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Old 08-18-2021, 08:38 AM   #31
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Boy you sure do make this easy...
[https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/568154-trumps-deal-with-the-taliban-set-the-stage-for-the-afghan-collapse
As do you. Your own link shows what you are saying is NOT a fact but an opinion.


The FACTS are: Joey Puddins regime is in charge. Joey Puddins could have done ANYTHING he wanted from make everyone where pink when they got on the planes to dropping nukes on the Taliban. He CHOSE (against Military and Intel advice) to do nothing and let fate take it's course.

Again.... the issue isn't that the Astan government collapsed. It's that it collapsed so quickly DESPITE what Joey and Milley Vanilli said a month ago and the fact that we've abandoned US citizens on the ground there.

Try to read for comprehension, Wedgie.
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Old 08-18-2021, 09:12 AM   #32
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The RNC has removed any reference to this deal on their website like the little bitch ass cowards all of them are.


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https://thehill.com/opinion/national...fghan-collapse


"History will mark Aug. 15, 2021, as the date that the Afghan government collapsed and the Taliban retook control over this troubled and war-torn country. But the real date that the Taliban's victory was assured is Feb. 29, 2020, the day the Trump administration signed what it characterized as a "peace" deal with the Taliban. Once this agreement was signed - the tragic collapse we witnessed this weekend was inevitable."
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Old 08-18-2021, 09:16 AM   #34
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Trump: “He’s (Biden) not running government anyway. They have a cabal that runs government. A group of people.”

Maria: “Who’s running it, Mr. President? Who do you think is in charge?”

Trump: “I don’t want to say right now.”

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Old 08-18-2021, 09:30 AM   #35
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That is conjecture (look it up yourself).

FACT: Joey Puddins went on vacay to Camp David and then blamed Trump for something he was 100% responsible for... because THAT'S what Liberals do.
Trump was the one who signed the deal, so no Biden was not 100% responsible.

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Awe...now you're complaining to other people that I'm mean to you? Awe poor baby.

Your mother housing you downstairs is doing you a dis-service, Wedgie.
I was responding to his post, nothing more. Nice try. Of course you have nothing else to come back with other than "Yeah, well yo momma!"

So sad.

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As do you. Your own link shows what you are saying is NOT a fact but an opinion.

now you are just shifting argument. I said Trump's excessive golf playing was a fact and it is.

The FACTS are: Joey Puddins regime is in charge. Joey Puddins could have done ANYTHING he wanted from make everyone where pink when they got on the planes to dropping nukes on the Taliban. He CHOSE (against Military and Intel advice) to do nothing and let fate take it's course.

Again.... the issue isn't that the Astan government collapsed. It's that it collapsed so quickly DESPITE what Joey and Milley Vanilli said a month ago and the fact that we've abandoned US citizens on the ground there.

Try to read for comprehension, Wedgie.
So what in your honest opinion do you think Trump would have done differently? After all he did sign the deal, there's no denying that. He was calling for the US to pull out even earlier than we did, there's no denying that. There's no reason to believe things would have gone differently had he been in charge.

Now let's see if you can answer like an adult.
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Old 08-18-2021, 09:32 AM   #36
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The RNC has removed any reference to this deal on their website like the little bitch ass cowards all of them are.
Of course they did. When have you ever known the fascist-conservatives to own up to their mistakes?
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Old 08-18-2021, 09:36 AM   #37
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ta - your critiques to the communist minion LM are valid -

The only responses One will receive from the 'poster' - is scripted obstruction and nonsense retorts.

It is incapable of thinking for itself - only Groupthink and doublespeak Communist narrative are allowed in the DPST revolutionary party of communist Dupes.



It is a 'release' - to point out the nosnense they post - but One cannot change their minds
They are too deeply indoctrinated in to their jackboot narrative ideology.



Save it - when they try to install marxism - and spark a civil conflict - we will ship them to Venezuela and let them sit there for life
A lesson in in their beloved Marxist dictatorship.
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Trump was the one who signed the deal, so no Biden was not 100% responsible.



