BBFS. In studios

[LickHer]

As always, it is completely dictated by supply and demand, always. Of course LA (due to being 3 times the size of DFW) has more of everything and SF having about 10 times the disposable income per capita has more as well.

As far as the OP's post, even though I don't do BBFS, 90% of the studio girls offer it or just assume it... asking for it certainly won't drive girls away from Dallas.

[City_Punk77]

We are spoiled and that is the jist of it, Dallas ran the Amp scene for the past couple decades and some don't want to accept the truth. It's gone... The vast amount of options available to cater to each gentleman's needs are gone.

The only way thing will change is by competing with LA and NY pricing but we all know that won't happen in Dallas.

But yes, compared to many other cities Dallas is considered the lowest Standard of working as verbally stated by some of the past girls that have worked in Dallas.

[howdy_booty]

Originally Posted by Owj

She is looking really good and much happier than when she was here. I know it is edited pix, but still.

To the extent that those Seven pics are edited it might as well be a different person

[htownhammer]

Originally Posted by Ronin3

Dallas is In serious decline.

Originally Posted by City_Punk77

Dallas ran the Amp scene...It's gone

This realization is a bitter pill to swallow.

[Aoi]

Originally Posted by howdy_booty

To the extent that those Seven pics are edited it might as well be a different person

She showed me the same pictures years ago when I met her.

Saying they're old pics is an understatement, TBH.

Plus, she's way skinnier irl.

And on the subject of pictures, that editor is a hack. All of his girls look the same. They look like asian barbie dolls.

Dallas has a shit reputation. People don't seem to understand that even if girls haven't been here, they still hate Dallas. Word spreads among the community faster than coronavirus did in China. They see Dallas as "It's that place where girls have to do bb in order to get numbers." And when working here, girls get stressed out over the prospect of a dickhead leaving a bad review because he couldn't fulfill his pornstar fantasies.

Originally Posted by Ronin3

I apologize if asking you to act like a man is threatening.

lol, you're still here?

Pathetic.

[Jayhawk328]

Originally Posted by Aoi

Dallas has a shit reputation. People don't seem to understand that even if girls haven't been here, they still hate Dallas. Word spreads among the community faster than coronavirus did in China. They see Dallas as "It's that place where girls have to do bb in order to get numbers." And when working here, girls get stressed out over the prospect of a dickhead leaving a bad review because he couldn't fulfill his pornstar fantasies.

Dallas sucks.....you have said this numerous times, so I hear you you loud and clear. What is it that you want though? Do you want all of us to line up and and as we walk past you, we confess how badly we have all ruined the Dallas hobbying scene? Do you just want people to realize that we all suck and have ruined every girl's career? I'm trying to figure out what it will take for you to move past the contempt you have for every one of us......because the sooner you move past it, the sooner we can all move on.

And I assume the Dallas hobbying scene will never recover? And based on what you have said, the new law has essentially nothing to do with girls leaving.....so how can we improve the hobbying scene here going forward? And if you tell us that the damage is irreparable, then it's clear that your only purpose in posting here is just to rub it in our faces. I'm just trying to work through solutions since you seem to have a lot of insight.

Continuously telling us how bad our reputation is amongst the girls doesn't really provide any value at this point......it maybe did the first handful of times you mentioned it, but at this point, I think we need to move past that and think about what we can do prospectively.

[Ronin3]

Originally Posted by Aoi

She showed me the same pictures years ago when I met her.

Saying they're old pics is an understatement, TBH.

Plus, she's way skinnier irl.

And on the subject of pictures, that editor is a hack. All of his girls look the same. They look like asian barbie dolls.

Dallas has a shit reputation. People don't seem to understand that even if girls haven't been here, they still hate Dallas. Word spreads among the community faster than coronavirus did in China. They see Dallas as "It's that place where girls have to do bb in order to get numbers." And when working here, girls get stressed out over the prospect of a dickhead leaving a bad review because he couldn't fulfill his pornstar fantasies.



lol, you're still here?

Pathetic.

What’s pathetic is your inability to man up and everyone sees it. It’s a reflection of Internet culture that someone like you will insult people with a different opinion in a way you’d never have the balls to do face to face. That’s an open offer I extended to you and stands indefinitely. Write what you want. The truth is out there for anyone to see.

[Aoi]

Originally Posted by Ronin3

What’s pathetic is your inability to man up and everyone sees it. It’s a reflection of Internet culture that someone like you will insult people with a different opinion in a way you’d never have the balls to do face to face. That’s an open offer I extended to you and stands indefinitely. Write what you want. The truth is out there for anyone to see.

Ronin, you have not contributed at all to this discussion beyond "Some people are bad! I'm not though! I have game (LMAO, no you don't!)." Okay, fine. You're not complete scum. But you clearly are a snowflake, triggered at how bad you are at conversing. Here's your fucking cookie.

and

And "I've been all over the place and have been here for a long time!"

I am not impressed. Am I supposed to be? Seriously, how does this add to the discussion?

You couldn't have a simple discussion with me regarding the topic at hand and instead of owning up to your lack of understanding about the situation, you tried to flaunt your status. Then when you realized I wasn't impressed, you're now blaming "internet culture." for your poor showing.

You should have left when you first said you were, instead of sticking around and embarrassing yourself even more with each post.

Originally Posted by Jayhawk328

Dallas sucks.....you have said this numerous times, so I hear you you loud and clear. What is it that you want though? Do you want all of us to line up and and as we walk past you, we confess how badly we have all ruined the Dallas hobbying scene? Do you just want people to realize that we all suck and have ruined every girl's career? I'm trying to figure out what it will take for you to move past the contempt you have for every one of us......because the sooner you move past it, the sooner we can all move on.

