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08-21-2021, 01:04 PM
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So Dr. O'Fallon is a Democrat?
Just because it seems that the majority of those refusing the COVID vaccine seem to be Republicans, there are 10s of millions of Republicans who have opted to take the vaccine. This should not be viewed as a Democrat or Republican issue in my opinion.
Why would party affiliation determine one's likelihood to either get or not get the vaccine?
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Right. The majority of Alaskans are Republicans. The majority of doctors are Republicans. Texassapper like many others is taking his unfounded beliefs about COVID and trying to wrap them into a political agenda. The fact that the majority of them appear to be Trump fans is bizarre. Trump took the vaccine as soon as his doctors recommended it, and his administration implemented Operation Warp Speed, which put us miles ahead of most nations in terms of public health and our economy.
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08-21-2021, 01:06 PM
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So do you think brown shirts should walk into that doctor's clinic, point guns to her head, and tell her she needs to treat this woman? Wouldn't it be easier for the woman just to find another clinic or hospital?
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08-21-2021, 01:07 PM
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Tiny - Chicom DPST narraive - Operation Warp speed never happened
fiden brought forth the vaccine miraculously after injecting himself with bleach and cloning teh antibodies
Trump had nothing to do with it.
Official fiden Chicom DPST Xinn '''Fact"""".
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08-21-2021, 01:12 PM
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Chicoms sure do know how to multiply - better than rabbits!
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You know historically that hasn't been the case Oeb. They had the one child policy. Then I think it became a two child policy as population growth slowed. Now maybe they'll do like Singapore and start paying people money to reproduce. If they can get people to have lots of children watch out. They may replace the USA anyway as the dominant economic and military power, but a larger population would make that happen quicker.
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08-21-2021, 01:21 PM
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"Still think this is about your health an not compliance?"
Yes
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08-21-2021, 01:24 PM
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I don't think most commenting took the time to read the article. This person is being treated for a blood clotting disease, while it is a very small percentage, healthy people have reported some blood clotting issues as a side effect of the vaccine. It seems quite reasonable to think that with her blood clotting disease that getting the vaccine is higher risk for her than most people. Possibly higher than getting covid. This is why mandates shouldn't be applied.
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08-21-2021, 01:32 PM
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"Still think this is about your health an not compliance?"
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She's a doctor in private practice, for goodness sake. Apparently her practice involves treating people with immune disorders, who are particularly vulnerable to COVID. Maybe you have somebody walk in to her clinic with COVID and it spreads to other immune compromised patients, either directly or through the staff. Texassapper appears to believe this should be about compliance, not health, if he wants to tell that doctor who she must treat.
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08-21-2021, 01:34 PM
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I don't think most commenting took the time to read the article. This person is being treated for a blood clotting disease, while it is a very small percentage, healthy people have reported some blood clotting issues as a side effect of the vaccine. It seems quite reasonable to think that with her blood clotting disease that getting the vaccine is higher risk for her than most people. Possibly higher than getting covid. This is why mandates shouldn't be applied.
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That's a valid argument for the J & J vaccine. For the mRNA vaccines the clotting issue only exists in the minds of the antivaxxers. It's not a mandate issue, the issue is she wants to make a scene instead of just going to another clinic.
She contends she can't find another clinic to treat her condition. I don't buy that. Anchorage has 300,000 people and a number of hospitals.
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08-21-2021, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiny
That's a valid argument for the J & J vaccine. For the mRNA vaccines the clotting issue only exists in the minds of the antivaxxers. It's not a mandate issue, the issue is she wants to make a scene instead of just going to another clinic.
She contends she can't find another clinic to treat her condition. I don't buy that.
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In Alsaska that is quite probably true that no one else will treat her. Especially as much of the medical community has consolidated so that there are very few independent Doctors.
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08-21-2021, 01:57 PM
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So do you think brown shirts should walk into that doctor's clinic, point guns to her head, and tell her she needs to treat this woman? Wouldn't it be easier for the woman just to find another clinic or hospital?
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First, Do no harm.
You know what that is right? Mandating that a patient have a vaxx for an experimental drug is ridiculous considering her other health issues.
For some, submitting to the vaxx is more important than treating the patients health.
The alternative to not mandating the shot... is not brownshirts storming the Dr.s office, but nice red herring there....
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08-21-2021, 03:21 PM
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Does that have anything to do with vaccination?
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I have no idea what DPST has to do with vaccination. Why don't you ask him ?
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08-21-2021, 10:39 PM
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I challenge you to support that statement with FACTS.
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Take your pick SPEED...YOU ALWAYS step in it
On a side note...how is the LARGEST American hostage crisis in history THAT the Your man created...WORKING OUT FOR YA??
It's not working out for those 10's of thousands of American who will most like be KILLED!! You ought to be proud of that pissant POS YOU voted for...this bastard is a SERIOUS thread to America and humanity!!
These Dems balked at a coronavirus vaccine under Trump ...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-balked...
Nov 09, 2020 · When President Trump first told the American public that a coronavirus vaccine could come this year -- at the time he said possibly before Election Day -- Democrats …
Author: Ronn Blitzer
Estimated Reading Time: 4 mins
‘I’m not taking it’: Joe Biden, Kamala Harris led Covid ...
