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Old 09-11-2021, 01:59 PM   #1
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This past June, I visited the graves of two of my former Green Berets, Jason McDonald and Scott Studenmund. Both interred at Arlington National Cemetery, and both killed on June 9, 2014 in the largest friendly fratricide incident in the history of our war in Afghanistan. As I soberly walked out of Section 60, known as the “saddest acre in America” and where most of our service members killed in action in Iraq and Afghanistan are buried, I reflected on their efforts and sacrifices, and those of other service members that lie nearby, and how these sacrifices, as tragic as they are, were not made in vain.
Unfortunately, after watching tragedy unfold in Kabul—and more importantly, witnessing the shameful words and actions of the current administration's highest-level officials over the last few weeks, I have been forced to reevaluate my sentiments and question the intentions and competency of the people we entrust to make national security decisions and deploy our military with honor.
As both a Ranger School student and later as a Special Forces Qualification Course candidate, I distinctly remember my peers and I being relentlessly questioned about contingency plans by our instructors. “Captain, what is your contingency plan when X happens and X destroys your plan?” or “What is the most dangerous course of action for this operation?” These “contingency inquisitions,” as I called them, were a necessary process that made us think through all eventualities and prepared my teams and me for the unexpected nature of conducting combat operations, which served me throughout my career and during the preparations that led to six overseas deployments. Many times these questions were asked when my Operational Detachment Alpha (“A-Team”) had only hours or days to plan an operation. But however vexing these questions seemed, they were important, because, and as we jokingly say in the Army and based on a quote from the famous military theorist Carl von Clausewitz: “Every plan is a good one—until the first shot is fired.”

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I found myself thinking about my military service, my brothers in arms–both Afghan and American—and about my training on planning contingency operations as I watched in horror alongside most Americans over these past weeks. It is important to recognize the current administration was not the first administration to coordinate the withdrawal in Afghanistan. On April 14, 2021, President Biden announced a four-month postponement of former President Trump's deadline, stating that the troops "will be out of Afghanistan" before Americans mark the 20th anniversary of "that heinous attack on September 11th."
However, we must not lose sight of the one key difference between the Trump and Biden Afghanistan withdrawal plans. The former President had a plan to keep the Taliban in check by ensuring a small contingency force overwatched the Taliban to ensure they remained accountable, whereas the latter, and to be completely blunt, prefers to hope for the best and place trust in an enemy that has proven unworthy of such trust. When President Biden was asked legitimate questions by reporters during his first press conference, it appeared that the only “plan,” was to shift blame towards the military leaders who “instructed” him, or in the alternative, blame former President Trump.



And while Clausewitz’s “shots fired” theory relies on some semblance of a plan; here, when thirteen service members were killed in a suicide attack on August 26th, I question whether the administration even had a plan at all. The absence of such has left me, our Veterans, Gold Star Families, the Afghans, and the American public in a state of mixed emotions.
While few anticipated the speed in which the Taliban would take over the country, this is not the first time they have used such tactics. In early-2014, my Special Forces team conducted operations for several months, in hopes of clearing out any Taliban pockets in preparation of the 2014 Afghan presidential elections, however, the Taliban remained fairly dormant. But when the 2014 Afghan presidential elections started to take form and word came down from the Obama administration that the U.S. was to begin retrograde operations (i.e., packing up and consolidating bases), the Taliban saw a publicity opportunity. Rather than fighting us head-on, the Taliban used our vulnerability to attack us and frame it as a U.S. retreat. When in reality, we were simply fighting the Taliban as we were packing our bags and consolidating to other locations, i.e. Kabul and Kandahar.


To think the Taliban and its affiliate organizations would not repeat these tactics is a complete oversight and shows the Biden administration’s misunderstanding of the conflict, at best, or at worse, a willful disregard for the actual situation and people in Afghanistan as part of their political calculus. This is especially concerning now that the Taliban is claiming victory over Afghan resistance forces in the Panjshir Valley (with the reported help of Pakistani ISI orchestrated air attacks and commandos).
The world is asking: What is/was your plan Mr. President? To pull all U.S. forces out of Afghanistan? Without a coordinated and reintegration plan for our Afghan partners with SIVs? Without any oversight of the Taliban during our withdrawal? Without a diplomatic plan to facilitate relationships with the current Afghan government and the Taliban?—and most importantly, what was your contingency plan when the first shot was fired, i.e. when the Taliban refused to uphold their end of the deal. Moreover, what is your answer to the U.S. service members, their families, and our allies, that sacrificed 20 years of life and limb overseas; and back stateside: missed marriages, births, graduations, and birthdays?

