hires across the agency, including IT and taxpayer services, not just enforcement staff as the claim suggests. And many of those hires would go toward holding staff numbers steady in the face of a history of budget cuts and a wave of projected retirements.

Projections of over 700,000 new audits of modest income filers are based on flawed assumptions, and run counter to the strategy the IRS plans to follow.

The Treasury Department says people and small businesses making under $400,000 per year will see no change, while audits of corporations and high net-worth individuals will rise.

Capro amendment does opposite.

Twitter not a valid news source other than proof someone said something.[QUOTE=dilbert firestorm;1062936627]https://www.theamericanconservative....-roman-moment/

Trump & Our Late Roman Moment

He might well be guilty of hoarding documents. But consider the corruption of the Ruling Class attacking him
Trump is in ruling class. He has admitted to illegally removing documents. What proof of corruption do you have?


Rod Dreher
Aug 10, 2022 | 7:53 PM

Hello from Limassol, a city on the south coast of Cyprus. I came here to do some research for my next book. I boarded the plane for Cyprus in Vienna as the Trump raid news was breaking. The monastery where I stayed the past day and a half did not have wi-fi, which was actually a blessing, because it compelled me to wait until more information emerged before commenting. You're welcome.

On the journey up to the mountain monastery, my jovial Cypriot driver gave me an earful about America. He's a conservative, and admires Trump. He explained that Trump was a president who understood how badly the United States screwed up in the Arab world with its wars, and was eager to draw back America's warmaking. The driver also talked about how scandalized and angry he is that his young daughter's school is introducing gender ideology to the kids. He blamed the EU for this, saying that Brussels forces this stuff onto Cypriots by threatening to take away their money for roads if they don't accept pro-LGBT liberalism. He talked further about American culture as the driver of all this, saying, "we think you are all like Rome before the fall."

He said a couple of times that he hopes he wasn't offending me, but he felt that he needed to be honest about how conservative Christians like him have turned against America. "What happened to you?" he asked. He is somewhat pro-Russian, not (he says) because he admires Vladimir Putin, but because he likes to see somebody stand up to what he regards as an arrogant America.

It was hard to argue with most of what he had to say. I asked him if he had heard about the Boston Children's Hospital, which brags about performing hysterectomies on little girls with gender dysphoria. I told him about this happy-clappy promotional video from the prominent children's hospital:

https://youtu.be/VfIUEEo-tEI (Firestorm: this youtube was made private by the author)

He had not. "Oh my God," he said. "It's sickening."Bullshit. Link explain who procedure was performed on? How many was performed on? What reason was it performed on? What age were they performed?

It is. But this is what America stands for now to a lot of people around the world -- and to many of our own people. I bring this up because it conditions the way I see the Trump raid. I will explain later.If people use a single issue to define us, who cares. You don't want more immigrants anyway.
Here is where your credibility goes out the window. None of this has anything to do with the raid on Trump's house.
Fact-Trump illegally removed documents from the White House.
Fact-Trump knew it was illegal to do so (This is at the level that saying you didn't know that is total horseshit)
Fact-He sat on them for months after requested to return the documents.
Fact-After he returned "some" of the documents. his people, at his direction, said that was all.
Fact-On June visit, Trump lawyer signed document affirming all documents had been returned. A lie.
Fact- At this point, they were through playing. Trump could destroy or hide them better, or whatever
Fact-After several chances to return the documents, he chose not to
Fact- A search warrant was served.
Fact-More documents were found.
Fact-The search warrant included Melania's closet or any other place the documents could be hidden (sidebar-how fucking stupid are you people? "Look. There is a set of drawers. Let's check them." Other guy. "Don't look in there. Who would hide documents in there?" Fucking morons)
Fact-Warrants procured legally
Fact-Nothing that happens in Cypress has anything to do with this search. This treatise is full of interlocked false equivalencies, misrepresentations and out right lies.
The author used the data dump technique to conceal his bullshit.
This is all based on baseless claims of corruption.

You won't acknowledge the basic facts of the search.

Do you still believe in launch codes?

So, the Trump raid. When I first heard about it, I thought it was a jaw-dropping escalation, but I also was not willing to jump on the right-wing bandwagon defending Trump, until I learned what, exactly, was in the federal search warrant. Surely the feds wouldn't take this extraordinary move without having something radioactive in mind.

Well, at this point, it appears that they really were just looking for documents Trump was supposed to have turned over, but allegedly did not. I thought this couldn't be real. I mean, look, if Trump really does have these documents, it's outrageous that he hasn't turned them over. But surely the FBI wouldn't conduct a raid on a former president's house unless something truly spectacular was at stake -- and especially not the house of Donald Trump, not in this political environment. Right? I was secretly glad that I would have a day and a half at the monastery without wi-fi, so things could clear up.

Well, it seems that the feds did just that: raided Trump's house looking for documents that they believed Trump had on premises illegally.

On one hand, this could be seen as a vindication of the principle that no man, not even a former president, is above the law.

On the other hand -- who are you kidding?!

I think Donald Trump is capable of doing just about anything ... but I do not trust the FBI or the Department of Justice, which was highly politicized under Obama's AG Eric Holder. I don't trust Washington authority at all. I am surprised to realize this, but it took the Trump raid to clarify it for me.

