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Old 06-18-2021, 08:01 PM   #16
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THIS IS HUGE!…..THREE(3) British Airways pilots have DIED of the COVID vaccine in the past 7-days, and BA are now in crisis talks with the UK Government about whether or not their vaccinated pilots should be allowed to fly.

This presents a big problem because around 85% of all British Airways pilots have already been vaccinated.

MP3 telephone call is below.

H/t via Gab @BeachMilk
I'm pretty sure this is a lie.

Do you have a link to any credible evidence?
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:36 PM   #17
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All our vaccines are 100% safe and 100% effective. That's why they were granted emergency approval. Also, 0% side effects. And that's why like only 55% of the CDC personnel have received it.

SNICK!

Trust us. We're from the govt.
Yeah, our vaccines are fantastic. They are so great the State of Louisiana is holding a Vaccine Lottery for it's residents. All they have to do to qualify is get the Vaccine and they'll through your name in the hat to win a big cash prize of a Million Dollars. They have to bribe those people to get that shit. I wonder how many other States are following suit. Does this seem ok to people? I think it's fucking crazy.
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:54 PM   #18
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I'm pretty sure this is a lie.

Do you have a link to any credible evidence?
It is a lie. The original tweet that set this off has been censored from Instagram, Facebook and Twitter, but I listened to it before it was removed. The tip off is that the speaker said only 10% of British Airway pilots will be able to fly because of all the pilots who are dropping dead from the vaccine. That's obvious bull shit.

Here's what Reuters has to say,

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL2N2NZ1ZO
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Yeah, our vaccines are fantastic. They are so great the State of Louisiana is holding a Vaccine Lottery for it's residents. All they have to do to qualify is get the Vaccine and they'll through your name in the hat to win a big cash prize of a Million Dollars. They have to bribe those people to get that shit. I wonder how many other States are following suit. Does this seem ok to people? I think it's fucking crazy.
I think it's great.
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I think it's great.
I am not surprised.
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:59 PM   #21
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it's all about the variants .. so they can make this a yearly money maker for big pharma






speaking of variants ..


https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinas-la...rc=fp_deeplink



In China's Latest Outbreak, Doctors Say the Infected Get Sicker, Faster

Keith Bradsher
Sun, June 13, 2021, 10:43 AM·3 min read


As the delta variant of the coronavirus spreads in southeastern China, doctors say they are finding that the symptoms are different and more dangerous than those they saw when the initial version of the virus started spreading in late 2019 in the central city of Wuhan....
The money the pharma companies are going to make off of this is nothing compared to the trillions of dollars they'll save by getting the world back to normal. The Pfizer vaccine is "only" 80% effective against preventing infection with the Delta variant, but it's much more effective at preventing hospitalization and death.
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Old 06-18-2021, 09:51 PM   #22
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I'm pretty sure this is a lie.

Do you have a link to any credible evidence?

Seems as though you have learned your lesson. Before, it would have just been your last 4 words of that sentence.

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speaking of variants ..


https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinas-la...rc=fp_deeplink



In China's Latest Outbreak, Doctors Say the Infected Get Sicker, Faster

Keith Bradsher
Sun, June 13, 2021, 10:43 AM·3 min read


As the delta variant of the coronavirus spreads in southeastern China....

Authorities said that they had conducted 32 million tests in Guangzhou... China’s National Health Commission announced Friday that nine new cases had been found in Guangzhou the previous day.

This article originally appeared in The New York Times.

What the fuck? They did 32 million tests and only 9 a day are turning up positive? That doesn't sound like a crisis at all!

Heck, the County I live in (Allegheny) is fully reopened, even though we're still seeing around 20 new cases a day, down from 1,000 a day at the peak last December! That's one fucking US county with 1.2 million people.

I don't trust any Chinese covid data.
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The money the pharma companies are going to make off of this is nothing compared to the trillions of dollars they'll save by getting the world back to normal. The Pfizer vaccine is "only" 80% effective against preventing infection with the Delta variant, but it's much more effective at preventing hospitalization and death.
It started off at 95% effective now it's 80%. What's it going to be in the next six months?
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Old 06-19-2021, 01:40 AM   #25
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It started off at 95% effective now it's 80%. What's it going to be in the next six months?
Moderna reported 94% effective in clinical trials. No one was 95% effective. Where do you get your information from, National Enquirer?

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid...ter-six-months
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Old 06-19-2021, 05:58 AM   #26
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Yeah, our vaccines are fantastic. They are so great the State of Louisiana is holding a Vaccine Lottery for it's residents. All they have to do to qualify is get the Vaccine and they'll through your name in the hat to win a big cash prize of a Million Dollars. They have to bribe those people to get that shit. I wonder how many other States are following suit. Does this seem ok to people? I think it's fucking crazy.
United Airlines is offering a 5 prizes of free flights anywhere in the world they fly in any class of service for a year and 30 prizes of a roundtrip flight for two to anywhere in the world they fly in any class of service to those who are fully vaccinated and enter.

I love this bribery.
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Moderna reported 94% effective in clinical trials. No one was 95% effective. Where do you get your information from, National Enquirer?

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid...ter-six-months
Oh it's 94%, I was off by one percentage point and that became a problem. Now this vaccine is 80% according to one poster. What's it going to be by Christmas 65%?
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Old 06-19-2021, 06:24 AM   #28
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It started off at 95% effective now it's 80%. What's it going to be in the next six months?
The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is 88 percent effective against symptomatic COVID-19 caused by the Delta variant two weeks after the second dose, while the jab is 93 percent effective for cases caused by the Alpha variant.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...-delta-variant
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The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is 88 percent effective against symptomatic COVID-19 caused by the Delta variant two weeks after the second dose, while the jab is 93 percent effective for cases caused by the Alpha variant.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...-delta-variant
I got 80% from this study: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...358-1/fulltext

Here’s a summary:

https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/a...study-suggests

It’s 79% in the study but some of the posters here aren’t very good with numbers so I rounded up.

79% is better than many people thought we’d have back a year ago. We were willing to accept any vaccine that was over 50% effective. If every unvaccinated individual got the Pfizer vaccine tomorrow we’d probably wipe COVID from the face of the earth. Unfortunately that can’t happen, because there’s not enough of the vaccine and there are a lot of scaredy cats out there.

Levianon should note that the Pfizer vaccine is more than 79% effective in preventing hospitalization. The Scottish study referenced above said they didn’t know how much more effective because they didn’t have enough data. The Scottish researchers also said the Delta variant was about 2X likelier to send people to the hospital.

The study assumed people were fully vaccinated only if 14 days had passed since their second shot. If they’d assumed 28 days the effectiveness would have been higher than 79%. Also Pfizer and others are working on booster shots and new vaccines that will be more effective against variants. With mRNA technology they can develop the boosters reasonably quickly
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United Airlines is offering a 5 prizes of free flights anywhere in the world they fly in any class of service for a year and 30 prizes of a roundtrip flight for two to anywhere in the world they fly in any class of service to those who are fully vaccinated and enter.

I love this bribery.
It's amazing isn't it? I usually fly United or American. I am healthy as a horse and normally the only thing they offer me is a soft drink. So now any old decrepit fuck can get all kinds of perks as long as he has an experimental vaccine searing through his veins. Put all the unvaccinated to the back of the plane and give them a paper cup with water.
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