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Old 06-20-2022, 05:54 PM   #1
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Default Op-Ed: The insurrection won’t end until Trump is prosecuted and disqualified from future office

The tumor will continue to grow until it’s removed once and for all.


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Op-Ed: The insurrection won’t end until Trump is prosecuted and disqualified from future office

Holding Trump accountable — and disqualifying him from future office — would not be a partisan act, but one needed to preserve the republic.


In a powerful warning Thursday, the patron saint of the conservative legal movement, former federal appellate Judge J. Michael Luttig, testified before the Jan. 6 Committee and pronounced former President Trump and his allies a “clear and present danger” to American constitutional democracy. As Luttig knows better than most, this historic phrase generates an extraordinary constitutional power of government to act — and a duty to do so.
Luttig’s verdict should be understood as a plea for Atty. Gen. Merrick Garland to proceed toward charging Trump with federal crimes that the public record now amply establishes. Only then will this nation be able to move forward from the ongoing insurrection.

Beyond the avalanche of documents and testimony pointing to Trump’s guilt and the principle that no one is above the law, there is an additional reason to indict Trump for his multi-faceted conspiracy in 2020 to override the vote. Upon a conviction for inciting insurrection, or being an accessory to insurrection, Trump would be subject to disqualification from acquiring federal office.
Section 3 of the 14 Amendment directs: “No person shall . . . hold any office . . . under the United States . . . who, having previously taken an oath . . . as an officer of the United States . . . to support the Constitution shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same.''
There is ample evidence that Trump’s objective was the insurrection’s success. Among that evidence was his three-hour delay in calling on the attackers to go home and his vengeful tweet demeaning Vice President Mike Pence after Trump knew that the savage invasion of the U.S. Capitol had begun. That was “pouring gasoline on the fire,” testified former deputy White House press secretary Sarah Matthews.

Even without a direct charge of insurrection, allegations of such insurrectionist activities in an indictment for conspiring to defraud the United States or to obstruct an official proceeding or for seditious conspiracy might suffice for 14 Amendment disqualification if Trump were convicted.

Holding Trump accountable — and disqualifying him from future office — would not be a partisan act, but one needed to preserve the republic.

Without a prosecution of Trump, here are three things that seem sure to happen if he were allowed to run again and either be lawfully elected or succeed in installing himself in office despite defeat in the electoral college, as he attempted to do in 2020:

The end of elections in which a majority of voters choose their leaders

As Judge Luttig put it at Thursday’s hearing: The clear and present danger now is because "to this very day the former president and his allies and supporters pledge that in the presidential election of 2024, if the former president or his anointed successor as the Republican Party presidential candidate were to lose that election, they would attempt to overturn that 2024 election in the same way that they attempted to overturn the 2020 election.”

Republican-controlled state legislatures are already institutionalizing election sabotage — with GOP election officials determining election results no matter the vote winner. More than a dozen “election deniers” like Jim Marchant, who just won the Republican primary for secretary of state in Nevada, are GOP nominees for secretary of state and other election-controlling positions.

So even though Trump won’t hold the levers of presidential power in 2024 the way he did in 2020, he won’t need to: His allies and his disinformation are putting officials in place around the country who will certify his win whatever the vote.

The use of the military for domestic control

Trump’s administration deployed military helicopters in an unprecedented show of military force over peaceful demonstrators whom police attacked in Washington’s Lafayette Park in July 2020. Retired military leaders excoriated the abuse.

In early December 2020, Trump’s close ally, his former national security advisor and retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, reportedly urged Trump to declare martial law.

On Nov. 9, 2020, Trump fired Defense Secretary Mark Esper and installed a more compliant Christopher Miller. On Jan. 4, 2021, Miller issued a memo requiring his approval to deploy the National Guard in Washington, D.C. On Jan. 6, Defense Department leadership delayed the National Guard’s response to the Capitol siege by three hours.

You don’t have to be a clairvoyant to imagine how military force against political foes — and restraint of force to protect violent supporters — will be used if Trump regains office.

The end of accountability

On June 17, in Nashville, Trump said that if reelected, he would consider “very, very seriously” pardoning all the participants in the Jan. 6 insurrection.

That could clear more than 310 insurrectionists who have pleaded guilty or been convicted at trial. Deterrence of future violence depends on judicially imposed sanctions. Trump would remove them, signaling that violent extremism in defense of Trump is no vice.

If he returns to the White House, he will install his people in the Justice Department and turn the machinery of prosecution against his enemies and toward protecting his friends and his schemes.
And should Trump get an encore, look to pre-World War II Germany for a mirror. A failed coup in 1923 taught Hitler a better route to dictatorship nine years later.

