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Old 06-19-2021, 07:51 AM   #61
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So for about the 10th time I ask you-- what is being done in the "forensic audit" in Arizona that is different from other audits that will show up any voter fraud? The fact is you don't know.

A hand recount of the 2.1 million votes in Maricopa County is either complete or just about complete. This count, as was done in Georgia, will be matched against the tallies from the machines. The counts will match or come close to matching. Maybe a few votes will change. Voter registration will be verified to ensure only registered voters voted. This is SOP. What else you got?
Fake ballots. Rigged machines that were connected to the internet.
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Old 06-19-2021, 09:12 AM   #62
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Is it possible to start a thread JUST for Trump’s press releases? Every time he issues a statement, bambino posts it here, almost like ECCIE is a paid channel for Trumpism.

Bambino, you don’t add comment or show how a Trump press release is relevant to the discussion. You just cut and part it as if it was the word from God, which to you it is.

This aint Twitter, Buddy. if you can’t control yourself, at least have the decency to post all Trump’s official bullshit in one thread. You could entitle it — Don’t make the Trumpists Angry.

Hopefully management will agree. Give us a break already.

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Fake ballots. Rigged machines that were connected to the internet.
Lies.
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Old 06-19-2021, 10:45 AM   #64
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Fake ballots. Rigged machines that were connected to the internet.
Investigated and rebuffed.
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Old 06-19-2021, 10:58 AM   #65
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So for about the 10th time I ask you-- what is being done in the "forensic audit" in Arizona that is different from other audits that will show up any voter fraud?...
Couple off the top of my head:
  • Verifying paper ballot quality match versus ad-hoc printed, photo copied
  • Checking for machine filled out ballots, i.e. pre-printed
  • Check address matches and consistency
    • EX: 52 ballots for a single 2 bed, 1 bath home
  • Verifying ballots are actually ballots versus blank ballots
  • Verifying folds on mailed ballots
  • Checking dates of ballots, EX: Returned before being mailed etc.
  • Chain of custody
  • Auditing software, hardware and log files
  • Timing and alignment marks
  • Jovan Pulitzer, Doug Cobb
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Couple off the top of my head:
  • Verifying paper ballot quality match versus ad-hoc printed, photo copied
  • Checking for machine filled out ballots, i.e. pre-printed
  • Check address matches and consistency
    • EX: 52 ballots for a single 2 bed, 1 bath home
  • Verifying ballots are actually ballots versus blank ballots
  • Verifying folds on mailed ballots
  • Checking dates of ballots, EX: Returned before being mailed etc.
  • Chain of custody
  • Auditing software, hardware and log files
  • Timing and alignment marks
  • Jovan Pulitzer, Doug Cobb
Thank you for the input. Those criteria do not meet the dictionary definition of "forensic audit" but they are valid ways to check on fraudulent votes.

As I continue to say, the Ninja turtles are being paid to find something, anything, that will at the very least cast doubt on the Arizona results being 100% accurate and Biden won. They will not find votes changed by the machines. They will not find ballots being scanned multiple times. They will not find votes cast by unregistered voters. They will come up with a scenario that, if it happened, would change the results. No proof that it happened though.
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Thank you for the input. Those criteria do not meet the dictionary definition of "forensic audit" but they are valid ways to check on fraudulent votes.

As I continue to say, the Ninja turtles are being paid to find something, anything, that will at the very least cast doubt on the Arizona results being 100% accurate and Biden won. They will not find votes changed by the machines. They will not find ballots being scanned multiple times. They will not find votes cast by unregistered voters. They will come up with a scenario that, if it happened, would change the results. No proof that it happened though.
How the hell do you know.
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How the hell do YOU know any of the crazy conspiracy shit you post ad nauseum happened or is happening or will happen.

The burden of proof is on you since you link to any crazy social media post you can dig up that supports your whackadoodle theories. And you, nor your fellow Trump cultists have proved anything other than your ability to scour the internet for obscure “home remedies” for losers remorse.

Time to stop feeding the Trump troll.
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How the hell do you know.
Because what you and others are alleging would require hundreds of people working together to pull it off. I know poll workers. They are honest people trying to do an honest job and many are being accused, without proof, of rigging an election, a felony.

Every claim of voter fraud made by you and others on this forum has been rebutted. Some, like Dominion servers changing votes, are beyond ridiculous with absolutely no proof at all to support the allegations.

There is no proof. That I know.
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Yet they will argue that there is. And we’ll see it soon.

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Because what you and others are alleging would require hundreds of people working together to pull it off. I know poll workers. They are honest people trying to do an honest job and many are being accused, without proof, of rigging an election, a felony.

Every claim of voter fraud made by you and others on this forum has been rebutted. Some, like Dominion servers changing votes, are beyond ridiculous with absolutely no proof at all to support the allegations.