Because you cannot understand the Trump raid out of context of the past few years. There was Russiagate, which turned out to be nothing, but consumed a massive amount of time and resources, and damaged the Trump administration. There was the Hunter Biden laptop story, which the entire Regime insisted was Russian disinformation designed to hurt Joe Biden's election chances ... but which they now admit was real. As Ross Douthat tweeted the other day in response to the Mar-a-Lago raid:[INDENT] https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/statu...39886817021957
This guy is totally full of shit. What did you expect when you ignore all facts, easily found, that punch a million holes in this story. He misstates the results of "Russiagate". Guess you all forgot the investigation launched by Trump's DOJ that confirmed the validity of the Mueller report.
It's like I said, the information that prove all this bullshit is wrong was easily found. The fact you guys can never seem to find negative information about Trump or acknowledge that information exists discredits you standing and credibility
Ross Douthat
@DouthatNYT

Outside his base I would say Trump isn't exactly helped by investigations - the Mueller investigation clearly weakened his presidency - but instances where they overpromise and fizzle probably gives swing voters reason to discount his malfeasance, default to "everyone does it."Is that what swing voters did?
They put his ass out on the street

[VerySkeptical]

And so your conservative author lies about his subject matter and about people on Cypress that have heard specific, made up stories.

Your Boston hospital story is completely false.
And you went with it anyways.
No, Boston Children's Hospital doesn't provide hysterectomies for children

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...rovide-hyster/

[Jacuzzme]

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[VerySkeptical]

Press the RTM button, I'm going to. We'll let the mods decide if you crossed the line.
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Moderators, please remove this degenerate! [/SIZE]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Staff Edit - Biomed1

[Lucas McCain]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Staff Edit - Biomed1

Not cool, dude. It is probably a good idea to take a step back before you post nonsense like that on a whore board. There are plenty of other anti-left sites to post that type of inappropriate drivel, but this one is probably not a good choice to do so.

[VerySkeptical]

So your conservative author has conversations with a fabricated native about a fabricated story? And said same fabricated native is bummed because his fabricated daughter was forced to be subjected to liberal pro-whateverthefuck? Because "Brussels" would cut them off? Not Belgium would cut them off?
Moot point. It's bullshit.

Cyprus is an independent country. "Brussels" can't do anything to Cyprus. Here is their economic status.
Economic overview
services-based, high-income EU island economy; heavy tourism; sustained growth between recovery of national banking system and COVID-19 trade restrictions; high living standards; a known financial hub, its stock exchange functions as an investment bridge between EU-and EEU-member countries"
Doesn't it bother Trumpys that you're thought of as being stupid by your own media? Or that they know you won't check the information?
It must not bother you because it backs your narrative.

I've checked the information.
And the party of lying liars has been caught again. You shed independents by the day.
Once again, thanks for the senate (at least)

Plus you've set the "Standards". Just ignore subpoenas. We'll keep Trump tied up in the national media.
And then WHAM! Georgia convicts him on state charges using the "perfect" tape recordings of him committing his crimes.

You know what's weird? You defending a lying piece of shit that had a 34% approval rating when he left office and is the only candidate Biden could beat.

Moot point. The KFC gravy that Trump uses for blood will have hardened by then.

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

https://www.theamericanconservative....-roman-moment/

Trump & Our Late Roman Moment



Rod Dreher
Aug 10, 2022 | 7:53 PM

Hello from Limassol, a city on the south coast of Cyprus. I came here to do some research for my next book. I boarded the plane for Cyprus in Vienna as the Trump raid news was breaking. The monastery where I stayed the past day and a half did not have wi-fi, which was actually a blessing, because it compelled me to wait until more information emerged before commenting. You're welcome.

On the journey up to the mountain monastery, my jovial Cypriot driver gave me an earful about America. He's a conservative, and admires Trump. He explained that Trump was a president who understood how badly the United States screwed up in the Arab world with its wars, and was eager to draw back America's warmaking. The driver also talked about how scandalized and angry he is that his young daughter's school is introducing gender ideology to the kids. He blamed the EU for this, saying that Brussels forces this stuff onto Cypriots by threatening to take away their money for roads if they don't accept pro-LGBT liberalism. He talked further about American culture as the driver of all this, saying, "we think you are all like Rome before the fall."

I like watching you lie.
We know it doesn't bother you but we'll have fun beating you with your own words later.

[VerySkeptical]

Too late for him to walk it back.
We'll let the mods decide what to do with him
Pushing our problem to another website is no answer. He can publish all the dirt he wants as long as it's true but this is part of deflecting the spotlight away from Trump by saying any and all claims no matter how outrageous the claim is.

But you know, Trumpys wear the look of pretend victim and the face of abject fear so well.

Are you familiar with the term "tharn"?

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Not cool, dude. It is probably a good idea to take a step back before you post nonsense like that on a whore board. There are plenty of other anti-left sites to post that type of inappropriate drivel, but this one is probably not a good choice to do so.

[Lucas McCain]

Originally Posted by VerySkeptical

Too late for him to walk it back.
We'll let the mods decide what to do with him

Trust me, I was not trying to give him a chance to back track. I would have waited to post what I did at least one minute past the hour that he hit the submit button just so he couldn't. I don't particularly care for his nonsensical posts and I am a big believer in if you post ridiculous shit like that, you own it.

[Yssup Rider]

I wonder if there’s some kind of unwritten contest between some of our colleagues for posting the most outrageous shit possible in an effort to make “liberal heads explode.”

I’d say more, but I’d likely get another stern talking to.

[Jacuzzme]

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

The truth is, you repeatedly violated one of the nuclear rules of ECCIE, and done so knowingly and intentionally. And you’re still posting.