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Old 06-28-2021, 09:45 AM   #46
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In the Houston metro area MEs are getting better IMO primarily due to internet communication .... decades ago there was a U.S. ag inspector looking into some milk product foolishness locally and got 2 rounds in the back with rifle loads .... "suicide"! More recently in another county nearby the son of some friends was "suicide" with three pistol rounds and one entered in the top of his head and passed out his neck ... reportedly the 3rd round. Once it's on paper it's tough to change.
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Old 06-28-2021, 09:54 AM   #47
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George Floyd was a covid death.
Floyd should not have died irrespective of any reports. There's no point in reliving his death for months and years to come. Rodney King and the Floyd incident did have something in common that is continuously and carefully ignored .... for some reason.

King was handcuffed, compliant, and in the custody of a female California State Trooper who was about half King's size before he was UNCUFFED and turned over to the thugs who beat on him because he would not "cooperate" with THEIR arrest attempt.

Same with Floyd ... he was IN CUSTODY AND CUFFED sitting on the side walk leaning with his back against the wall ... COMPLIANT. He was in NO RESPITORY DISTRESS and offering ZERO resistance. The officer (WHO HAS NOT BEEN CHARGED) released him by uncuffing him and turning him over to the 3-4 who ended up pinning him to the ground.

Aside from King and Floyd's own unlawful behavior of "resisting" the officers who should go down were the California Trooper and the street beat officer who had them in custody and SAFE before they released them to their demise.

The arresting officer is RESPONSIBLE for the arrestee's safety.
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Old 06-28-2021, 11:27 AM   #48
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I have never seen a death certificate with "Flu" as the cause of death.
The CDC numbers for annual deaths and hospitalizations from seasonal flu are estimates.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit...ons_and_deaths
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Old 06-28-2021, 12:52 PM   #49
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The people keeping records on the safety of the vaccines administered to sheep are the same people who have doctored the hospital and medical records of those allegedly "suffering" or "dying" of Covid19 in order to get more Federal grant money for their medical business.
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If died in a car wreck or was murdered, if they had C19 that is what they died from.

In my area of NYS when they update deaths there is always some "but from what ever date" Look back in the news to that date. mmmm the numbers always match murdered n car wreck mmmmm How can that be
edit add ops forgot
when above numbers are to high for murder or car wreck. Check claims of the few that died from the shot in the area. And by fucking magic the numbers match again. So if did not have C19 but died from the shot, ya died of c19 in NY.
Here are the total number of people who died in the USA, by year:

2020: 3,358,814 (1) Provisional
2019: 2,854,838 (2)
2018: 2,839,205 (2)
2017: 2,813,503 (2)

(1) https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm
(2) https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm


You had 504,000 more people die in the USA in 2020 than in 2019. Why was that if it wasn't COVID? What kind of mysterious disease is out there that we don't know about?

The WHO, CDC and Johns Hopkins probably understated the number of deaths that occurred in the USA in 2020 because of COVID. Their counts were around 335,000 to 350,000 dead. But that's much less than the 504,000. You can't attribute all of the 150,000+ difference just to changing demographics, between 2019 and 2020. There were people who died in 2020 whose deaths were attributed to things like heart disease, Alzheimer's and diabetes, who wouldn't have died in 2020 if they hadn't had COVID.
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Old 06-28-2021, 01:33 PM   #50
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Here are the total number of people who died in the USA, by year:

2020: 3,358,814 (1) Provisional
2019: 2,854,838 (2)
2018: 2,839,205 (2)
2017: 2,813,503 (2)

(1) https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm
(2) https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm


You had 504,000 more people die in the USA in 2020 than in 2019. Why was that if it wasn't COVID? What kind of mysterious disease is out there that we don't know about?

