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Old 07-16-2021, 04:17 PM   #31
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then whats the beef?, be super transparent and let 'em count and have full access
That's called a "tell."
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Old 07-17-2021, 07:04 AM   #32
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I guess you missed the hearing yesterday. You can label them what you wish. Kinda immature. But that’s ok. Every state delegation that visited called the audit the “Gold Standard”.Massive fraud was exposed. It’s hard to get things done expeditiously when you have to subpoena records and they refuse to obey the law. But they’ll have to sooner or later. But the cats out of the bag.
Whether others called the "forensic" audit the "Gold Standard" means nothing until the audit proves fraud was sommitted. There has been no massive fraud exposed. None. Zilch. Rien. Pure speculation by those Trump supporters who read articles from OAN, The Gateway Pundit, Breitbart, Newsmax, The Federalist, etc. and take what they say to the bank. J'accuse!
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Old 07-17-2021, 07:27 AM   #33
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Whether others called the "forensic" audit the "Gold Standard" means nothing until the audit proves fraud was sommitted. There has been no massive fraud exposed. None. Zilch. Rien. Pure speculation by those Trump supporters who read articles from OAN, The Gateway Pundit, Breitbart, Newsmax, The Federalist, etc. and take what they say to the bank. J'accuse!
They proved it in the hearing. Now, you are purposely denying facts. Goodbye Speedy.
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Old 07-17-2021, 07:53 AM   #34
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There has been no massive fraud exposed. None. Zilch. Rien.
What do you think the election volunteers are counting here after the observers were told to leave?

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Old 07-17-2021, 08:33 AM   #35
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They proved it in the hearing. Now, you are purposely denying facts. Goodbye Speedy.
They continue to have absolutely NOTHING concrete.

Was that a Senate hearing on Arizona's election audit or a Trump infomercial?

Opinion: The Arizona Senate's two-hour hearing on the election audit was like one of MyPillow Guy Mike Lindell’s infomercials or Rudy Giuliani’s legislative briefings. Or a Donald Trump press release.

It was long on inuendo, as Logan and his team threw out unverified allegations that the county didn’t bother verifying voters’ signatures on early ballots and that their computer system lacked the basic security precautions of a home computer.

Logan insinuated that 11,326 people cast ballots who weren't registered, that 3,981 registered after the Oct. 15 deadline, that 18,000 voters were removed from the rolls right after the eleciton and that 74,243 more early ballots were cast than were requested, though he says that could have been a clerical error.

Maricopa County officials were livid, saying that Logan’s claim it didn’t verify signatures is “categorically false”. As for his insinuations about poor cybersecurity and illegal voting? They are proof, the county says, that the auditors don't know what they're doing.


https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...al/7985985002/

We Now Know Exactly What the Trump-Backed Arizona “Audit” Is Going to Do



On Thursday, Arizona Senate President Karen Fann offered the public its clearest picture yet of the monthslong audit of Maricopa County’s election, holding a hearing with auditor, Cyber Ninjas CEO, and Hugo-Chavez-somehow-corrupted-the-2020-election-despite-being-dead conspiracy theorist Doug Logan.

Logan, whose work pretending to hand-tabulate the ballots and checking for bamboo fibers in ballot paper ended three weeks ago, offered very little about what his “recount” and “forensic analysis” had uncovered. He instead said that he had much work still to do and that he would save his “irrefutable” evidence for his final report. Logan is asking the state Senate to issue further subpoenas to the Republican-dominated Maricopa County Board of Supervisors (who have come to see the audit as a dangerous “circus”) and to let him go ahead with a countywide canvass that the U.S. Department of Justice has warned might violate federal law. Indeed, the only other Republican senator taking part in the hearing, Judiciary Committee Chairman Warren Petersen, made a show of repeatedly insisting that unless Logan is given what he wants, the audit will be “incomplete.

In other words, not much came out of the hearing except the likelihood that, as has been clear for months, the audit will be revealed as a haphazard attempt to cloud the 2020 election results for Arizona’s most populous county in doubt. What did come out, however, was plenty for Donald Trump.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-debunked.html
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Old 07-17-2021, 08:36 AM   #36
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What do you think the election volunteers are counting here after the observers were told to leave?

OAN again? Give me a break!

There is absolutely nothing in that video that is substantiated evidence of voter fraud. People looking for voter fraud will believe what they want to believe without any evidence.