Those who repeat history are doomed to learn it. The hard way.
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Translation: We’re scared to death because we know Trump will win, for the third time, and have the levers of power at his disposal to expose our corruption.
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Oh Jesus, all this whining again. Let me make this easy for you - Big Daddy will be president in 2024. He will pardon all those patriots that were at the Capital protesting the stolen election of 2020. As well he should. The Hitler analogy is overdone and .......nobody cares. If they had something to prosecute him with than they should of done it but nooooooooooooo they have nothing. They wanted a shit show and that's what they got. If you're afraid of violence - move to Canada and become a Canadian.....oh wait.....you already did that with that fake mandle you had. Maybe try Mexico and make a Mexican mandle next time- maybe you'll feel better or not. Nobody cares.
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Translation: We’re scared to death because we know Trump will win, for the third time, and have the levers of power at his disposal to expose our corruption.
Not hardly. He's yet to achieve a majority of voters and he's tried twice. This time, he'll get totally squashed again.

People rose up against Trumpism in 2020. They'll do it again in 2024. Especially as his loyal mob continues to make the Big Lie central in their quest for acceptance.

Translation: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

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Not hardly. He's yet to achieve a majority of voters and he's tried twice. This time, he'll get totally squashed again.

People rose up against Trumpism in 2020. They'll do it again in 2024. Especially as his loyal mob continues to make the Big Lie central in their quest for acceptance.

Translation: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!




You are so full of nonsense. People want Trumps policies, Democrats can't win against the policies so go full on character assassination. Trump doesn't roll over like most Republicans and thus the conflict. If the news media were honest and doing their job, the Biden's and Clinton's would be exposed for all of their corruption.
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Oh Jesus, all this whining again. Let me make this easy for you - Big Daddy will be president in 2024. He will pardon all those patriots that were at the Capital protesting the stolen election of 2020. As well he should. The Hitler analogy is overdone and .......nobody cares. If they had something to prosecute him with than they should of done it but nooooooooooooo they have nothing. They wanted a shit show and that's what they got. If you're afraid of violence - move to Canada and become a Canadian.....oh wait.....you already did that with that fake mandle you had. Maybe try Mexico and make a Mexican mandle next time- maybe you'll feel better or not. Nobody cares.











He has retards convinced.
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You are so full of nonsense. People want Trumps policies, Democrats can't win against the policies so go full on character assassination. Trump doesn't roll over like most Republicans and thus the conflict. If the news media were honest and doing their job, the Biden's and Clinton's would be exposed for all of their corruption.

Always playing the victim. Not like the character of some farm stud. Weakling.

Why blame someone else for just reporting on the 4-year dumpster fire?










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Suggestions please on who from the spineless GOP is going to announce their candidancy and defeat Trump.

Or are the Republicans the ones who are scared to death.....


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Dumpster fire? Look around. We’re currently living through arguably the worst presidency since the country was founded. If Trump was a dumpster fire, Biden is Dresden in 1945.

You people are so hung up on personality that you’ll sacrifice the well being of every citizen.
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Dumpster fire? Look around. We’re currently living through arguably the worst presidency since the country was founded. If Trump was a dumpster fire, Biden is Dresden in 1945.

You people are so hung up on personality that you’ll sacrifice the well being of every citizen.

Wake the fuck up! This a fuckin' hangover from an insurrection you dumb fuck.









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Biden fucking up the economy worse than any previous administration, at warp speed, is because some people walked around taking selfies in the capital when they shouldn’t have. Sure thing, Einstein.
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Oh Jesus, all this whining again. Let me make this easy for you - Big Daddy will be president in 2024. He will pardon all those patriots that were at the Capital protesting the stolen election of 2020. As well he should. The Hitler analogy is overdone and .......nobody cares. If they had something to prosecute him with than they should of done it but nooooooooooooo they have nothing. They wanted a shit show and that's what they got. If you're afraid of violence - move to Canada and become a Canadian.....oh wait.....you already did that with that fake mandle you had. Maybe try Mexico and make a Mexican mandle next time- maybe you'll feel better or not. Nobody cares.
There weren't any patriots there to pardon
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Biden fucking up the economy worse than any previous administration, at warp speed, is because some people walked around taking selfies in the capital when they shouldn’t have. Sure thing, Einstein.

Murdering the CAPITOL Police there to preserve the peaceful transition of power was a . . . bit of a problem for our . . . global reputation.

Wake-up Sherlock.









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Oh Jesus, all this whining again. Let me make this easy for you - Big Daddy will be president in 2024. He will pardon all those patriots that were at the Capital protesting the stolen election of 2020. As well he should. The Hitler analogy is overdone and .......nobody cares. If they had something to prosecute him with than they should of done it but nooooooooooooo they have nothing. They wanted a shit show and that's what they got. If you're afraid of violence - move to Canada and become a Canadian.....oh wait.....you already did that with that fake mandle you had. Maybe try Mexico and make a Mexican mandle next time- maybe you'll feel better or not. Nobody cares.
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