There is no proof. That I know.
most are honest, but then there are dishonest ones out there. most are not in on the scam. its has always been the fact that 1% ruin things for everyone

there were a few poll workers who have reported something unusual about these ballots that they received and worked on. a good number of them provided affidavits. one (with 20 years experience) got fired for reporting it.

how many is many being accused? from what ive seen, its just a few thats being accused.

this is more about what the election officials were doing. they apparently do not want their work questioned.
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You got a source for "your" definition of forensic audit? When I look up the word forensic, guess what pops up?

adjective
pertaining to, connected with, or used in courts of law

So I'm a thunk'n that looking for proof and facts to prosecute fraud is right up in that thar wheel house.

But then, what vexes me, yes - I'm terribly vexed - is if you are so correct in your confidence in the truth of your universe; Wouldn't the most ardent thing you and your Demonicrat fiends would want to do is to lead a marching band down the middle of Main Street foisting a giant banner up high in front of all manner of Lame Stream Media, fraudulent fact checkers and other pole dancers that reads:

By all means and manner
Come audit our glorious and flawless election

That way your glee would be abundant, gushing and overflowing in the streets when you and your Demonicrats turn out to be correct with film at the top and bottom of each and every hour for days and weeks on end.

Yet strangely enough, you and yours have followed a different path of stealth in the night, obfuscation, denial, court challenges and on and on and on.


Why is that - exactly?





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Thank you for the input. Those criteria do not meet the dictionary definition of "forensic audit" but they are valid ways to check on fraudulent votes.

As I continue to say, the Ninja turtles are being paid to find something, anything, that will at the very least cast doubt on the Arizona results being 100% accurate and Biden won. They will not find votes changed by the machines. They will not find ballots being scanned multiple times. They will not find votes cast by unregistered voters. They will come up with a scenario that, if it happened, would change the results. No proof that it happened though.
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most are honest, but then there are dishonest ones out there. most are not in on the scam. its has always been the fact that 1% ruin things for everyone

there were a few poll workers who have reported something unusual about these ballots that they received and worked on. a good number of them provided affidavits. one (with 20 years experience) got fired for reporting it.

how many is many being accused? from what ive seen, its just a few thats being accused.

this is more about what the election officials were doing. they apparently do not want their work questioned.
Trump and his supporters want recounts in at least 5 states. That means they believe fraud must have existed in the election in those states which means people committed that fraud. A 'few" could not have committed the level of fraud needed to change 10,000 votes in Arizona, 11,000 votes in Georgia, 20,000 votes in Wisconsin, 80,000 votes in Pennsylvania, and 155,000 votes in Michigan. That's a whole lot of fraud, all of which is unproven.
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You got a source for "your" definition of forensic audit? When I look up the word forensic, guess what pops up?

adjective
pertaining to, connected with, or used in courts of law

So I'm a thunk'n that looking for proof and facts to prosecute fraud is right up in that thar wheel house.

But then, what vexes me, yes - I'm terribly vexed - is if you are so correct in your confidence in the truth of your universe; Wouldn't the most ardent thing you and your Demonicrat fiends would want to do is to lead a marching band down the middle of Main Street foisting a giant banner up high in front of all manner of Lame Stream Media, fraudulent fact checkers and other pole dancers that reads:

By all means and manner
Come audit our glorious and flawless election

That way your glee would be abundant, gushing and overflowing in the streets when you and your Demonicrats turn out to be correct with film at the top and bottom of each and every hour for days and weeks on end.

Yet strangely enough, you and yours have followed a different path of stealth in the night, obfuscation, denial, court challenges and on and on and on.


Why is that - exactly?
What Is a Forensic Audit?

A forensic audit examines and evaluates a firm's or individual's financial records to derive evidence used in a court of law or legal proceeding. Forensic auditing is a specialization within accounting, and most large accounting firms have a forensic auditing department. Forensic audits require accounting and auditing procedures and expert knowledge about the legal framework of such an audit.


Forensic audits cover a wide range of investigative activities. A forensic audit is often conducted to prosecute a party for fraud, embezzlement, or other financial crimes. In the process of a forensic audit, the auditor may be called to serve as an expert witness during trial proceedings. Forensic audits could also involve situations that do not include financial fraud, such as disputes related to bankruptcy filings, business closures, and divorces.


https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/forensic-audit.asp

While a forensic audit may sound like something exciting you hear about on crime dramas like Law and Order or CSI, the truth is a little more mundane. A forensic audit is a process of reviewing a person’s or company’s financial statements to determine if they are accurate and lawful. Forensic accounting is most commonly associated with the IRS and tax audits, but it may also be commissioned by private companies to establish a complete view of a single entity’s finances.

https://thelawdictionary.org/article...orensic-audit/

Forensic Audit Definition

A forensic audit, defined also as forensic accounting, is the process of auditing a company’s records for the purpose of satisfying a legal investigation. Forensic accounting, though it does not always yield a crime, is generally for the purpose of bringing an embezzlement or fraud case to its end. Tools are often employed for this work, such as forensic audit mortgage software, checklists, and more.


https://strategiccfo.com/forensic-audit/

What is being done in Arizona does not meet the criteria of a "forensic audit".

Of oourse I deny the existence of fraud in the election since there is no proof of any. Go ahead with the audits. I am confident they will find none. Every claim of fraud made on this forum has been rebutted or is so lame that there is no need for rebuttal.
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