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/07/18/im-not...
Jul 18, 2021 · Virtually everything the former president said about the coronavirus vaccine turned out to be true, including his claim that a vaccine would be out by year…
Amid increasing calls for mandatory vaccines, critics note ...
https://www.foxnews.com/media/vaccin...l-anti-vaccine...
Jul 19, 2021 · Media critics have unearthed "anti-vaccine" rhetoric from prominent Democrats and liberal pundits amid calls for more Americans to get the COVID-19 vaccine and even make it mandatory.
Democrats face quandary on vaccine support as election ...
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/democrats...
Sep 19, 2020 · Trump restates his promise of an imminent vaccine almost daily. Trump on Friday promised that 100 million doses of a still-unknown vaccine would be produced by the end of the year …
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08-22-2021, 08:02 AM
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.... they don't want the vaccine. The "vaccines" have not been approved for public consumption by the FDA. So, it is noteworthy that "Blacks and lower income people" are smarter than you!
They learned to question the government during the immediate past administration, particularly after the current administration told them the vaccine wasn't safe, because Trump said it was.
As your primary care physician how many scientific studies he/she has reviewed in which the vaccines are being tested on animals and humans with the results logged into the reports for the FDA to review in the approval process. The should be attached to the patent documents filed with them ... if they exist.
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The odds are that tomorrow the Pfizer vaccine will be fully approved by the FDA. If not tomorrow, very shortly thereafter.
Why aren't blacks getting the vaccine at the same rate as whites?
"But experts say the narrative that Black people, and communities of color more widely, are more vaccine hesitant, may not be the whole story. Instead, they argue, lack of access to vaccines and structural barriers are also hurting vaccination rates in these communities. There's a risk to perpetuating that single-story narrative, they say. Overemphasizing hesitancy diverts attention away from policies that could fix those access problems and hinders the U.S. vaccine distribution strategy at large.
"We had been hearing that vaccine hesitancy was a barrier to getting minorities, specifically Black and Latino communities vaccinated," said Dr. Jorge Caballero, a clinical instructor at Stanford Medicine and co-founder of the group Coders Against COVID. "The more data that we have, the less that assertion is actually supported.""
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/vaccin...ry?id=77272753
The doctor responsible for doing the test studies for the Pfizer vaccine in our area analyzes input virtually every day on the effectiveness of their vaccine. I fill out a diary on a weekly basis indicating any changes in my health status, as do approximately 43,000 other study participants nationwide or worldwide. The doctor is available almost around the clock if emergencies arise.
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08-22-2021, 08:09 AM
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NOW I KNOW WHAT DON'T MESS WITH TX TRASH IS, FU hustle suspend license another 3 month, I don't care.
but I moma still born trash hustler
MOMA GET PAID TO FUCK
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08-22-2021, 08:46 AM
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Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
Location: Georgetown, Texas
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Originally Posted by bb1961
Take your pick SPEED...YOU ALWAYS step in it
On a side note...how is the LARGEST American hostage crisis in history THAT the Your man created...WORKING OUT FOR YA??
It's not working out for those 10's of thousands of American who will most like be KILLED!! You ought to be proud of that pissant POS YOU voted for...this bastard is a SERIOUS thread to America and humanity!!
These Dems balked at a coronavirus vaccine under Trump ...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-balked...
Nov 09, 2020 · When President Trump first told the American public that a coronavirus vaccine could come this year -- at the time he said possibly before Election Day -- Democrats …
Author: Ronn Blitzer
Estimated Reading Time: 4 mins
‘I’m not taking it’: Joe Biden, Kamala Harris led Covid ...
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/07/18/im-not...
Jul 18, 2021 · Virtually everything the former president said about the coronavirus vaccine turned out to be true, including his claim that a vaccine would be out by year…
Amid increasing calls for mandatory vaccines, critics note ...
https://www.foxnews.com/media/vaccin...l-anti-vaccine...
Jul 19, 2021 · Media critics have unearthed "anti-vaccine" rhetoric from prominent Democrats and liberal pundits amid calls for more Americans to get the COVID-19 vaccine and even make it mandatory.
Democrats face quandary on vaccine support as election ...
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/democrats...
Sep 19, 2020 · Trump restates his promise of an imminent vaccine almost daily. Trump on Friday promised that 100 million doses of a still-unknown vaccine would be produced by the end of the year …
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I was actually referring to "Trump-haters" on this forum who might have been objecting to the vaccine.
3 of the 4 links you supplied were not working but I will respond to your remarks.
Yes, many Democrats and non-Democrats thought Trump was pushing too fast at the beginning. He stated a vaccine could be available in October 2020 which was ridiculously optimistic. As part of Pfizer's study group, I did not receive my 2nd shot until mid-September. Pfizer did not seek emergency approval of their vaccine until December 10. The CDC estimated a vaccine to be available in either November or December in very limited supply. Trump's statement that 100 million doses of a vaccine would be available by the end of 2020 was also very inaccurate.
I don't condemn Trump for his statements which turned out to be optimistic. He was in the middle of a presidential race and realized the COVID-19 pandemic was on the minds of voters. A vaccine was given conditional approval by the FDA in December, still quiite an achievement.
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