I was responding to his post, nothing more. Nice try. Of course you have nothing else to come back with other than "Yeah, well yo momma!"

So sad.



So what in your honest opinion do you think Trump would have done differently? After all he did sign the deal, there's no denying that. He was calling for the US to pull out even earlier than we did, there's no denying that. There's no reason to believe things would have gone differently had he been in charge.

Now let's see if you can answer like an adult.
No way he can, he is a petulant trumptard child that has no clue what is going on.
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Old 08-18-2021, 11:15 AM   #39
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'r' - Please stop the insulting name-calling - and degrading use of teh term 'retard' - implied in your continued use of the term 'Trumptard"

It is dehumanizing and inappropriate on Your Part.

It shows your own hatred and fear of President Donald J Trump - and freedom loving Americans Everywhere!



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Old 08-18-2021, 11:50 AM   #40
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'r' - Please stop the insulting name-calling - and degrading use of teh term 'retard' - implied in your continued use of the term 'Trumptard"

It is dehumanizing and inappropriate on Your Part.

It shows your own hatred and fear of President Donald J Trump - and freedom loving Americans Everywhere!



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He isn't acting human or even American, think he is Igor's brother boris.
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Trump: “He’s (Biden) not running government anyway. They have a cabal that runs government. A group of people.”

Maria: “Who’s running it, Mr. President? Who do you think is in charge?”

Trump: “I don’t want to say right now.”

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This is classic H I M.

What interview is this?
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Biden is the commander and chief of the military. He had complete authority over what happened.
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Trump was the one who signed the deal, so no Biden was not 100% responsible.
I'll try and make this as simple as possible for you so that even you might be able to grasp what is and is NOT within the power of the Executive branch. Let's do a little compare and contrast, eh?

Keystone pipeline. Trump authorized construction of the pipeline and on day one, Joey Puddins cancelled it. Would you say that Puddins is NOT 100% responsible for cancelling it? Or would you partially blame Trump because after all he authorized it?

Now let talk about the Taliban. Trump signed the agreement (NOT a TREATY mind you) and set up a plan to be out by May 1. Puddins comes on board and doesn't meet the May 1 date. It's now 6 months later and Puddins abandons Afghan forces support by not sharing intel and providing air support. The Taliban over run Kabul after the collapse of the Afghan Armyin three days and Puddins does not provide security for remaining US citizens. Now is that Puddins fault or Trumps?

Remember this isn't a TREATY which means the Executive branch is free to do WHAT THE FCUK EVER IT WANTS. Puddins could have canceled the deal entirely if he wanted to... just like he did with Keystone.

If you can't hold Trump responsible for canceling Keystone, I don't know what kind of fcuked up logic makes you think he's responsible for the botched EXECUTION of the withdrawal of forces that Trump signed. And it was an agreement to leave NOT THE FCUKING HOW... but the actual agreement to leave.

The HOW it was executed is all over Puddins face and the dead civilians he's going to leave behind.

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So what in your honest opinion do you think Trump would have done differently? After all he did sign the deal, there's no denying that. He was calling for the US to pull out even earlier than we did, there's no denying that. There's no reason to believe things would have gone differently had he been in charge.
You can read the fcuking agreement here. There is NOTHING in here about the particulars of HOW the withdrawal is executed... just stipulations that the Taliban will not threaten US forces and Allies. I've already written that we needed to GTFO, the expectation was that Afghan security forces would fight... when that didn't happen and the Taliban we're advancing quickly, the supposed CinC could have sent in B-52s, the 82nd, a Marine MEU, or any of a hundred other options... instead Puddins just said "No point in sterring now!" and let this thing turn into a shit show.

We don't get to know what Trump would have done differently. That's not even a matter for debate, you dumbass. The nation must deal with WHAT IS, not what someone else might have done. And Frankly, Puddins is doing worse than if we just made decisions by flipping a coin. I get it you're an emotional tweener and gots to defend the Vegetable in Chief. But guess what , Wedgie, the CinC isn't constrained by what Trump negotiated and approved...

