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Old 07-20-2021, 10:21 AM   #121
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HCQ and Ivermectin work.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33042552/

How many lives would have saved if the MSM didn’t try to destroy it?
Do you even know what you’re reading.
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Old 07-20-2021, 10:25 AM   #122
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1b1 - to be critical of a post - implies knowledge of teh content.

have You read the post quoted?
This from One who regularly does not suport or substantiate One's Posts.

Please let us return to the On topic:




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Old 07-20-2021, 10:40 AM   #123
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The best thing I’ve done. Lifted the intelligence of the shit I read on here tremendously.
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Old 07-20-2021, 10:49 AM   #124
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Trump wins election 2016......everything is fine
Trump loses election 2020......crybaby, lawsuits, tantrums, must have been rigged


Just amazing how the elections work. Note Trump on polls:


Good poll for Trump.....everything is fine
Bad poll for Trump.....tantrums, must have been rigged
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Old 07-20-2021, 10:55 AM   #125
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The best thing I’ve done. Lifted the intelligence of the shit I read on here tremendously.

Thank u - 1b1 - if i am on ignore - why did you respond???
And - why continue to 'read this shit' ???


I do welcome cogent, constructive, thoughtful debate and discussion on the topic of fascist DPST Voter Fraud and Cover-up..

you are capable of such - so please - rise to the potential - and above the limits of teh fascist DPST totalitarian ideology you seem unable / unwilling to examine critically.



Thank you, 1b1.
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Old 07-20-2021, 11:25 AM   #126
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Total clown. And he thinks he is a star.

Can't believe people send him their money.






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Old 07-20-2021, 03:46 PM   #127
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And his ideas were STUPID. that’s what you get when someone doesn’t actually read or listen to experts. They assume stupid shit like putting disinfectant in peoples lungs. Even my 15 year old thought that was a STUPID idea. But you Trumpys tried to make sense of it because you couldn’t admit to yourselves that Trump is a dumbass, hence Trumpys are dumbasses.

I’m glad you recognize that the other “treatments” he was pushing at the time like HCQ and Zinc with Z packs or even better waiting for spring to come were not treatments at all. Just something to soothe the feeble minds of Trumpys.
What's stupid is lining up for a Vaccine that isn't even FDA approved yet. I haven't had Covid and I probably won't even get Covid. It's better to develop treatments than a Vaccine. Treatments can be monitored vaccines can't.
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Old 07-20-2021, 05:51 PM   #128
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What's stupid is lining up for a Vaccine that isn't even FDA approved yet. I haven't had Covid and I probably won't even get Covid. It's better to develop treatments than a Vaccine. Treatments can be monitored vaccines can't.
Why can't a vaccine be monitored?

Also "the vaccines were authorized for emergency use by FDA. These vaccines have undergone and will continue to undergo the most intensive safety monitoring in U.S. history."

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-b...ines-explained
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Old 07-20-2021, 06:03 PM   #129
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Fox told him the vaccine came from someone’s basement.
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Old 07-20-2021, 06:49 PM   #130
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Denial, deflection and Lies as disinformation

you can be cogent and constructive -1b1

you are not a 'victim' of systemic racism.
Please consider giving of your talents on forum - rather than trite one-liner ridiculosities.

you do lose credibility with such posts.
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Old 07-20-2021, 07:06 PM   #131
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Also "the vaccines were authorized for emergency use by FDA. These vaccines have undergone and will continue to undergo the most intensive safety monitoring in U.S. history."
I've worked on the periphery of pharma for a dozen years implementing systems for them.. worked with two Covid test producer startups within the last year. The Emergency testing consisted of - well - it didn't kill them right away.

That's it. I mean the mRNA process has been assumed to have been thoroughly well understood for a number of years. But rather than test and track over tens of years, we've reversed the process because the rubber supposedly had to meet the road so quickly. Google thalidomide. That drug even went through the rigorous testing standards of the day and it caused birth defects FFS. Why do you think the EUA specifically exempts the manufacturers from liability? It's because they DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LONG TERM AFFECTS ARE EITHER.

You can believe the government at your own risk. I just look at it this way. Why should I take a drug that is not fully tested to save me from a extreme case of the flu that I have a 99.98% chance of surviving? If you had to bet the outcome of that answer for HWP adults < 55yo would your money be on No, I will risk the extreme flu or Yes, I'll take the experimental shot?

I know how I'd bet.
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Old 07-20-2021, 07:10 PM   #132
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I've worked on the periphery of pharma for a dozen years implementing systems for them.. worked with two Covid test producer startups within the last year. The Emergency testing consisted of - well - it didn't kill them right away.

That's it. I mean the mRNA process has been assumed to have been thoroughly well understood for a number of years. But rather than test and track over tens of years, we've reversed the process because the rubber supposedly had to meet the road so quickly. Google thalidomide. That drug even went through the rigorous testing standards of the day and it caused birth defects FFS. Why do you think the EUA specifically exempts the manufacturers from liability? It's because they DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LONG TERM AFFECTS ARE EITHER.

You can believe the government at your own risk. I just look at it this way. Why should I take a drug that is not fully tested to save me from a extreme case of the flu that I have a 99.98% chance of surviving? If you had to bet the outcome of that answer for HWP adults < 55yo would your money be on No, I will risk the extreme flu or Yes, I'll take the experimental shot?

I know how I'd bet.
Me too.
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Old 07-20-2021, 07:15 PM   #133
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ta - you are correct about thalidomide - a mostly forgotten episode -

Thalidomide was never released in America - the fetal limb abnormalities were in Europe



I think the vaccine is reasonably safe - I had the diseae - so no need to be vaccinated - IMHO.

I support your POV to refuse the vaccine - the politicized fascist DPST control freaks see vaccination and masks as a symbol of compliance to their Rule - and raise their expectations for marxist revolution .
For the Fascist DPST's - it is "Obey" - or die!


they may well face that themselves when they try to confiscate weapons in Middle America.

Righteously So- to teh Godless DPST marxist revolutionaries.
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Old 07-20-2021, 10:36 PM   #134
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Why can't a vaccine be monitored?

Also "the vaccines were authorized for emergency use by FDA. These vaccines have undergone and will continue to undergo the most intensive safety monitoring in U.S. history."

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-b...ines-explained
You obviously don't understand. Recipients of the Vaccine don't have Covid or they shouldn't anyway. Once the vaccine in administered there is no way of monitoring it's effectiveness against contracting Covid. Treatments are administered to patients that actually have an active case of Covid the patient is under a Doctors care and the patients progress and response to the treatment can be monitored.
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Old 07-21-2021, 12:18 PM   #135
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You obviously don't understand. Recipients of the Vaccine don't have Covid or they shouldn't anyway. Once the vaccine in administered there is no way of monitoring it's effectiveness against contracting Covid. Treatments are administered to patients that actually have an active case of Covid the patient is under a Doctors care and the patients progress and response to the treatment can be monitored.
Of course someone can monitor effectiveness. It would require a double blind study, and daily check ins, with the subjects, who get vaccinated. I'd guess that one, or more, of these studies is in progress, but that's a complete guess.
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