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Next step. Tell Putin that NATO will be flying cargo planes into Ukraine with humanitarian aid only, no weapons and will be accompanied by fighter aircraft flown by NATO and Ukrainian pilots with a warning, do not attack that cargo plane, the fighters will not attack targets in Ukraine but will defend that cargo plane if fired upon.
It's time for the West to tell Putin what we will do. If the cargo plane or any fighters are shot down, this will not necessarily escalate into offensive attacks but the cargo planes will continue coming as long as the humanitarian aid is necessary.
This is a limited no fly zone with no offensive moves unless fired upon that will not escalate unless Putin causes it to escalate. We simply can not let Putin decide how we respond to a humanitarian crisis.
It's almost laughable this attack on Tucker Carlson. What his critics are saying, is that anybody that doesn't want WW3, which is Carlson's point, is a Putin asset. So if you don't want us to get further involved, you are a Putin asset. This is one time where I disagree with Carlson but support his right to his opinion. Other's like Mitt Romney and some other Republican hawks and the entire Left leaning media, are calling for Carlson and Gabbard to be arrested and tried by a military tribunal. They have lost their fucking minds. Now they want it to be a law that you can not say anything other than what the Ministry of Truth ( the Biden administration ) says you may say. How is that any different than what Russia, China, North Korea and Iran does?
Yesterday after Tucker Carlson had Lt. Colonel Tulsi Gabbard on air "confirming" what what US government officials have already openly acknowledged, that there are bio-labs in Ukraine that have been supported by the US. She never said "bio-weapons" but did say, as I said, that deadly pathogens like anthrax exists in those labs and that the US government is worried about that "research" falling into Russian hands and that is a quote from our government.
Let me repeat, if you are against the US getting further involved in Ukraine, you are a Putin asset according to our MSM and the Biden administration and Tucker, being thee most popular commentator on cable news, which threatens the very existence of CNN and MSNBC most be arrested for speaking his mind.
Putin has launched NESARA. > TRANSLATION: The inhabitants of the liberated territories of Ukraine will see their debts forgiven and utility rates reduced
Citizens of Ukraine living in the territories liberated from the Kiev regime will see all their debts cancelled. On the territory of the Zaporozhye region, including Melitopol, which is under the control of the Russian army, corresponding radio messages are broadcast.
We are talking about the cancellation of all bank loan and borrowing obligations, as well as the payment of electricity bills. At the same time, gas and heating rates will be reduced to domestic rates.
It is also stated that local farmers will be supported in carrying out the planting campaign and that they will be allowed to enter the Russian market to sell their products. In addition, farmers have the opportunity to buy seeds, fuel and lubricants and fertilizers at lower Russian prices.
Carlson is pro-Putin and likely pro-Russia. Is he an asset, unlikely, at least not intentionally. But he’s definitely a Putin/Russia propagandist. And he’s likely doing it for free, technically. So he’s not a whore for them.
He’s entitled to being a Russia/Putin propaganda machine, as are the putinists on here like Bambino, Salty, Why Yes, etc.
Carlson openly roots for Putin. That’s not an attack. It’s the truth; something you never hear from Carlson.
And Gabbard has long been suspected to be a Russian asset. Suddenly she goes by Lt. col? Must be a Fox thing. HAHAHAHAHAHSHSH
But since looks good in a wetsuit, you boys think she’s the shit.
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Carlson is pro-Putin and likely pro-Russia. Is he an asset, unlikely, at least not intentionally. But he’s definitely a Putin/Russia propagandist. And he’s likely doing it for free, technically. So he’s not a whore for them.
He’s entitled to being a Russia/Putin propaganda machine, as are the putinists on here like Bambino, Salty, Why Yes, etc.
does he? can you two prove it? clearly you have been brainwashed by your far leftist radical warmonger leaders and their press lackeys into believing the US must start a war with Russia directly. is that what you want?
why don't you two watch Carlson and see for yourselves if he's "shillin' for Vlad Putie" or not?