I'll move past it when Dallas is at least comparable to LA as viable option for talent to come without having to jump through hoops. And yes, some self reflection wouldn't hurt on a lot of people's parts.

And I assume the Dallas hobbying scene will never recover? And based on what you have said, the new law has essentially nothing to do with girls leaving.....

I have conceded that right now in this climate, the new laws/consequences does affect things. But that doesn't answer to the years in which Dallas already had a shitty stigma. Even if you completely take out the new law, Dallas is still the most hated community amongst the ladies. You're underplaying this and are focusing more on the new law.

so how can we improve the hobbying scene here going forward? And if you tell us that the damage is irreparable, then it's clear that your only purpose in posting here is just to rub it in our faces. I'm just trying to work through solutions since you seem to have a lot of insight.

Stop posting reviews, at least on this forum. This forum has been a shitfest for years. At some point, it stopped being about reviews and more about old men and their egos trying to one up each other. And then people read these reviews and try to get the same experience. Then when things don't go the way they want, people start threatening with nos. If LA can have a good scene without this community, so can we, as Dallasites. I believe I've already mentioned this at least once.

Continuously telling us how bad our reputation is amongst the girls doesn't really provide any value at this point......it maybe did the first handful of times you mentioned it, but at this point, I think we need to move past that and think about what we can do prospectively.

The best start is to stop reviewing.

How does that sound?

[Ghostrider]

I think every thing has been over analized. Feelings and emotions getting involved..... Take 5.

[papijuarez]

At the end of the day, all you guys here in Dallas run the market. It’s all dependent on what the average monger wants to spend here in Dallas. Idk if you’re forgetting cost of living is defined higher in the West Coast and East Coast. And honestly who wants to live in LV? You get tired of the same routine, it’s scorching hot. That’s why the girls travel. I’ve even know of a few girls who head out to Hawaii but again cost of living is to be taken into consideration. That’s why many of these girls travel. Most settle where they feel most comfortable at ,where they have friends or even family. Idk many girls but the few I know usually stay in the area they’re most comfortable with and have social circles in. The Dallas Market won’t die out, it’ll probably be more sporadic now that the new laws have come into effect. The state government is going to have an impact on how it affects these markets.

[reddog1951]

Unfortunately, the Texas state government is likely to rub off on a lot of the rest of the country. I used to be jealous of the monger scene in Dallas and the rest of TX, but not anymore. Supposed affluent cheap ass cowboys and ultra conservative politics seem to have taken the inevitable toll.

[Gandalf4301]

Originally Posted by TX_hammer

ymmv, if you are looking for bbf and provider dont give it find difference provider that all , chill

Read about Alecia the Freak in FT. Worth. You want a hell of a good time, no limit encounter, she may be what you are seeking. Reasonable prices too. No, I'm not her pimp, never seen her, just know about her.

[Gandalf4301]

For what it is worth, Ghost has been a good friend to me and I have never met the man. Just know that the intel he has provided has been right on the money. So, I would suggest you might want to just thank him for his intel/opinion and go on your way. Arguing and name calling serves no purpose what so ever.

Thanks Ghost for your intel, at least one of us appreciates your posting.

[kochu]

Amps where flourishing until the raids started in the last few years. The new law is another blow.

The talk of girls running away from Dallas because of the mongers here is just BS. I guess, some pimps in this thread want to drive up the prices using fear mongering tactics.

[Meiji]

I haven't read the entire thread, but I've hobbied a ton in the SF area and some in LA and Vegas, as well as a bit in Dallas over the years. Several points I'd like to make:

-The vast majority of relatively new kgirls working in the States have either worked previously in Korea, Japan, etc, all of which are very BB friendly orgs.

-There's been pricing issues across the country and it has nothing to do with how girls are treated necessarily and everything to do with where girls can make money and are comfortable working. LA and secondarily SF Bay Area are ALWAYS going to be primary locations simply because they have large Korean communities. Comparing Dallas to LA or Dallas to Vegas is a bad comparison simply because they are completely different markets. Vegas especially is such a weird market because aside from the small number of local mongers, most are there for a weekend or a week and will pay a lot for a hot Korean girl instead of trying to find a casino girl etc. You can't get kgirl outcalls really anywhere else in the country that I know of.

-A girl is only going to work somewhere where her dance card is going to be as full as she wants it to be. Some girls come to the US for 3 months and have 8-10 appointments a day to maximize $$$. Some stay a long time and might take fewer appointments to not burn out.

-The reason the scene is drying up in Dallas has a lot more to do with the dynamics surrounding COVID more than anything. There's fewer new girls coming into the country and it creates a dynamic of the most popular girls and popular locations get the best girls and it trickles down from there. I'm assuming in Dallas the girls here just don't have full dance cards so they move on.

-There's been a pricing adjustment on the west coast too. It was $220 in the Bay Area for years and years, and during COVID it adjusted up to $260 and in some cases girls are asking more or asking for a BB tip. This is your standard 'hooker math' that when business gets slow, they raise prices. The hottest/best girls there are actually getting it because there's fewer choices. Less desirable girls have dance cards that are less full than they used to be.

-I think all of this should be 'resolved' once COVID is less of a thing, all things being equal (new Texas law may mess things up)- more girls will be coming in that will also want full dance cards which will both keep prices relatively low and will also get girls to be willing to work more places than just the west coast.

That being said, if a girl doesn't provide BB she shouldn't be graded more harshly UNLESS she's working for a known BB org and isn't marked as non-BB. If you are TOFTT you can't be surprised that a girl's service offerings aren't what you expect. Just my opinion.