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These questions should be asked, and the Biden Administration must answer and be held accountable. Regardless of what that answer is, our Veterans and their families, Gold Star families, the Afghan people, and the American people deserve that basic statement.
More importantly, and regardless of the Biden administration’s answers, the country cannot and will not be able to heal without a way forward, which will require unity as a country—something we have, and MUST do. As such, we must A) reach back out to the Afghan resistance forces to see how we can help and ensure stability to guarantee that another 9/11 does not happen again, B) develop a real plan centered around on the ground intelligence gathering, and C) be on the same page with our greatest allies, most of whom lost many of their own citizens in this 20 year fight
Derrick Anderson is a former Special Forces “Green Beret” with 6 tours of duty overseas, including in Afghanistan, Iraq, and various countries throughout the Middle East. He is currently a Major in the U.S. National Guard and practices law in Virginia. The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not reflect the policies or positions of the United States Army, Department of Defense, or United States Government.

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LOL accountable ,,,,Impeach the bastard
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For what crimes exactly?
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We shoulda stayed at least another few months to a year to fix everything up before we left.
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We shoulda stayed at least another few months to a year to fix everything up before we left.
Fix what up? Place is a shit hole. We stay another year and the place would be the same as when we left it a couple weeks ago. Fuck that place.
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For what crimes exactly?
That's the question I have for you in regards to sham of Trumps impeachments...tell us Ol' roy boy??
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Fix what up? Place is a shit hole. We stay another year and the place would be the same as when we left it a couple weeks ago. Fuck that place.
So now the PISSANT is giving BILLIONS to the terrorist...tell us why Ol'roy boy??

If you for ONE second think that the "war" is over with them then you have proved you level of comprehension is VERY LOW!!
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The subverted DPST DOJ has outlawed any crime enforcement by police in America.

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So now the PISSANT is giving BILLIONS to the terrorist...tell us why Ol'roy boy??

If you for ONE second think that the "war" is over with them then you have proved you level of comprehension is VERY LOW!!
Billons of garbage or soon to be garbage. A bunch of trucks and 40 year old helicopters. Some night vision goggles so they can scope out goat ass in the dark....

We aren't going back any time soon... Fuck that place.
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as usual - such a shame to have ideation limited to scatology, f-bombs, and name-calling
do grow up some day - 'r'!
so juvenile and immature.
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Billons of garbage or soon to be garbage. A bunch of trucks and 40 year old helicopters. Some night vision goggles so they can scope out goat ass in the dark....

We aren't going back any time soon... Fuck that place.
When are you going to the white house to get you #1 SIMP metal pinned on you be the PISSANT...it should be a PROUD moment for you Ol'roy boy!!
Your IQ is showing...the PISSANT calls it relief

BIDEN REGIME TO GIVE $500 MILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS TO AFGHAN REFUGEES AFTER HE ALLOWS TALIBAN TAKEOVER
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Biden Regime to Give $500 MILLION in Taxpayer Funds to Afghan Refugees After He Allows Taliban Takeover
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KABUL, Afghanistan – President Joe Biden authorized $500 million in aid relief to Afghan refugees on Monday, according to a White House news release.

The money will come from the “United States Emergency Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund for the purpose of meeting unexpected urgent refugee and migration needs of refugees, victims of conflict, and other persons at risk as a result of the situation in Afghanistan, including applicants for Special Immigrant Visas,” according to the White House.

The aid comes after chaotic scenes of Afghans clinging to U.S. military planes in Kabul in a desperate bid to flee their home country after the Taliban’s easy victory over an Afghan military that America and NATO allies had spent two decades trying to build.

Meanwhile, Biden defended his decision to draw back U.S. troops, which left an opening for Taliban fighters to take control, saying the mission was never about nation-building but about preventing future terrorist attacks against the United States.

Biden said he was faced with a choice between sticking to a previously negotiated agreement to withdraw U.S. troops this year or sending thousands more service members back into Afghanistan for a “third decade” of war. Biden said he will not repeat mistakes of the past and did not regret his decision to proceed with the withdrawal.

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“This did unfold more quickly than we anticipated,” he said, adding that had U.S. troops stayed longer in Afghanistan, it wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome.

Biden said he’d rather take the criticism over the fallout in Afghanistan than leave the decision to another president. He said the decision to leave Afghanistan is “the right one for America.”

Biden blamed the fall of Afghanistan on its own military and government leaders failing to protect the country.

“We could not provide them the will to fight for that future,” Biden said.

Biden outlined his plan going forward in U.S.-Afghanistan relations in the White House address.

“We will continue to work with the Afghan people,” he said, emphasizing that he will not resort to military action unless U.S. personnel are harmed. He said he will transport American citizens and diplomats out of Afghanistan. The State Department is asking Americans to take shelter and not to go to the airport until they hear otherwise from U.S. officials.

Biden said if the Taliban interferes with U.S. evacuation efforts, action will be swift.

Biden also said he will expand refugee efforts to help Afghan families and civilians who are at great risk. He said more civilians weren’t evacuated earlier because some were unwilling to do so, choosing to stay in their home country.

The president ended his speech by saying he was the fourth president to preside over the war in Afghanistan and said he had no choice but to complete military withdrawal.

“I will not pass this responsibility on to a fifth president,” he continued. “The buck stops with me.”