Tucker made the cardinal sin of asking people to stop and think for themselves for just a minute. Is it possible that supplying all these arms to Ukraine only insures further destruction of the population which is exactly what is happening? And for that reasonably intelligent question, they say he is rooting for Russia which anybody that watches Carlson knows isn't true. They don't watch, they merely parrot what the left leaning media tell them he is saying.
What if after hundreds of thousands of deaths, Ukraine settles for never asking to be invited into NATO, agrees that Russia can keep the Crimea because after all, they have no way to take it back and agree to two independent states in the Donbas region, all of which could have been done before the first shot was fired.
And that is a traitorous position to take?
To be clear, I don't share that proposition. If the Ukrainians want to fight and die, that is their prerogative and I am all for sending them the arms they need to defend themselves and it use to be a prerogative in this country to give an opinion contrary to what the government and even what the majority of Americans believe.
It use to be called "freedom to speak your mind", now it's called treason by the same people who literally hate this country, call it evil and were more than happy to watch criminals burn it to the ground.
Yeah, we've definitely gone down the rabbit hole Alice.
And the second cardinal sin TC committed, was asking why we are so willing to spend billions of dollars in far a way places where America has no strategic national interest. If Ukraine falls, what happens to America? Answer, nothing. With all of the problems to fix here in America, which we don't seem to have enough money to fix, why spend billions in places that don't fix a damn thing in America?
That was Tuckers second question for which he was also called a traitor to America when he was obviously ( unless you are a complete moron ) asking that we put America first which doesn't help Putin one damn bit.
This whole topic is getting mind boggling stupid but it is having the desired effect. My Democrat friend just sent me an article on this and wrote in the margin, Tucker Carlson is a traitor! I asked him if he had ever heard TC say anything that was quoted in the article he was relying on. "Hell, no, I wouldn't watch him if my life depended on it". Ok, I said, so we have established that you personally didn't hear TC say any of those things but you take the word of somebody that I just proved to you in an article you sent the other day, that the writer was a liar. "Well, I'll believe all of them over Fox news any day". Then you keep being you, I said, taking other peoples words of things said ( that were not said ) on Fox news.
To recap, wondering if the money we spend on countries on the other side of the world with no strategic national interest to the US, is a good idea and wondering if sending Ukraine billions in weapons while their countrymen, correction, women and children are mostly being killed and millions of homeless refugees and a good chance that Ukraine will surrender with an agreement that they could have had before the war started.
And that is being a traitor to the US? Sounds like a patriot to me even though I don't agree with him completely.
From a supposed Russian memo’s instructions: “It is essential to use as much as possible fragments of broadcasts of the popular Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who sharply criticises the actions of the United States [and] Nato, their negative role in unleashing the conflict in Ukraine, [and] the defiantly provocative behavior from the leadership of the eastern countries and Nato towards the Russian Federation and towards President Putin, personally.”
And there you go! Spouting/ agreeing with Russian propaganda! Who is the traitor/ Putin puppet now?
As I have already explained, TC is "questioning" our involvement in Ukraine. Of course Putin will see that as propaganda and report it but Americans ought to be ( some just can't ) smart enough to see it for what it is, a reasonable question to ask.
Some of you may not be old enough to remember what our government was calling anybody that questioned our involvement in Vietnam, they called them traitors for not falling in line with the government, kinda like what Putin is now doing to his own people questioning what he is doing.
Some Americans, thankfully not most, are being duped by Putin and the media they swallow hold. They are actually taking Putin's words, as truth. They are siding with Putin the war criminal to try and shut down any voice in America that asks the questions, "why are we involved in a far away war with no strategic interest to America and couldn't all that money we are sending to help Ukrainians, actually be killing and displacing them when they will more than likely end up agreeing to what Putin wanted in the first place, no NATO in Ukraine".
I personally think that was secondary to the crazy man just wanting Ukraine back in his sphere of influence,and to put back together the "band" to use an old euphemism.
I think TC not only has a point ( that I don't completely agree with ) and I support his right to say it just like I supported those people "in my day" protesting against the Vietnam war which if you opposed, you were labeled a traitor to the US and anti American soldiers. Some did get the two confused and that was a pity.