That's the point you mindless "But Trump woulda" asshats need to understand.... it doesn't fcuking matter what Trump woulda... it matters what Puddins SHOULDA... as in maybe he and Milley vanilli shoulda been doing their jobs instead of looking for mythical extremists in the ranks or making sure white men went through the chow line last.

Fcuking stupid priorities led to stupid blindness, which has led to stupid consequences. Unfortunately, those deadly consequences will be visited on innocent folks rather than the dumbasses in DC and the Pentagon.
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Old 08-18-2021, 12:32 PM   #44
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I'll try and make this as simple as possible for you so that even you might be able to grasp what is and is NOT within the power of the Executive branch. Let's do a little compare and contrast, eh?

Keystone pipeline. Trump authorized construction of the pipeline and on day one, Joey Puddins cancelled it. Would you say that Puddins is NOT 100% responsible for cancelling it? Or would you partially blame Trump because after all he authorized it?

Now let talk about the Taliban. Trump signed the agreement (NOT a TREATY mind you) and set up a plan to be out by May 1. Puddins comes on board and doesn't meet the May 1 date. It's now 6 months later and Puddins abandons Afghan forces support by not sharing intel and providing air support. The Taliban over run Kabul after the collapse of the Afghan Armyin three days and Puddins does not provide security for remaining US citizens. Now is that Puddins fault or Trumps?

Remember this isn't a TREATY which means the Executive branch is free to do WHAT THE FCUK EVER IT WANTS. Puddins could have canceled the deal entirely if he wanted to... just like he did with Keystone.

If you can't hold Trump responsible for canceling Keystone, I don't know what kind of fcuked up logic makes you think he's responsible for the botched EXECUTION of the withdrawal of forces that Trump signed. And it was an agreement to leave NOT THE FCUKING HOW... but the actual agreement to leave.

The HOW it was executed is all over Puddins face and the dead civilians he's going to leave behind.

You can read the fcuking agreement here. There is NOTHING in here about the particulars of HOW the withdrawal is executed... just stipulations that the Taliban will not threaten US forces and Allies. I've already written that we needed to GTFO, the expectation was that Afghan security forces would fight... when that didn't happen and the Taliban we're advancing quickly, the supposed CinC could have sent in B-52s, the 82nd, a Marine MEU, or any of a hundred other options... instead Puddins just said "No point in sterring now!" and let this thing turn into a shit show.

We don't get to know what Trump would have done differently. That's not even a matter for debate, you dumbass. The nation must deal with WHAT IS, not what someone else might have done. And Frankly, Puddins is doing worse than if we just made decisions by flipping a coin. I get it you're an emotional tweener and gots to defend the Vegetable in Chief. But guess what , Wedgie, the CinC isn't constrained by what Trump negotiated and approved...

That's the point you mindless "But Trump woulda" asshats need to understand.... it doesn't fcuking matter what Trump woulda... it matters what Puddins SHOULDA... as in maybe he and Milley vanilli shoulda been doing their jobs instead of looking for mythical extremists in the ranks or making sure white men went through the chow line last.

Fcuking stupid priorities led to stupid blindness, which has led to stupid consequences. Unfortunately, those deadly consequences will be visited on innocent folks rather than the dumbasses in DC and the Pentagon.
So I guess you can't answer like and adult?

You say we don't know what Trump would have done? So are you saying that Trump very well would have gone back on his word about the deadline? Are you saying that Trump signed an exit agreement without a plan in place? That wasn't very smart. Kind of reminds me of repeal and replace plan.

It does matter, cause he was the one who signed the agreement and put Biden in a catch 22. Had Biden not have honored the agreement there would have been consequences there as well.
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Old 08-18-2021, 12:34 PM   #45
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No way he can, he is a petulant trumptard child that has no clue what is going on.
Nope he can't. Does that surprise you? Dang sure as hell doesn't surprise me. People like hime seem to think that throwing out childish insults wins them debates
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