The Taliban swept into Afghanistan’s capital Sunday after the government collapsed and the embattled president joined an exodus of his fellow citizens and foreigners, signaling the end of a costly two-decade U.S. campaign to remake the country. Heavily armed Taliban fighters fanned out across the capital, and several entered Kabul’s abandoned presidential palace.

CROWD RUSHES TOWARDS KABUL AIRPORT AS AFGHAN CITIZENS ATTEMPT TO FLEE
A crowd of people ran towards Kabul’s international airport on the morning of August 16, 2021, as citizens tried to flee after the Taliban took control of the capital. Credit – Jawad Sukhanyar via Storyful

Suhail Shaheen, a Taliban spokesman and negotiator, told the Associated Press that the militants would hold talks in the coming days aimed at forming an “open, inclusive Islamic government.”

Thousands of people rushed to Kabul International Airport on Monday, pushing toward the tarmac and onto planes in desperate attempts to leave the country. The chaos left at least seven people dead, including some who fell from a departing American military transport jet, U.S. officials said.

Shortly after Biden’s address, Pentagon officials said the Defense Department’s mission is to secure the airport in Kabul for American citizens and allies.

Videos circulating on social media showed hundreds of people running across the tarmac at Kabul’s airport as U.S. soldiers fired warning shots in the air. One video showed some clinging to the side of a U.S. military transport plane before takeoff.

Another video showed the Afghans falling as the plane gained altitude over Kabul. U.S. troops resorted to firing warning shots and using helicopters to clear a path for transport aircraft.

The Pentagon also confirmed Monday that U.S. forces shot and killed two individuals it said were armed, as Biden ordered another battalion of troops — about 1,000 troops — to secure the airfield, which was closed to arrivals and departures for hours Monday because of civilians on the runway.

RELATED: Satellite images show chaos at Kabul airport as people flee Afghanistan

The U.S. Embassy has been evacuated and the American flag lowered, with diplomats relocating to the airport to aid with the evacuation. Other Western countries have also closed their missions and are flying out staff and nationals.

SATELLITE IMAGES SHOW CHAOTIC SCENES AT KABUL AIRPORT
Satellite imagery from August 16 shows the chaotic scenes at Kabul Airport that morning as thousands of people flocked there in a bid to escape after the Afghan capital fell under Taliban control the previous day. (Credit: Maxar Technologies via Storyful)

A tense calm set in in the capital, with most people hiding in their homes as the Taliban deployed fighters at major intersections. There were scattered reports of looting and armed men knocking on doors and gates, and the streets were eerily quiet for a city of 5 million people usually jammed with traffic. Fighters could be seen searching vehicles at one of the city’s main squares.

After the Taliban freed thousands of prisoners and the police simply melted away, many fear chaos or a return to the kind of brutal rule the Taliban imposed when it was last in power.

Shafi Arifi, who had a ticket to travel to Uzbekistan on Sunday, was unable to board her plane because it was packed with people who had raced across the tarmac and climbed aboard, with no police or airport staff in sight.

“There was no room for us to stand,” the 24-year-old told the Associated Press. “Children were crying, women were shouting, young and old men were so angry and upset, no one could hear each other. There was no oxygen to breathe.”

After another woman fainted and was carried off the plane, Arifi gave up and went back home.

The turmoil in Afghanistan resets the focus in an unwelcome way for Biden, who has largely focused on a domestic agenda that includes emerging from the pandemic, winning congressional approval for trillions of dollars in infrastructure spending and protecting voting rights.

Biden remained at Camp David over the weekend, receiving regular briefings on Afghanistan and holding secure video conference calls with members of his national security team, according to senior White House officials. His administration released a single photo of the president on Sunday alone in a conference room meeting virtually with military, diplomatic and intelligence experts.

He was briefed again by his national security team on Monday before returning to Washington.

Just last week, though, administration officials warned privately that the military was crumbling, prompting Biden on Thursday to order thousands of American troops into the region to speed up evacuation plans.

Presidents Barack Obama and Donald Trump also yearned to leave Afghanistan, but ultimately stood down in the face of resistance from military leaders and other political concerns. Biden, on the other hand, has been steadfast in his refusal to change the Aug. 31 deadline, in part because of his belief that the American public is on his side.

A late July ABC News/Ipsos poll, for instance, showed 55% of Americans approving of Biden’s handling of the troop withdrawal.

Most Republicans have not pushed Biden to keep troops in Afghanistan over the long term and they also supported Trump’s own push to exit the country. Still, some in the GOP stepped up
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Presidents Barack Obama and Donald Trump also yearned to leave Afghanistan, but ultimately stood down in the face of resistance from military leaders and other political concerns. Biden, on the other hand, has been steadfast in his refusal to change the Aug. 31 deadline, in part because of his belief that the American public is on his side.
Glad someone finally had the balls to stand up to the military leadership who lost this war 19 years ago. Maybe we should have backed a different group of pedo warlords.
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