In Georgia there was a hand count of votes and it matched the tally provided by the machines. Case closed.
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Old 07-17-2021, 08:45 AM   #37
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Whether others called the "forensic" audit the "Gold Standard" means nothing until the audit proves fraud was sommitted. There has been no massive fraud exposed. None. Zilch. Rien. Pure speculation by those Trump supporters who read articles from OAN, The Gateway Pundit, Breitbart, Newsmax, The Federalist, etc. and take what they say to the bank. J'accuse!

Sr - are you joining teh fascist Goebbels campaign to censor fox and Oann out of existence as 'hate speech' - and leave only Xinn and MSNBC to spout propaganda to sheeples willing ears?
Appears so.

Such a closed, closed Mind.




Sheeples are deluded by teh LSM propaganda they are desperate to believe - and have teh fiden crime cabal Big Government take care of their insecure selves for life.


Still caught up in teh 'russia Hoax and trump hatred - a wonderful deflection for teh sheeples from teh fascist reality of teh fiden crime cabal.



And - BG under fiden is happy to do just that - along with the entire American hemisphere- and all of Africa and Asia.

sheeples will just love their standard of living under fiden BG - as BG confiscates homes to house hundreds of 'new citizens' per home.
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Even Raffensberger is admitting there was fraud in Georgia

https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/16...-cast-in-2020/
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Old 07-17-2021, 09:08 AM   #39
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The biggest crybaby in the country....the man who thinks he is still President


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Why all the focus on Trump? You would have to flip more than Arizona to change things, even if that were possible.

However.. Mark Kelly beat Martha McSally by about 80,000 so-called votes out of about two million plus. Might the fraud evidence lead to reversing that one?

Then, Chuck Schumer gets to be minority leader. All the Senate committees go back to Republican control. Not bad for results there...
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OAN again? Give me a break!

There is absolutely nothing in that video that is substantiated evidence of voter fraud. People looking for voter fraud will believe what they want to believe without any evidence.

In Georgia there was a hand count of votes and it matched the tally provided by the machines. Case closed.
Still waiting for an explanation of why luggage full of ballots were stored under the table, only removed and counted once observers are gone, and why as can clearly be seen on the video, the counted stacks are run through 4-5 times. You can say it's not substantiated evidence all you like... that doesn't mean it's not evidence.

What's the plausible explanation other than the simple one.. they are cheating?
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Old 07-17-2021, 04:12 PM   #42
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Still waiting for an explanation of why luggage full of ballots were stored under the table, only removed and counted once observers are gone, and why as can clearly be seen on the video, the counted stacks are run through 4-5 times. You can say it's not substantiated evidence all you like... that doesn't mean it's not evidence.

What's the plausible explanation other than the simple one.. they are cheating?
Off topic, that video was from Atlanta. And it wasn't luggage, just storage containers. Fake news, video had no timeline or context.
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Old 07-17-2021, 05:20 PM   #43
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Still waiting for an explanation of why luggage full of ballots were stored under the table, only removed and counted once observers are gone, and why as can clearly be seen on the video, the counted stacks are run through 4-5 times. You can say it's not substantiated evidence all you like... that doesn't mean it's not evidence.

What's the plausible explanation other than the simple one.. they are cheating?
the official line by the election officials was the the machine was jamming and had to re-run.

I've seen the videos and what both officers scan the machines. what made it difficult to tell if both officers reset the scanning machine due to the placement of the equipment not in front of the camera. you could not tell if they reset the machine.

if they're so prone to jamming, why did they get the machines in the first place?

their story smells.

btw, the suitcase box is how they store the ballots in. its standard equipment in Georgia. it was put there in the morning. the claim was it was a completed scan waiting for a final tabulation scan. the table was covered up too. it was uncovered once in the morning when the purple shirt officer inspected it. uncovered again when everyone left.

that sounds dodgy.
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Yes, all the states got together and organized a massive election fraud so Trump could not get re-elected.


How stupid are Trump supporters ?
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Old 07-17-2021, 08:14 PM   #45
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Yes, all the states got together and organized a massive election fraud so Trump could not get re-elected.


How stupid are Trump supporters ?

for once your post is actually correct but not in the way you think. there was no massive fraud because it wasn't needed. and it's too obvious and difficult to do. did i mention it's not needed?



smart cheaters focus on the swing states. that's how you steal an election.
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