The WHO, CDC and Johns Hopkins probably understated the number of deaths that occurred in the USA in 2020 because of COVID. Their counts were around 335,000 to 350,000 dead. But that's much less than the 504,000. You can't attribute all of the 150,000+ difference just to changing demographics, between 2019 and 2020. There were people who died in 2020 whose deaths were attributed to things like heart disease, Alzheimer's and diabetes, who wouldn't have died in 2020 if they hadn't had COVID.
WHO and the CDC are a fucking JOKE
did more die because...yes
but the numbers are padded up
how much up, who knows, as the lie starts at the local level
in NY The lie starts at county. then to a area of, then to NYS, then to CDC
In my county in NYS, If ya died you are tested. if had or a faults positive. No mater what you really died of, you died of C19. It looks to play out the same in every county in NYS.

So how many other States lie and pass the lie to the CDC???
How big is that lie???
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Old 06-28-2021, 02:07 PM   #51
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WHO and the CDC are a fucking JOKE
did more die because...yes
but the numbers are padded up
how much up, who knows, as the lie starts at the local level
in NY The lie starts at county. then to a area of, then to NYS, then to CDC
In my county in NYS, If ya died you are tested. if had or a faults positive. No mater what you really died of, you died of C19. It looks to play out the same in every county in NYS.

So how many other States lie and pass the lie to the CDC???
How big is that lie???
It seems like it would be awfully tough to pad the total number of deaths from all causes. That number will equal the total number of death certificates issued for the year.

So why did those additional 504,000 people die in 2020, from all causes, over the number who died in 2019 if it wasn't COVID?
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Old 06-28-2021, 02:13 PM   #52
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It seems like it would be awfully tough to pad the total number of deaths from all causes. That number will equal the total number of death certificates issued for the year.

So why did those additional 504,000 people die in 2020, from all causes, over the number who died in 2019 if it wasn't COVID?
In NY if driving drunk and have a heart attack, rollover the car. if HAD C19 at that time, that is what ya died from FACT

So there is no way to know what ya asking as we do not know how big the lie is
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Old 06-28-2021, 02:21 PM   #53
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I wonder if those that die from the covid vaccines are counted as covid deaths? Anyone know?
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It seems like it would be awfully tough to pad the total number of deaths from all causes.
#1: You apparently are forgetting that Covid19 in 2020 was not the highest death toll number .... so if one wants to pad the numbers to gain funding for the business ... it's not difficult at all.

#2: You also apparently assume that medical/hospitalization reports are accurate and correct based on billing codes stuck on a form.

It is highly inappropriate (IMO) for social/political policy to be established and based on stats ESTIMATED from medical summary forms that are populated by clerks who have fewer qualifications that the physicians pretending to instruct them on their job. These idiots tossing estimates around don't even know how the offending substance was created!

Example: I have 2 masks sent to me by a "brilliant" mind who informed me that they were NEWLY designed and manufactured in late January 2021 (this year). They are still in the sealed envelope ... where they've been for about 4 months. They were on the market in JANUARY 2020 and were remakes from a mask manufactured 4-5 years ago by the same company. The bullshit being published these days ... is just that .... bullshit.
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I wonder if those that die from the covid vaccines are counted as covid deaths? Anyone know?
in my area of NYS yes, die of shot, its a C19 death

courts will not hear the case
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Old 06-28-2021, 02:37 PM   #56
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Tiny is asking where the plus 500,000 deaths in 2020 came from, when compared to previous years.
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#1: You apparently are forgetting that Covid19 in 2020 was not the highest death toll number .... so if one wants to pad the numbers to gain funding for the business ... it's not difficult at all.

#2: You also apparently assume that medical/hospitalization reports are accurate and correct based on billing codes stuck on a form.

It is highly inappropriate (IMO) for social/political policy to be established and based on stats ESTIMATED from medical summary forms that are populated by clerks who have fewer qualifications that the physicians pretending to instruct them on their job.
Again, it seems very unlikely that the total number of deaths in the USA for 2020 or 2019, which presumably match the total number of death certificates issued, was faked. The total deaths from all causes were 504,000 higher in 2020 than 2019.
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Tiny is asking where the plus 500,000 deaths in 2020 came from, when compared to previous years.
Exactly
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I wonder if those that die from the covid vaccines are counted as covid deaths? Anyone know?
I don't know, but I can make a pretty damn good guess.
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I'm honestly afraid of the virus and the vaccine.

So, I'm just stuck in my god damn room not sure wtf to do.
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